Spark
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Crimea is Ukraine, currently occupied by Russia. Of course it gets cut off, what do you think would happen if the same happened anywhere else, including in Russia?There's plenty of propoganda, willful ignorance and hypocricy in this article and in much of the western media. This is a war primary about control of oil and gas in the black sea and the Ukrainian policy to starve the disputed region of Crimea 85% of it's water resources by blocking the North Crimean Canal. Much like the wars in Iraq, Afganistan, Libya and Syria it's about natural resources. So do American commentators mention this key motivation for war? No. Why not? Because if they admit the war is over natural resources it then makes them look like massive hypocrits. If they admit Zelenski is starving Crimea of water it adds some balance and a key negotiating factor to the reporting. Did you know that Ukraine charges Russian pipelines tarrifs to send it's gas to Western Europe? That would of been an area of discussion too. So instead of discussing these issues let's pretend Putin is instead a madman who wants to re-unite all of the Soviet empire. It's a nonsense. And even if Putin was stating Russia owned half of Ukraine, which he hasn't, then guess what? The American military industrial complex claims it owns half of Syria where the US are arming ISIS to do it's bidding. Putin's objective will be to re-open the canal and take parts of south east Ukraine, such as Donbas which has a large number Russian speratists and more importantly natural resources.
I'm not defending Putin because this war is a disgusting example of ethnic cleansing and he continually murders and massacres to preserve his own interests. But there are reasons for this war that aren't mentioned and Zelenski is not an honest actor. If Zelenski wanted to avoid war he could have at least re-opened the canal, which would have been a demand for peace. But he didn't because he's using it as way to fight for the natural resources of the black sea. The first thing the Russians did when invading was re-open the canal.
That's not to mention the Russian's were in the past promised that Nato forces would not expand beyond Germany and now they're aiming to expand right up to the Russian border.
Ukraine is resource rich and that’s a massive motivation for Russia to annex the eastern regions, but there’s no hypocrisy in saying the key motivation for the Russians is to destroy the Ukrainian state because that’s literally what Putin has said. The only consistently dishonest actors have been the Russians. The sheer volume of lies that have come from them is astonishing and has served to simply cut them off from the main international stage. Even the Chinese are struggling to overtly support them, as much as they wish they could.
The rest of your post about Syria, “American military industrial complex”, America arming ISIS (what the feck), etc is just irrelevant and clutching at Kremlin sponsored straws to somehow rationalise why Russia is doing what its doing. End of the day, they’re wrong and have fecked it.