Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

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2 days? What were they smoking in the Kremlin?

That's what misinformation does to you. If you really don't have to take on resisting forces, an invasion of Kiyv from Belarus could follow this timeline:
- have a nice breakfast
- get into your tank, drive for a few hours
- stop for a little lunch picnic just outside the city
- drive into the city, arrest the Nazi president, let yourself be celebrated and given flowers by the people
- celebrate, get drunk and sleep
- on the next morning make sure you installed a nice new president and not for example put a horse into office
- drive back. Will take the whole day instead of a half as you are still drunk after your celebrations.
 

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2 days? What were they smoking in the Kremlin?

Seems a bit of a ridiculous statement given the forces that went in during the first two days. There's no way they'd have expected to progress that distance and take Kyiv.

Obviously a case of talking up their failures.
 

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Seems a bit of a ridiculous statement given the forces that went in during the first two days. There's no way they'd have expected to progress that distance and take Kyiv.

Obviously a case of talking up their failures.
The fact that they threw airborne troops at the Gostomel airport near Kyiv on day 2 tells otherwise. They ended up being obliterated because their convoy stalled and never backed them up.
 

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Seems a bit of a ridiculous statement given the forces that went in during the first two days. There's no way they'd have expected to progress that distance and take Kyiv.

Obviously a case of talking up their failures.
Lone gendarmerie units from the Rosgvardiya literally drove from Belarus to the near centre of Kyiv on the day of invasion. It was an absolute shit show, very terrifying with the shock and awe tactics in the first few hours, but quickly very baffling.
 

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I don't believe for a second that the Russian casualty numbers are even half as high as claimed.
The U.S. military estimated that between 5,000 and 6,000 Russian soldiers have been killed. That was 3 days ago. European intelligence estimates give higher figures.

Even if we assume only 5,000 dead now (3 days after the above estimate), that likely means around 3 times that number wounded, captured, surrendered or deserted. That's 20,000 out of action one way or another.

In another month ... you do the maths.
 

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Could somebody who speaks Russian confirm that this translation is correct?

It appears to be a Russian politician suggesting that Russia launches a nuclear strike in the Nevada desert to send a warning to the USA, but I'm not sure if the wording of the caption is accurate. Thanks in advance

@MoskvaRed @harms

 

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Could somebody who speaks Russian confirm that this translation is correct?

It appears to be a Russian politician suggesting that Russia launches a nuclear strike in the Nevada desert to send a warning to the USA, but I'm not sure if the wording of the caption is accurate. Thanks in advance

@MoskvaRed @harms

We've seen many dumb ideas coming from Russia but this takes the cake mushroom.
 

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Could somebody who speaks Russian confirm that this translation is correct?

It appears to be a Russian politician suggesting that Russia launches a nuclear strike in the Nevada desert to send a warning to the USA, but I'm not sure if the wording of the caption is accurate. Thanks in advance

@MoskvaRed @harms

The translation is accurate enough but from what I gathered, he's actually saying it doesn't need to be a nuclear warhead and he's basically saying we'll scare the Americans because the risk of 10k casualties will seem like 10m to the US population. I personally don't follow the logic, it feels like something like logic the Japanese devised for Pearl Harbour.

The guy is obviously off his rocker since he doesn't even talk about Russia but about the USSR. Small dick mentality and all that.

EDIT: I guess he does say it might be nuclear because he says that's where Americans test nuclear weapons, so there's an implication.
 

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The translation is accurate enough but from what I gathered, he's actually saying it doesn't need to be a nuclear warhead and he's basically saying we'll scare the Americans because the risk of 10k casualties will seem like 10m to the US population. I personally don't follow the logic, it feels like something like logic the Japanese devised for Pearl Harbour.

The guy is obviously off his rocker since he doesn't even talk about Russia but about the USSR. Small dick mentality and all that.

