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Ole really fecked us up. Poor transfers, shit management, allowed player power, did not do anything about player fitness.
Ole was the effect, not the causeIf you can’t see the damage that Solskjaer has caused then there is no point in discussing this with you.
No, it's because we have a player on our hand that is absolute shit in every big or critical game and is only good against midtable clubs and when he gets ton of penalties to score. Ole left us with a key player that has these problems - which there were actually signs of it before this season anyway -.So Bruno was the best player in the league for the first season and a half after Ole signed him, but now his current run of crap form is all on Ole too
Actually is the Anti Ole fanboys that brought this back up. But yes. Close this fecking thread. There's no point to it anymore.Close this thread. Oles crazy fanbois are back and rewriting history
The club has been a mess for 9 years not just 3. Ole didn't cause this mess. He came into a mess if people are prepared to put their agendas aside for a second and think back.Ole really fecked us up. Poor transfers, shit management, allowed player power, did not do anything about player fitness.
Well, same can be applied for Ralf then, whom you have been slaughtering for some time now.The club has been a mess for 9 years not just 3. Ole didn't cause this mess. He came into a mess if people are prepared to put their agendas aside for a second and think back.
This is all down to the board and owners.
He’s contributed big time to the mess. Spending that much money on average players, making Maguire captain, not getting in better coaches, allowing players to do whatever the feck they want.The club has been a mess for 9 years not just 3. Ole didn't cause this mess. He came into a mess if people are prepared to put their agendas aside for a second and think back.
This is all down to the board and owners.
He came in to a mess and created more mess.The club has been a mess for 9 years not just 3. Ole didn't cause this mess. He came into a mess if people are prepared to put their agendas aside for a second and think back.
This is all down to the board and owners.
He prolonged it though. He came into a mess & left it a mess, so what did he do exactly?The club has been a mess for 9 years not just 3. Ole didn't cause this mess. He came into a mess if people are prepared to put their agendas aside for a second and think back.
This is all down to the board and owners.
Yep, it was bumped for no good reason at all.Actually is the Anti Ole fanboys that brought this back up.
"Ole inners", you just have to laugh, like it's some sort of political or culture war. He's already sacked, there's nobody here even close to suggesting they want him here instead of Ten Hag.Ole inners resorting to jokes to try and defend the attitude/disposition of the team he left behind, the £130 million defensive pairing, the captain, the lack of any fitness or tactical discipline in the squad.
He came second once because Klopp was having an off cycle. He lost so many important games to inferior teams. He achieved nothing.
Bleating on about his second place finish doesn’t defend or excuse the damage he has done. He has contributed massively to the club’s current situation and his appointment and lengthy reign wouldn’t have happened at any other big club.
His current run of crap form started under Ole, as with most of our players’ bad form ie. Rashford, Maguire, Shaw etc…So Bruno was the best player in the league for the first season and a half after Ole signed him, but now his current run of crap form is all on Ole too
I agree. I don't blame Ralf for the mess we find ourselves in even if I don't think he's a good manager either. Both can be true you know.Well, same can be applied for Ralf then, whom you have been slaughtering for some time now.
Of course he wasn't. Only deluded United fans thought that.So Bruno was the best player in the league for the first season and a half after Ole signed him, but now his current run of crap form is all on Ole too
Exactly. He was still playing rubbish quite regularly but was actually putting up good numbers. Also, he scored a mental amount of penos.Of course he wasn't. Only deluded United fans thought that.
No, but unfortunately there are still people that feel the need to defend their staunch support of him and it’s blinding them to the damage he caused.Yep, it was bumped for no good reason at all.
"Ole inners", you just have to laugh, like it's some sort of political or culture war. He's already sacked, there's nobody here even close to suggesting they want him here instead of Ten Hag.
no arguments.Solskjaer has probably done more damage to this club than any other manager in the last 40 years.
One of them just tried an industrial revolution joke.Ole inners resorting to jokes to try and defend the attitude/disposition of the team he left behind, the £130 million defensive pairing, the captain, the lack of any fitness or tactical discipline in the squad.
He came second once because Klopp was having an off cycle. He lost so many important games to inferior teams. He achieved nothing.
Bleating on about his second place finish doesn’t defend or excuse the damage he has done. He has contributed massively to the club’s current situation and his appointment and lengthy reign wouldn’t have happened at any other big club.
Some just can't admit they were wrong about Ole; so they keep looking for very meek rhetorics to try vindicate his tenure. I've seen some gems lately; such as saying losing to Villarreal was actually ok, because a shite Bayern shite were beaten by them. I mean....ok.No, but unfortunately there are still people that feel the need to defend their staunch support of him and it’s blinding them to the damage he caused.
