If the choice is painkillers and continue to earn millions or no painkillers then i'd guess 99% of young people would take the painkillers.
Thanks for making the point.
Athlete in bad form & shows loss of confidence.
Classic whataboutism. (your statement "with countless players delivering career worst performances", other players performances have nothing do with his refusal to fight for his team)Athlete in bad form & shows loss of confidence.
Redcafe make statements like ‘downs tools’ about certain players whilst others get a free ride.
Strange criticism to make when without him we were pummelled in multiple matches with countless players delivering career worst performances.
The guy has a PR team like no other footballer but you can do charitable things & perform badly on the pitch in tandem, he didn’t suddenly start saying/doing acts of charity/PR events the second his form fell off a cliff [*cough* our captain *cough*]. You’d think the possibility of him returning to a semblance of form & fully fit in pre-season were a bad thing. Believe it or not, not every gesture footballers make is to appease you.
Rashford feeds kids.
Redcafe posters lose shit because the world revolves around them. ‘Blatant disrespect’ is getting d*cked by Brighton
Edit: you can do charitable things
Whataboutism because I didn’t post the majority of the first team squad. I’m longwinded enough without having to go name by name.
We’re talking about Rashford. Whataboutism would be asking ‘how many athletes blah blah blah’. You can’t say ‘Player X’ never did this so. . . I’m uncomfortable with putting most players poor performances down to a lack of effort unless we’re talking Pierre Van Hooijdonk levels of downing tools but given the consensus that question marks hang over most of the squad I’d give Rashford the benefit of the doubt for at least this season. I’d argue since LvG who was archaic tactically, he’s not received elite level man to man coaching that EtH is being billed for.
Your first bullet point, I don’t think he’s had 2 ‘absolute worst’ seasons. Covered in post you quoted.
No one has said he isn’t.
Hey, feel free to search my posts regarding Rashford and his charitable endeavours. I've had nothing but praise for him, and continue to admire all that he's done in that regard. However, ambling about the pitch and even turning his back on a goal-scoring opportunity as he did in a game back in January (I think it was Greenwood who cut it back for him) is not loss of confidence, in my opinion - it's moping, and that is unforgivable. But kudos on the carefully-constructed post, with such disposable lines as "believe it or not, not every gesture footballers make is to appease you'.Athlete in bad form & shows loss of confidence.
Redcafe make statements like ‘downs tools’ about certain players whilst others get a free ride.
Strange criticism to make when without him we were pummelled in multiple matches with countless players delivering career worst performances.
The guy has a PR team like no other footballer but you can do charitable things & perform badly on the pitch in tandem, he didn’t suddenly start saying/doing acts of charity/PR events the second his form fell off a cliff [*cough* our captain *cough*]. You’d think the possibility of him returning to a semblance of form & fully fit in pre-season were a bad thing. Believe it or not, not every gesture footballers make is to appease you.
Rashford feeds kids.
Redcafe posters lose shit because the world revolves around them. ‘Blatant disrespect’ is getting d*cked by Brighton
Edit: you can do charitable things
In other words, you have no valid retort.
Amen. Stop acting like a brat on the pitch and muck in or leave and find a fan base that will tolerate it.
Took the words out of my mouth. This thread is an example of the very worst United fans.
Nuance was taken outside and executed some years ago.
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Good decision!
the chains have nout to do with anything.
The guy didn't want to run for half a season because he was playing shit and getting benched, leading to some outright embarrassing performances and yet the people that want him gone are the morons?
Something something 'top red' something.
All the jewelry must be weighing him down.
Rashford under Conte?
Well, that would be interesting. But Spurs would suit him actually. London, more mouths to feed than in Manchester, playing in CL and no pressure with trophies.
Argument to rival Aristotle and Plato themselves.
Simon Stone is actually his neighbor so he knows a lot about Rashford and his books.
Agree. As bas as his performances have been last season, some people in here perform even worse as a Fan.
I’ll try not to get in the trenches. What bothers me is not about expecting effort. I do to. It’s about going into full certainty on such a damning claim about the inner workings of someone you don’t actually know. I’ve seen enough football (and media) to know that you can’t really tell on a players movement on the pitch wether what’s going on inside is entitlement, self criticism, confusion, depression, misunderstanding, injuries or inner conflict. I’ve seen people being slated for arrogant lack of application only to see later they were attempting suicide in a state of depression and self hate (I’m not claiming this is Rashford’s issue!). It’s just very difficult to know.
The criticism about anything on the pitch and his performances is fair game, i'd acknowledge your point for the fools that say focus on football and stop feeding kids.
