nickm
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1) Where is it stated by Putin that the pipeline / water issues are a principal cause of the war?There's plenty of propoganda, willful ignorance and hypocricy in this article and in much of the western media. This is a war primary about control of oil and gas in the black sea and the Ukrainian policy to starve the disputed region of Crimea 85% of it's water resources by blocking the North Crimean Canal. Much like the wars in Iraq, Afganistan, Libya and Syria it's about natural resources. So do American commentators mention this key motivation for war? No. Why not? Because if they admit the war is over natural resources it then makes them look like massive hypocrits. If they admit Zelenski is starving Crimea of water it adds some balance and a key negotiating factor to the reporting. Did you know that Ukraine charges Russian pipelines tarrifs to send it's gas to Western Europe? That would of been an area of discussion too. So instead of discussing these issues let's pretend Putin is instead a madman who wants to re-unite all of the Soviet empire. It's a nonsense. And even if Putin was stating Russia owned half of Ukraine, which he hasn't, then guess what? The American military industrial complex claims it owns half of Syria where the US are arming ISIS to do it's bidding. Putin's objective will be to re-open the canal and take parts of south east Ukraine, such as Donbas which has a large number Russian speratists and more importantly natural resources.
I'm not defending Putin because this war is a disgusting example of ethnic cleansing and he continually murders and massacres to preserve his own interests. But there are reasons for this war that aren't mentioned and Zelenski is not an honest actor. If Zelenski wanted to avoid war he could have at least re-opened the canal, which would have been a demand for peace. But he didn't because he's using it as way to fight for the natural resources of the black sea. The first thing the Russians did when invading was re-open the canal.
That's not to mention the Russian's were in the past promised that Nato forces would not expand beyond Germany and now they're aiming to expand right up to the Russian border.
2) What are Ukraine's legal obligations to supply water to an areas taken from them and under Russian control?
3) What is illegal or wrong about Ukraine charging Russia for using its territory to transport gas?
4) Where has the American "military industrial complex" stated it owns half of Syria and who has stated it?
5) Where is the treaty agreement that NATO would not expand beyond Germany?
6) If Putin had invaded in a less murdery / ethnic cleansing way, would you defend that?
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