It was a massive mistake and a club like United can’t be allowed to repeat it. Lessons need to be learned. He wasn’t just a victim of circumstance. He made terrible decisions and introduced a horrible mentality that the club could be lumbered with for years.
i see people say this all the time... but is ole critics that bump these threads constantly because they feel the need to revisit their view that 'any competent coach' would improve the team with a fresh batch of conspiracies to explain why we have gotten much worse post oleClose this thread. Oles crazy fanbois are back and rewriting history
He's spot on tbf. The pro-Ole fawning has started again recently because Ralf has been wank and Villarreal knocked Bayern out of the CLi see people say this all the time... but is ole critics that bump these threads constantly because they feel the need to revisit their view that 'any competent coach' would improve the team with a fresh batch of conspiracies to explain why we have gotten much worse post ole
but its not typically who bumps these threads. it is usually in response to the bumpers, who change their narrative daily and get closer and closer to conspiracy the longer it goes on. It really is laughable, and has been for months. all of these threads should be shut and maybe we can discuss ralfs performance honestly 6 months after ole has left the clubHe's spot on tbf. The pro-Ole fawning has started again recently because Ralf has been wank and Villarreal knocked Bayern out of the CL
Nah, there's two groups very much at play here and always has been. Ole, like Jose, has built up this weird cult. I find it beyond odd that anyone would fanboy over any post-Fergie appointment. It's been a truly hideous time for the club.but its not typically who bumps these threads. it is usually in response to the bumpers, who change their narrative daily and get closer and closer to conspiracy the longer it goes on. It really is laughable, and has been for months. all of these threads should be shut and maybe we can discuss ralfs performance honestly 6 months after ole has left the club
Is this Ole cult saying he shouldn’t have been sacked?Nah, there's two groups very much at play here and always has been. Ole, like Jose, has built up this weird cult. I find it beyond odd that anyone would fanboy over any post-Fergie appointment. It's been a truly hideous time for the club.
The ones that will do anything to paint his tenure as some sort of success or, feel the need to fanatically defend any critique. Odd people.Is this Ole cult saying he shouldn’t have been sacked?
I haven’t seen anyone saying he was a success or that he shouldn’t have been sacked. However, I do see a lot of people pointing the finger solely at him and ignoring the quite clearly incompetent management we have in place right now.The ones that will do anything to paint his tenure as some sort of success or, feel the need to fanatically defend any critique. Odd people.
I see a-lot of people absolving him of a hell of a lot of the blame, and trying to blame other factors. I also see a-lot of people trying to paint his tenure as some sort of semi-success and they just keep repeating EL Final, semi finals, second place etc.I haven’t seen anyone saying he was a success or that he shouldn’t have been sacked. However, I do see a lot of people pointing the finger solely at him and ignoring the quite clearly incompetent management we have in place right now.
Its not a conspiracy. Ralf is doing a terrible firefighting job, but we have a large portion of supporters who refuse to accept that it was Ole who stoked the flames.but its not typically who bumps these threads. it is usually in response to the bumpers, who change their narrative daily and get closer and closer to conspiracy the longer it goes on. It really is laughable, and has been for months. all of these threads should be shut and maybe we can discuss ralfs performance honestly 6 months after ole has left the club
YeahMust say, some putting JM folk to shame, take a bow /respect, thought that wouldnt be possible.
In fairness, EL Final, semi final and second place look fecking rosy right now. But yes, it’s all been one long shit show since the moment Fergie retired. It’s just odd that this guy, probably the worst of the lot, is seen as doing us some sort of favour in pulling us further into the abyss.I see a-lot of people absolving him of a hell of a lot of the blame, and trying to blame other factors. I also see a-lot of people trying to paint his tenure as some sort of semi-success and they just keep repeating EL Final, semi finals, second place etc.
Each to their own, but my verdict is that every single post-Fergie appointment was a fecking disaster. Anyone who feels the need to fanboy over any particular appointee, is just really arguing over who was the least shite.
Ole is gone 6 months.Its not a conspiracy. Ralf is doing a terrible firefighting job, but we have a large portion of supporters who refuse to accept that it was Ole who stoked the flames.
We haven’t gotten any worse, it was Ole who guided us to this point.
Everybody makes mistakes in predictions and opinions on football. There should be no pride involved in just backing down and admitting when we are wrong about something. There were times when I really wanted to believe.
Its one thing trying to convince the forum about what he was building and that it was all coming together (even when it was done in such a condescending way), but it’s quite another to see how he has left us and still defend his time in charge.
Thats the only laughable part, and it’s incredibly frustrating to read. He was a disaster and the proof is overwhelming.
Rangnick has been dire - we can say it's not his fault, it's Ole's fault. We can then say it's not Ole's fault, it was Jose's fault. And of course, it wasn't Jose's fault but LVG's, and he can blame David Moyes.In fairness, EL Final, semi final and second place look fecking rosy right now. But yes, it’s all been one long shit show since the moment Fergie retired. It’s just odd that this guy, probably the worst of the lot, is seen as doing us some sort of favour in pulling us further into the abyss.
Well; EL win, LC win, best points total finish post-Fergie, sounds rosier. But we all know Jose's tenure was an absolute shit-show, for the most part. I don't think any of our post-Fergie appointments deserve any respect for the jobs they done, as they all massively failed. I also don't think any deserve to have their tenures painted as any sort of success, as none were remotely successful.In fairness, EL Final, semi final and second place look fecking rosy right now. But yes, it’s all been one long shit show since the moment Fergie retired. It’s just odd that this guy, probably the worst of the lot, is seen as doing us some sort of favour in pulling us further into the abyss.