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Amber Heard vs Johnny Depp | Depp wins on all 3 counts
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I should you evidence from the courtroom. Evidence of Depp headbutting her. But yeah I guess if I'm not their maid...
Been watching a few clips, her acting performance is dreadful to the point of entertainment. Like a bad soap
Then why submit photos and claim them to be something they're not? Or are you saying she's willing to break the law on perjury but not editing metadata? (which isn't even illegal).
The literal standard that the judge needs to meet in that case is the balance of probability. If the judge decides that it's 50.01% likely to have happened in his opinion, then you get the verdict that we got. You need to understand that before you start making statements that don't relate to what actually happened.
In 12 counts of what was stated, the judge believed it was at least 50.01% likely to have happened than not happened. That's all. You do not understand what substantially true means in this context.
Amber Heard only needs to prove Depp hit her once and Judge will dismiss the case.
The fact that she can't tells me all I need to know. The irony is Depp is the one with real evidence that Heard hit him.
Anyway I don't think Johnny Depp will win in the court. It's very hard to prove someone deliberately "defamed" him when his carrier was on downward trajectory long before 2018 but "winning" probably isn't his main goal here, the court of public opinion matters more in this case.
The fact that she can't tells me all I need to know. The irony is Depp is the one with real evidence that Heard hit him.
Anyway I don't think Johnny Depp will win in the court. It's very hard to prove someone deliberately "defamed" him when his carrier was on downward trajectory long before 2018 but "winning" probably isn't his main goal here, the court of public opinion matters more in this case.
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I agree Depp isn't really looking to win the case here but instead wants to prove his point that he is not what he had been made out to be by Amber and it's pretty obvious he has achieved that.
Amber may win the case but she's lost her reputation and career if she had a good career I honestly don't think I've seen her in anything.
I've heard this is the argument, which obviously makes Depp chance of winning in court very slim, assuming if he had only proven to hit her once, even though she has hit him more than 10 times or so and him being victim of most...
AndI wonder what if it is proven that Amber to be "main aggressor" of this whole domestic abuse? Does it change anything in ruling of court?
For example, if large part of defamation accusation article is based on lies (as it was painted out to be her being the main victim and Depp being main aggressor, which isn't true), does that mean Depp had a chance to win too?
My argument is that the jury may see their relationship as "mutually abusive". Most stuff happened behind the closed door and both claimed to be the victim. It'll be very hard to prove otherwise even though one might have slightly better evidences than other. For the common folks, things always make more sense when one is the aggressor and other is the victim but any relationship expert will tell you it's not that simple and I believe that's what jury' leaning torward to.
My 2nd argument is about the "defamination" lawsuit . Depp has to prove that 2018 article that Amber' team wrote, damaged his public image and she did it with no other intention. This point out to my first point, if Jury see this as a mutually abusive relationship then what she said was "partially correct" and she did it just to PR her new movie etc...He's the plaintiff, he's the one that has to prove things in court.
With that being said, I believe Depp's trying to win public's opinion, not the lawsuit itself. Depp might not be a saint but noone deserves to be cancelled just because another person shit in his bed.
Sure, I don't think 50m compensation is what Depp wants here, he just want to win back the public support, and exposed the true face of Amber, which he already did.
But I also feel Amber should be held accountable of her actions under law. Of course she is probably already done with her career and reputation, but it would be better if she would still being held accountable for this. You just can't let people lies and ruin the life of another person, without being held accountable into anything.
So I have to confess, I actually have no idea who is sueing who over what. 
Google is your friend, BITCH.So I have to confess, I actually have no idea who is sueing who over what.
Referring to Amber, obvs.
Amber Heard shit on Johnny Depp's silk bedsheets so he's suing her for $50m (the price of the bedsheets).So I have to confess, I actually have no idea who is sueing who over what.
No he's not, he invades my privacy and is a manipulative cnut.
Well that's just one side of the story.
Can't believe she's made a living as an actress, her acting in court is like something out of a 6 year olds school play. Absolutely shocking.
Mmm, not really due to her acting.
But she's counter-suing him so actually they're both the plaintiff.
He didn't say he wants to know.
I just googled this to see if Jesse from breaking bad said it. Don’t think so.