EDIT: I guess he does say it might be nuclear because he says that's where Americans test nuclear weapons, so there's an implication.
Yeah, according to the translation, first he says a nuclear strike, then he says we don't even need to use a nuclear warhead on the rocket, then he says, maybe just a little nuclear strike on the Nevada test range.

I'm sure America won't mind at all.
 

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Yeah, according to the translation, first he says a nuclear strike, then he says we don't even need to use a nuclear warhead on the rocket, then he says, maybe just a little nuclear strike on the Nevada test range.

I'm sure America won't mind at all.
Maybe they should call up India, they seem to have developed expertise in these types of strikes.
 

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The translation is accurate enough but from what I gathered, he's actually saying it doesn't need to be a nuclear warhead and he's basically saying we'll scare the Americans because the risk of 10k casualties will seem like 10m to the US population. I personally don't follow the logic, it feels like something like logic the Japanese devised for Pearl Harbour.

The guy is obviously off his rocker since he doesn't even talk about Russia but about the USSR. Small dick mentality and all that.

EDIT: I guess he does say it might be nuclear because he says that's where Americans test nuclear weapons, so there's an implication.
 

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I did wonder about this. Perhaps someone will come up with a website where Ukrainians who want to come to the UK (I do genuinely believe by the way that most wouldn't) can register to be linked with those who have a spare room?
 

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Your understanding of it is nonsense. Have you read article 5?
I haven't but I think it says something like "If a Russian farts near to a NATO country then we will immediately instigate WW3 in case Dal thinks Article 5 is nonsense".

I may be paraphrasing.
 

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Was thinking of this. If these Russian heads have family in the UK, France etc, surely that in itself would prevent nuclear war?
Seems an omission what a crooked farce they are. Zombify a nation and send them to die, but their own blood can live life to its fullest
 

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Was thinking of this. If these Russian heads have family in the UK, France etc, surely that in itself would prevent nuclear war?
This is why I reckon he won't even get close to pushing that button well unless all of this top aids have no family and have dedicated their lives to Putin.
 

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Was thinking of this. If these Russian heads have family in the UK, France etc, surely that in itself would prevent nuclear war?
Seems an omission what a crooked farce they are. Zombify a nation and send them to die, but their own blood can live life to its fullest
Sergei Lavrov, the warhawk foreign minister also has a daughter who lives in the United States.

The thing is, in the event of nuclear war, it'll be no safer in Russia than in the USA. Very rural areas in both nations - especially agricultural communities in Russia; east of the Urals and in Siberia will likely be safe from the initial nuclear exchanges and fireballs. But damage to infrastructure and disconnection from the outside world, as well as fallout and potentially global warming will eventually take their toll on most people.
 

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Could somebody who speaks Russian confirm that this translation is correct?

It appears to be a Russian politician suggesting that Russia launches a nuclear strike in the Nevada desert to send a warning to the USA, but I'm not sure if the wording of the caption is accurate. Thanks in advance

@MoskvaRed @harms

It is correct.
 

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The longer this carries on the higher the risk it spirals out of control with other countries being invovled in war. I wonder what Russia will do if sweden and finland joins nato with all the threats Russia been making toward those 2.
 

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The longer this carries on the higher the risk it spirals out of control with other countries being invovled in war. I wonder what Russia will do if sweden and finland joins nato with all the threats Russia been making toward those 2.
They can't really do much given 3/4 of their military is in Ukraine with bits and pieces of the rest spread around Russia, Armenia, and Syria. Finland and Sweden should join now while Russia can't do anything about it. Once they're in NATO, Russia can just complain.
 

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They can't really do much given 3/4 of their military is in Ukraine with bits and pieces of the rest spread around Russia, Armenia, and Syria. Finland and Sweden should join now while Russia can't do anything about it. Once they're in NATO, Russia can just complain.
Sweden I am sure can stop a similar invasion on its track, they are armed to the teeth and have superb own defense sector. NATO membership will be needed for the deterrent of course.