Haven't seen that. But he started the reemergence of the hip hop in the early naughties. His influence is greater than Pac or Biggie IMO.
Yeah I'm only messing. He's gone weird recently though.
I used to love him but I'm not a fan any more. A lot of his work now seems to be rhyming for the sake of rhyming without too much thought for what he's actually saying. I also don't like his recent 'look how quickly I can rap' phase. He also really needs to stop with the shock rap thing...it was daring and new a couple of decades ago but it's a bit pathetic to listen to a fifty year old man rap about rape/buttholes etc (not that making light of rape or homophobia was ever ok). He's got a huge body of work and has only made four quality albums imo (MMLP, MMLP2, Eminem Show and Slim Shady LP
Wow not sure how he hasn't been cancelled!
Flipping hell that was a bad typo! Edited...Pac being called overrated makes him underrated. He dropped two classic albums and one iconic album before he was 25 for fecks sake
Biggie is probably the most quotable rapper in history despite limited albums. He was 24.
All Eyez On Me regardless if you thought it was wannabe gangster stuff is still iconic. The Makaveli album was exceptional. He released two albums in the last 8 months of his life (one being a two disc album) that have stood the test of time.
All opinions, isn't it. I happen to agree that Pac gets overrated as a result of his early death. All Eyez on Me is a classic but for me that's his only classic album. I also think his sound has aged poorly when you put him alongside rappers like Nas.
I love Kendrick but come on man! That's some praise.
Reemmergence? Are you suggesting hip hop went away in the late nineties?
It never went away, but it was far from the mainstream behemoth it is today.
Outkast would have to be right near very top. They’re absolutely brilliant phenomenal.
Hip Hop was already on that upturn, due in no small part to 2pac attacking all and sundry in the mid nineties and getting the world's attention from it. Eminem played his part in the naughties and is unquestionably a key figure of the era but to suggest he started anything is nonsense imvho
Because 2 Pac's legacy goes beyond technical ability and hits on the charts... For a rapper, the amount of emotion in his music was unparalleled. For lack of a better way to put it, you felt his music deeply.
It's not as cohesive as TPAB/GKMC but the hits on DAMN were so popular it didn't matter. From a critical acclaim perspective Kendrick is all set. DAMN established him as an artist that could pull off stadium tours.
Tbf, that's a subjective opinion. Not an objective fact.
Very opinion is subjective to some extent but even opinions must be supported by some sort of evidence. Regarding the 2Pac opinion I don't see it apart from "I don't like his music" which is fair but doesn't have any merit beyond that person's individual tastes.
Many put Tupac as the greatest that's ever lived which, to my mind, is nonsense and massively overrating someone that (again, for me) had one top class album and some decent ones. Also someone whose sound now sounds, to me, very dated. I know a decent amount about hip hop but also think that Tupac, while a top ten of all-time (probably) is overrated.
It’s his worst album but Kendrick’s worst is better than most people’s best. It just lacks something and felt too commercialised for me. I absolutely hate Humble and Loyalty. DNA is a banger though.
1. Ok yeah proclaiming him as the undisputed greatest is a bit OTT. He is closer than you give him credit though! His impact on hip-hop music in the 90s can't be overstated.
... Me Against the World, All Eyes on Me (one of the better double LPs) and Makaveli are all up there in terms of quality. That's not bad for someone who died in their 20s. I mean, Biggie is considered the GOAT by some and he only had 2 albums! Yeah, agree with almost all of this tbh. I agree that his standing for me is probably compromised as I just don't really dig him like I used to. And it's a valid point about Biggie. Its weird, when I was first getting into rap and hip hop culture more broadly I was MUCH more onto the west coast scene but now, even looking back at that time, I'm WAY more into the east coast music. Weird how tastes change.1. Ok yeah proclaiming him as the undisputed greatest is a bit OTT. He is closer than you give him credit though! His impact on hip-hop music in the 90s can't be overstated.
2. He has at least 3 top class albums, come on
3. A lot of stuff from that time sounds dated... And not just in terms of production. I dare you to listen to Efil4zaggin again with a straight face at all the misogyny... I try not to let that impact my understanding of a project's overall standing in the pantheon.
But overall fair enough, I don't think he's the GOAT.
Tupac's music is timeless. The production esp on AEOM is better sounding than some modern day music.
Dre didn't work with him because when Pac got to death row he had already fallen out with Suge Knight and was in the process of severing ties with Death Row.
Yeah, I guess if you like that sort of thing it is. It's just not for me. His thug persona always seemed rather affected and I just don't get on with that laid back, west coast sound (the production, not his rapping).
F*ck Your Ethnicity
I think you are just listening at a surface level which is fair enough as his music is clearly not your taste so you wouldn't delve deeper. Tupac never claimed to be a gangster, his music is usually a reflection of what he was going through in his life at the time, that's why each of his album's are so unique. The whole thug/gangster thing on AEOM was just based on the environment he was around at the time.
I think it's tricky for him to have it both ways. You can't release a song like Americaz Most Wanted and many others and simultaneously claim that you're not living that lifestyle. Of all his work, I think the best came when he dipped more into social commentary and storytelling mode and away from the swagger of Americaz Most Wanted and Ambitions of a Ridah
