19 children and 2 teachers killed in Texas school shooting (24 May 2022)

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Strong words from Biden today saying its time America showed some backbone and stood up to the gun lobby.
I know someone who might have the power to do just that. Gotta look up their name. Something along Joane Bidet. I’ll let you know once I find them.
 
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Strong words from Biden today saying its time America showed some backbone and stood up to the gun lobby.
As usual from Dems.

In fairness, I don't see a way out of it. 400m guns in circulation...even with a buyback scheme and more stringent laws on new legal purchases - or even a complete ban on new purchases (which will never happen) - you're never putting that genie back in the bottle.
 

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Why not just stop stores from selling guns and ammunition, or how about making it so that every individual bullet is $20,000, do of you wanted a full round, that would be a hefty sum of money.

Having such free and easy access to guns and ammunition is just wrong.
 

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Same politicians who will no doubt be on tv to say how sorry are they that this tragedy happened will be the same ones who votes against gun reform in their own states.

Horrific for those parents and loved ones to have sent their kids to school only for then to never return. RIP to all those who passed except the shooter hope he had a painful death wee bast@rd
Texas governor in 2015.



Texas governor last year


Texas governor today.

"I'm at a loss. How could something like this have happened?"
 

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There should be mass protests in front of their houses for as long as it takes to change the damn gun laws.
Nah, they'd probably get mown down by Confederate flag waving morons in Ford F150s with their AK47s shouting "USA!, USA!, USA!"
 

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Sensing a trend…

You could argue a lot of points about why this is a trend but the primary factor is the 30 round magazine offers the most destructive power.

The US needs total population licensing, background checks, daily verification, wait times for purchases, magazine limits, storage rules now. None of these infringe on the 2nd amendment. If you're a good citizen they are a minor inconvenience but you're still able to keep and bear arms, responsibly.
 

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Texas governor in 2015.



Texas governor last year


Texas governor today.

"I'm at a loss. How could something like this have happened?"
Be voting to stop gun reforms by tomorrow, the snake!
 

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You could argue a lot of points about why this is a trend but the primary factor is the 30 round magazine offers the most destructive power.

The US needs total population licensing, background checks, daily verification, wait times for purchases, magazine limits, storage rules now. None of these infringe on the 2nd amendment. If you're a good citizen they are a minor inconvenience but you're still able to keep and bear arms, responsibly.
Does an AR platform typically come with a 30 round magazine?
 

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Cancun Ted has forgotten there was a firefight before he entered the building.
 

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We shouldn''t be politicizing this story and blaming guns or the gun lobby. Instead we should be looking at securing every school in the US. Get retired security/law enforcement personnel to work voluntarily part time in the schools as security guards and give them tax breaks as compensation......oh and course we need to arm them!

Fecking morons!!

America really is fecked!
Someone already suggested doing that in this thread and it wasn't sarcasm. :eek:

Honestly they all seem insane to me, what about going to school without no guards and guns around, overall I feel more secure when there aren't armed people around at least that's how it was when I went to elementary school. Next thing they might suggest is to make the students wear body armor, or better yet arm them so they can kill an intruder.
 

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Cops took 45 minutes to wait for SWAT so they could engage, because he probably had body armor on (he didn't).

Cops are worse than bitches
Have you seen something that says he wasn’t wearing body armor? Everything I’ve seen says he was.
 

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So sad.

Feck your second amendment and shove those assault rifles up your arses.
The 2nd amendment has little to do with assault rifles being available like candies. The coalition of greedy corporates, policticians and media effectively controls the narrative.
Most folks are brainwashed from a very small age. And combine guns with religion, then you have perfect ingredients for a ****. Many people even actually believe Jesus endorses guns and assault rifles.
 

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The 2nd amendment has little to do with assault rifles being available like candies. The coalition of greedy corporates, policticians and media effectively controls the narrative.
Most folks are brainwashed from a very small age. And combine guns with religion, then you have perfect ingredients for a ****. Many people even actually believe Jesus endorses guns and assault rifles.
Would getting rid of it actually cause any harm? I can only see benefits.
 

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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

I mean you can tell this was written centuries ago. What use would these guns be against the modern US government? They wouldn't even get a shot off before getting blown into oblivion.
 

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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

I mean you can tell this was written centuries ago. What use would these guns be against the modern US government? They wouldn't even get a shot off before getting blown into oblivion.
It took two minutes to reload a flintlock musket when the 2A was ratified. Muskets were the weapons of infantry, the only advantage the government had was cannons. Both are obsolete now obviously.

Even if a militia was kitted out with the best weaponry they could gather today, it would still take the modern military less than an hour to obliterate them.

The 2A has been thoroughly perverted to maintain the status quo.
 
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It took two minutes to reload a flintlock musket when the 2A was ratified. Muskets were the weapons of infantry, the only advantage the government had was cannons. Both are obsolete now obviously.

Even if a militia was kitted out with the best weaponry they could gather today, it would still take the modern military less than an hour to obliterate them.

The 2A has been thoroughly perverted to maintain the status quo.
Don't disagree with you, back then you could see the reasoning behind it to solidify the nation state, but now it's just pointless.
 
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Some analyst/politician was on MSNBC last night discussing the second amendment was written before the modern bullet existed. Small lead balls/pellets were used in that era. The person said he doubts this particular amendment would have been written the way it was and so vague if high-projectile instruments like an AR-15 or M-4 had existed. That and we did not have the uniformed services like we see today so the militia was necessary to national/state defense.
 

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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

I mean you can tell this was written centuries ago. What use would these guns be against the modern US government? They wouldn't even get a shot off before getting blown into oblivion.
I always found it funny how terribly written that sentence is. The commas are just all over the place and as a result you can interpret it in about half a dozen different ways.
 

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I know someone who might have the power to do just that. Gotta look up their name. Something along Joane Bidet. I’ll let you know once I find them.
As usual from Dems.

In fairness, I don't see a way out of it. 400m guns in circulation...even with a buyback scheme and more stringent laws on new legal purchases - or even a complete ban on new purchases (which will never happen) - you're never putting that genie back in the bottle.
I was going to end my comment with "words are cheap" but didn't think it was needed in the circumstances.

The gun manufacturers / distributors / industry should be heavily taxed, to the extreme. The government should put the responsibility on them to clean up the problem, in the same way that car companies have been forced into safety initiatives. I know the examples are polar opposites but the concepts are similar and could be applied in similar ways.