As an interim, he is not ruthless enough
Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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The worst managerial tenure I’ve witnessed. Not managing a single good game is absolutely shambolic. Ole definitely wasn’t good enough to challenge the top two teams and was rightly sacked, but he could quite possibly fight it out for top four better than this.
Yet weirdly those players can and have played a more pressing game for their international teams and previous clubs.
Of course there’s bigger issues at the club. That’s been clear to most for much longer than this season. But that doesn’t excuse the simple fact that he hasn’t been a good appointment. At all.
Had genuinely high hopes for him. I know a lot is on the players but he really couldn’t have done much worse, to be honest.
On another hand, the players would probably continue to make the same stupid mistakes. Mou was a good manager, LVG in his time, we got nothing good out of them.
It's no coincidence at this point that everyone that comes to the club turns to absolute shit.
The same old shite has been happening here under numerous managers. The real problem lies with the dross out on the pitch, it’s a cop out to just pin this all on one man. It’s exactly what these shower of bastards wearing the shirt are hoping for.
It's not a concept and it's not hard to understand. Also, it is not clear why interimness was core to the next managerial move. The guy's a deputy head teacher. Couldn't run a bureau de change let alone a two bit peep show in Margate.
He is most definitely the worst manager we've had post-Fergie. Ole was absolutely awful but he was still better than this fraud.
What ? When ? Please enlighten me with some example.
This team is by far the least likeable bunch we've ever had. Cannot think of a single player other than Sancho that doesn't get on my nerves. To top it off, we have two suspected domestic abusers, an alleged drunk who fights people in Greece as our captain, a bunch of primadonnas that leak information all over the media everytime they don't play and bunch of unprofessional twats that don't even bother showing up for games whenever they feel like it (Martial, Cavani, Lingard). A terribly, terribly constructed group of players that deserve nothing from the fans.
Bingo which is probably the most important trait for an interim manager coming in mid season looking to give a team a boost. Judging from the downward spiral of form and confidence of almost the entire squad during his time here his man management must be shocking. Ronaldo scored 15 in 18-19 games pre Ralf and 3 since Ralf took over in 20+ games.
For many, yes, but what about Jadon, VDB, Bruno... I agree it's not just the manager. Everything regarding the club has been toxic for some time.
Ole wasn't suitable for the position, but RR...
Best case scenario, we'll need at least 2-3 years in order to become a contender
Ten Hag will have to do perform a little miracle here
We got schooled by City under Ralf, couldn't beat Watford at home and still have another battering by Liverpool to come. It has achieved nothing.
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I have already done this, not to any managers, but inside the club,” said Rangnick. “I have told them how I see the current squad and what needs to happen in my opinion. I spoke regularly with board members and they know what I think needs to happen in the summer. If he [the next manager] is interested and willing to speak about that and interested in my opinion I will see what happens.
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I have already done this, not to any managers, but inside the club,” said Rangnick. “I have told them how I see the current squad and what needs to happen in my opinion. I spoke regularly with board members and they know what I think needs to happen in the summer. If he [the next manager] is interested and willing to speak about that and interested in my opinion I will see what happens.
Look at Al l the leaks. “No direction” under Ole. Ralf “demands too much” on the training pitch.
Players don’t give a flying feck. Wrong players signed, wrong players kept - all down to weak previous management.
Ralf was never going to be the one to save us. But his damning reports back will hopefully mean slinging a few of these absolutely pricks out the door.
Sure Ralf picked a poor team, but in all honesty he has feck all to work with, players don’t care.
Players don’t give a flying feck. Wrong players signed, wrong players kept - all down to weak previous management.
Ralf was never going to be the one to save us. But his damning reports back will hopefully mean slinging a few of these absolutely pricks out the door.
Sure Ralf picked a poor team, but in all honesty he has feck all to work with, players don’t care.
Who’s saying he has been?
The excuses for this guy are incredible. The same previous manager with these bunch of donkeys got us finishing 2nd and 3rd last two seasons. We were shit this season and he deservedly got the sack and Rangnick has been utterly dogshite as well.
People keep deluding themselves that just because he's calling out players in public he's the solution to our problems going forward. I could tell you there are huge problems, doesn't make me good enough to be our manager. He's not an elite manager, never has been and that can be seen by the clubs he's managed. He's proven himself to be a great DoF but isn't a elite manager by any metric.
Yes the players are a massive issue, yes Ole deservedly got the sack this season after 2 decent seasons and yes Ralf is a poor manager. All these facts are true, one doesn't necessarily need to preclude the other as people on here are desperate to make it appear.
Agree with the bold part. Amazing how we forget how serious some of our bad spells were under him and yet we bounced back and some times spectacularly so. He had the ability to bounce back and we needed that this season. We made a mistake sacking him mid season with RR if we hoped for top 4. Ole was not good enough but he was the best chance to get top 4. As strange as it might sound.
