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BIg fan of Mourinho (not his football) and not a fan of PSG but it would be pretty funny if he won the CL with them. Would make a lot of people track back and reexplain their opinions.
It really would not.

A large section of this forum agrees that the only managers worth anything nowadays are Klopp, Pep, ETH and maybe Zidane and Conte.

Therefore, United's repeated failures are not caused by the club being rotten to the core, but by the fact that all of their managers in the last nine years have been either frauds or has-beens.
 

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It really would not.

A large section of this forum agrees that the only managers worth anything nowadays are Klopp, Pep, ETH and maybe Zidane and Conte.

Therefore, United's repeated failures are not caused by the club being rotten to the core, but by the fact that all of their managers in the last nine years have been either frauds or has-beens.
Sadly, the longer a club stops winning major honors, the longer it will take to compete again. If PSG want a shot at CL glory, Mourinho is still one of the few coaches remembering what they really need to bring to that table.
 

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God thanks for reminding of that time he rocked up to a CL semifinal with this ultra defensive lineup :lol:

That was the end of good/prime Jose, it was the game against Atleti, right?
And the game when he blamed Hazard for not tracking back/defending, correct?

I still know how I was in disbelief. How can such a world class and experienced manager play 7 defenders in such an important game against an already defensive team like Atletico and afterwards still blame the more or less only creative player he decided to play for not tracking back.
 

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Guys a dinosaur, a remnant of a bygone era, and a twat to boot. PSG also happens to be 90% massive twats.

Twat Squared + Tactically out of touch, would = Disaster in my opinion.

Would be fun to watch though, given my equal dislike for the both of them.
 

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Guys a dinosaur, a remnant of a bygone era, and a twat to boot. PSG also happens to be 90% massive twats.

Twat Squared + Tactically out of touch, would = Disaster in my opinion.

Would be fun to watch though, given my equal dislike for the both of them.
True. He kinda fecked his own career over by his refusal to adapt and evolve his tactics and was dead set on sticking with the same thing he did in the past only difference was in the later stages he had completely lost that aura where players would do anything for him.

From winning the CL 2 times to crying over winning conference league. :lol:
 

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Wow, I really get under your skin don't I!! :lol:

Just thought that someone with superior knowledge about football such as yourself, you'd know a high profile manager such as Conceicao? Strange that you don't.

Usually a team picks a manager they believe will do a better job than the last, which is what Spurs done with Jose.

Would be strange for PSG to pick what they believe to be an inferior manager to Poch as his replacement, wouldn't you agree?
Nah, you don't get under my skin. I like educating members on this forum. I don't watch much Portuguese football and I don't know which united fan does either unless they are from Portugal, a scout or just have an interest in that league.

It has happened before when club pick managers that are inferior to the last. That what happens when you have clowns making decisions. Happened at United with Ole in place of Jose, spurs with Jose in place of poch, Chelsea with lampard in place of Conte, and the list goes on. The only way to know if it works out is if the new manager hired, does much better than the previous one and at psg, it would be hard to find a manager that would do better than poch in the 1 and half year in charge because only tuchel went further than him in the competition that matters the most to psg.
 

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Honestly Mourinho could work with PSG, nobody is really finished. We thought Ancelotti was done at the top level but here we are.
 

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It really would not.

A large section of this forum agrees that the only managers worth anything nowadays are Klopp, Pep, ETH and maybe Zidane and Conte.

Therefore, United's repeated failures are not caused by the club being rotten to the core, but by the fact that all of their managers in the last nine years have been either frauds or has-beens.
If thats the case the fan base is clueless. If ETH belongs on that liste, but Conte and Zidane are 'maybe's' you're deluded.
 

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If thats the case the fan base is clueless. If ETH belongs on that liste, but Conte and Zidane are 'maybe's' you're deluded.
ETH has his spot secured on the list but Tuchel isn't even a "maybe" ^^

I mean, did I miss a part of his carreer when he consistently displayed his ability to coach a locker room full of seasoned players in a high pressure environnement?
 

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Honestly Mourinho could work with PSG, nobody is really finished. We thought Ancelotti was done at the top level but here we are.
Things always look better when you have the best tools at your disposal. He wasn't able to work his magic on a regular club like Everton was he?
 

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Things always look better when you have the best tools at your disposal. He wasn't able to work his magic on a regular club like Everton was he?
Horses for courses. Poch would actually be more suited to Everton than PSG.
 

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True. He kinda fecked his own career over by his refusal to adapt and evolve his tactics and was dead set on sticking with the same thing he did in the past only difference was in the later stages he had completely lost that aura where players would do anything for him.

From winning the CL 2 times to crying over winning conference league. :lol:
Yep! He captured lightning in a bottle for a minute there, with his crazy charisma and ability to stir up an underdog mentality. He reall was great for a little while, shame he was long past his best by the time he rocked up to Old Trafford. That spell at RM changed something for him though, no doubt, and his tactics were already growing outdated.

Very few managers make it through more than one tactical cycle on top. Just another thing which sets SAF apart from the vast majority of other managerial greats.
 

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If Jose comes he will sign Lukaku and other players that he or Conte has worked with. I am 99% sure.
 