The funny part about thinking like this is that Depp's a fantastic actor, so does that mean he's giving the performance of his life on the stand?
did you see the part where she recoiled in fear when Depp was walking towards her? It did look very contrived
especially after listening to all the recordings of her being aggressive and borderline bullying him during arguments
Her testimony would be more accepted if they had laid the foundations of likablity and evidence before she took to the stand
Depp's team took time to humanise him and lay the groundwork for understanding he's not just talking off the top of his head. They then tied it up with a few further supporting witnesses, a damning analysis of Heard and then damages.
Heard just had one Psychologist who said she isn't crazy and then she went straight into her story which is at complete juxtaposition to what we previously heard.
It's jarring and unless she literally has nothing to back it up bar pounding the table and weaponised tears it's poor strategy.
They left her too much work to do.
Depp's team took time to humanise him and lay the groundwork for understanding he's not just talking off the top of his head. They then tied it up with a few further supporting witnesses, a damning analysis of Heard and then damages.
Heard just had one Psychologist who said she isn't crazy and then she went straight into her story which is at complete juxtaposition to what we previously heard.
It's jarring and unless she literally has nothing to back it up bar pounding the table and weaponised tears it's poor strategy.
They left her too much work to do.
You seen one of her ex assistants said that Amber tried to get him to convince James to lie on the stand for her and say that Amber didn't know that she couldn't transport her dogs into Australia. When he refused to ask James she asked him to lie on the stand instead & threatened his job if he wouldn't.
Also, check this video demonstrating how she staged the broken bed to back up her assault claim.
Assuming you're referring to the same assistant, it's probably also worth noting that claim was already dismissed by the judge in the UK trial.
For reasons including (but not limited to) the assistant's evident loyalty to Johnny Depp ("I'll always have your back ... anytime/anywhere ... Continued relentless exposure of the fraud and the scamber bandits is key") and his obvious lack of reliability given he openly admitted he was willing to give false evidence in court, something that doesn't play well when you're giving evidence in court.
Heard should never have hired someone who has rotten in their name, was doomed before it even started.
He didn't lie for her in court though did he? I didn't follow what actually happened with the dog import Aussie case. Still, we know she's not afraid of a lie since it's confirmed that she lied to get the restraining order so she & her mates could live rent free in JD's penthouses, even though he already told her he wouldn't kick her out & she could stay for several months until she was able to get her own place.
Is this photoshopped? Can't explain the tear on her cheek otherwise.
Damn, I've been caught out.
Half expect to see this submitted as evidence of JD threatening her tbf.
Not seen that.
I did see a few videos of people sharing audio of the Australia Incident that seems to contradict Heard's story where she supposedly says she didn't mean to do it.
And it contradicts her saying she didn't trash the place since she apparantly did in the tape. Her claim of locking herself in the bedroom away from JD & taking sleeping pills is also a lie because there's only 1 entrace to the bathroom with the mirror she says he defaced and it's through the room she claims she locked herself in.
This entire thing is incredibly uncomfortable.
Not sure the audio if it can be played in court though since they agreed to exclude audio that isn't just the two parties.
The agreement to not bring up exes was apparently a stipulation too, which is why some of us think that the judge may be more willing to allow Heard's allegation in after she mentioned Kate Moss, but perhaps didn't after a slip up by the expert.
Before this trial I was on "her side". I had read in the news about the UK court and just assumed that Depp was an abusive piece of shit.
A few weeks ago during a boring evening I wen't down the Youtube rabbit-hole and stumbled upon a compilation of the trial. It completely changed my mind.
The tapes where she admits assaulting him, the disguisting lies about donating to a children's hospital. And now that she's taken the stand I believe her even less, she's lying through her teeth in a lot of what she claims, her reactions and her overexplaining is as convincing as when my 7 year old is lying to me.
I still believe Depp did some bad shit to her but I think she did the same back, maybe even worse it seems like. That she then had the nerve to try and use the Me Too movement to gather attention to herself is fecking disguisting in so many ways. I hope her image and credibility is completely destroyed after this.
Think my favourite so far was when she was walking away from him but he slapped her in the face so now she's suddenly facing him but then she says she turned around and said "Johnny you hit me". Man must have been teleporting all around the room. That story or the one where she clearly practiced a script and said she was slipping on the parakeet floor, clearly because she doesn't know how to read parquet. Idk, maybe the floor really was made up of lots of parakeets.
I haven't seen that part with the bird floor yet.