That's not the point. An interim is only meant to bridge the time until the next manager arrives, and after the previous manager had to be sacked. I understand all this is new to you guys, but this is how it goes.
Disappointed in him. If he really wanted to go high pressure/octane and coach it well surely he could just pick the ones who can do it and we'd see the results. Instead it's just the same Ole ball of nothing.
But given his pedigree is in club building we should keep him in that capacity.
But given his pedigree is in club building we should keep him in that capacity.
Solskjaer absolutely had to go, but I truly don’t think we’d be any worse off points wise if he’d have stayed. Rangnick has been an absolute disaster.
We actually won some trophies under them. Both of them got sacked rightly so did Ole at the end.
And, how many players under them are playing in the first eleven now?
Ralf is more there to asses the rot. I do think we could've gone on better had we given Carrick the job until the end but we have to face the steaming pile one day. Kicking the can down the road is no good, especially if Pep and Klopp stay. We won't be going anywhere with how we operate and need to reset in everything and work up from a lower point to play football properly.
We need to get in ten Hag, let him cut loose all the rubbish no mater who it is or what they cost and help find him the right players over 2-3 seasons much like Klopp and Pep did to pretty much change most of the squad to fit a play style. We should be making stars like we used to and buying the odd big addition.
We need to get in ten Hag, let him cut loose all the rubbish no mater who it is or what they cost and help find him the right players over 2-3 seasons much like Klopp and Pep did to pretty much change most of the squad to fit a play style. We should be making stars like we used to and buying the odd big addition.
Why are people are going on about Ole if Ralf isn't doing well. There were so many options to pick from for interim in the first place to save this season
I was happy picking Ralf, but my word his BIGGEST fault is still picking the same trash that Ole did and playing a similar style. I genuinely thought he'd be ruthless and different. In hindsight, we should have picked an interim who was more ruthless.
I was happy picking Ralf, but my word his BIGGEST fault is still picking the same trash that Ole did and playing a similar style. I genuinely thought he'd be ruthless and different. In hindsight, we should have picked an interim who was more ruthless.
He's on a 18 month contract at Spurs for one.
At any given time, we need the best available manager to coach the players we have at this club. Nothing more no less. Conte would've been the one for the rest of this season after the Ole shitshow
Mate it's the players. We had to fight off serious interest from Spurs and AC Milan to get him. Every club he touches turns into gold.
There's been no change, Ralf plays exactly the same formation as Ole, and selects players regardless of form. Painful to watch
The team was terminal before he came on board. I don’t blame him for where we are but I also think it’s clear he’s not the man for the job either. Top 4 is 100% gone now so it would be good if he blooded some young players in.
Any player intending to leave in the summer should just be dropped now. Why give Pogba game time in dead rubbers when it could be some experience for Hannibal.
Any player intending to leave in the summer should just be dropped now. Why give Pogba game time in dead rubbers when it could be some experience for Hannibal.
No, because conte would have fecked off after a short time and wed need a rebuild again.
Conte was never the play, Id take this and ETH every single time.
If you read my other post I agree Ralf also has been utter shite. But it is not 100% his fault alone that we played like dogshite. Ole caused this mess with his amazing cultural reboot and that has set us back years with this collection of players. Whoever the next manager is he needs to clean Oles's garbage
In my experience, a classic consultant - comes in under much fanfare, talks big and acts as if they're implementing something magical...before walking off in the sunset with a sackful of cash having produced feck all.
Not defending RR. He‘s not the only problem. The players mentality and commitment to the job is the major problem with our current position. They are all stealing a living. It will take a miracle for ETH to be appointed manager.For many, yes, but what about Jadon, VDB, Bruno... I agree it's not just the manager. Everything regarding the club has been toxic for some time.
Ole wasn't suitable for the position, but RR...
Best case scenario, we'll need at least 2-3 years in order to become a contender
Ten Hag will have to do perform a little miracle here
Not really. This squad has fecked over every manager its had and we have very credible journalists saying they arent bothering. Thats quite special in that I cant draw parallels to other clubs facing the same issue, with MULTIPLE managers.
There were some good spells of performance under him. The last couple of matches have been abject though. I don't think it's any coincidence that it comes at the same time as a new manager is all but confirmed. It's simply the 'supply teacher' effect alongside a bunch of players who have been mentally weak for a long time.
It is funny that people thought him being blunt was a good thing. It screams to me that he just does not have enough quality in that sense.
I mean how many people actually work in real life and think yeah we would want that manager who kept telling in public that he had no idea what I do? And, he had no idea how to fix it himself either.
He is dogshit.
Where's this idea that we'd have bounced back under Ole come from? We were utter trash and even then still on a downward trajectory.
The players are awful cowards. Stopputting 2 keepers on the bench and give some kids run outs. Mata ffs give me a fecking break
I've said this before and I'll say it again. He was managing in fecking Russia for a reason.
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