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No chance.

For all intents and purposes, Mbappe is assistant manager. There's no way he would work for a club where the tail wags the dog.

He had enough of player power nonsense at United.

For that very reason, no manager who has a backbone would ever manage PSG whilst a player has a say over transfers and the general running of the club.
 

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They just signed a Portuguese sporting director. With ties to Mourinho

This is most likely going to happen.
 

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It would probably happen if mou has a nice second season with roma.
Can't see it happening right , I think mou would probably like to stick around in roma for just another year.
 

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No chance.

For all intents and purposes, Mbappe is assistant manager. There's no way he would work for a club where the tail wags the dog.

He had enough of player power nonsense at United.

For that very reason, no manager who has a backbone would ever manage PSG whilst a player has a say over transfers and the general running of the club.
Please it will be more like Assist Sporting Director... and not some low-level pleb job.
 

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Mourinho is far from tactically superb. This isn’t 2010. His teams are shite at pressing, shite at playing out from the back, far from compact and to top it off they’re not as fit as the best teams in the world.
Tactics are still one of Mourinhos strengths. That was evident at Utd when our toxic dressing room was hanging managers out to dry. Roma just won their first ever european trophy. We won our first europa league trophy under him.

He demonstrated his tactical ability for us at places like anfield away where utd worked on a specific play to find space inbetween the right sided centre back and liverpool right back. Lukaku flick on, for rashford to run onto and score. Something that was worked on in the training ground.

Many dont like mourinho because of his time here, but tactically there arent many better.
 

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Tactics are still one of Mourinhos strengths. That was evident at Utd when our toxic dressing room was hanging managers out to dry. Roma just won their first ever european trophy. We won our first europa league trophy under him.

He demonstrated his tactical ability for us at places like anfield away where utd worked on a specific play to find space inbetween the right sided centre back and liverpool right back. Lukaku flick on, for rashford to run onto and score. Something that was worked on in the training ground.

Many dont like mourinho because of his time here, but tactically there arent many better.
Tactics doesn't mean getting one result here and there, it's about getting consistent results and getting more than sum of its parts.

Ole did double on Pep, doubt anyone is calling him tactical genius.
 

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No chance.

For all intents and purposes, Mbappe is assistant manager. There's no way he would work for a club where the tail wags the dog.

He had enough of player power nonsense at United.

For that very reason, no manager who has a backbone would ever manage PSG whilst a player has a say over transfers and the general running of the club.
assistant to the manager.
 

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Tactics doesn't mean getting one result here and there, it's about getting consistent results and getting more than sum of its parts.

Ole did double on Pep, doubt anyone is calling him tactical genius.
That is true both points. But putting utd biases aside, he is tactically very good. You have to be anyway to survive and prosper in Italian football where the formation of the opposition can change 3-4 times a game.
 

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That is true both points. But putting utd biases aside, he is tactically very good. You have to be anyway to survive and prosper in Italian football where the formation of the opposition can change 3-4 times a game.
He was good, I will always agree with that. Is he good now? I don't think so. He is on decline and game has moved on.
 

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The hate that Jose Mourinho has on this forum is so weird and disturbing. The man is still our most successful manager post SAF and a lot of things he said in the past later turned out to be right.
 

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The hate that Jose Mourinho has on this forum is so weird and disturbing. The man is still our most successful manager post SAF and a lot of things he said in the past later turned out to be right.
all that went out the window when he started separating him and us. Saying the club is used to being knocked out early in the CL etc.

feck him.
 

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Let’s hope he wants Maguire and McTominay!!!!!!

This is going to be so fun.
 

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The hate that Jose Mourinho has on this forum is so weird and disturbing. The man is still our most successful manager post SAF and a lot of things he said in the past later turned out to be right.
He was hated before he even stepped in the door, after his tenure it's no suprise that the hate is perhaps even worse.

He should never have been hired by the club, anyone with half a brain saw how it would turn out and it happened as expected, like clock work.

Expect the same to happen at PSG.
 

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Nah, you don't get under my skin. I like educating members on this forum. I don't watch much Portuguese football and I don't know which united fan does either unless they are from Portugal, a scout or just have an interest in that league.

It has happened before when club pick managers that are inferior to the last. That what happens when you have clowns making decisions. Happened at United with Ole in place of Jose, spurs with Jose in place of poch, Chelsea with lampard in place of Conte, and the list goes on. The only way to know if it works out is if the new manager hired, does much better than the previous one and at psg, it would be hard to find a manager that would do better than poch in the 1 and half year in charge because only tuchel went further than him in the competition that matters the most to psg.
:lol: if you want to educate me, I'd implore you to start improving your knowledge of world football, might actually open your eyes to better managers than Poch, of which there are many!!

Clubs certainly have mad mistakes, I mean you just mentioned that PSG made a mistake in going for Poch after Tuchel!!
But rarely does a club actively look for a worse manager than the one they currently have. I highly doubt PSG looked at Poch and realised there and then he wouldn't be as good as Tuchel did they?!

But they made a mistake, hindsight is a wonderful thing.


Another name to educate you further: Marcelo Gallardo

Another whose tipped to improve on Pochs failure.
 
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