Rashford considering his future...

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He does look in a good shape. Hopefully, he will come good this season. However, if he performs the same way he did the last season then he'd have no place in the squad. This coming season ideally should be his last if he doesn't perform well.
 

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Odds on this picture being cited as an excuse for poor performances circa November time?

“Lad was back in training too soon”
 

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That's just not true. If fans didn't have an impact, then home advantage wouldnt be a statistically proven thing across every league.
That's fans shouting at the game. I mean fan sentiment doesn't influence what the club does.
 

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He needs to be working on his technique, passing and decision making. Doesn't matter how ripped he gets, until he sorts out these he will still be bang average.
 

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No issue with the posting but it won’t help his decision making on the pitch.
 

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He can post what he likes. This would have not been an issue under SAF, because he wouldn’t tolerate a minutes worth of shite from any player. Reason this is an issue is weak leadership. Signs are that ETH is likely to not tolerate his standards being met, which is exactly what’s needed. Rashford attracts ire because he has been frankly mediocre for bloody ages and inexplicably it’s been tolerated and in some ways rewarded.
 

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Social media is very simple, if you don't want to see Rashford posts don't follow him and don't scour every online paper for daily news. People are going mad with their own nonsense.
The people criticising Rashford is more to do with his attitude on the pitch last season. Social media is just the icing on the cake. If he had of put the effort in then he could post whatever he liked and the caf would still be a happy place. He didn't. So it's not.
 

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The people criticising Rashford is more to do with his attitude on the pitch last season. Social media is just the icing on the cake. If he had of put the effort in then he could post whatever he liked and the caf would still be a happy place. He didn't. So it's not.
Yet that same bunch of people probably had been defending Pogba the last five years.
 

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Social media is very simple, if you don't want to see Rashford posts don't follow him and don't scour every online paper for daily news. People are going mad with their own nonsense.
Exactly
 

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People get too worked up about 'news reports.' They take it as gospel but the reality is they are just being selective in how they process these 'reports' -- according to or just reinforcing their own narrative.
True. Everything is twisted to suit the narrative they have already chosen, especially for the player they didn't like from the start and comes up with bs reason to hate the player.
 

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True. Everything is twisted to suit the narrative they have already chosen, especially for the player they didn't like from the start and comes up with bs reason to hate the player.
Or we are just a bit tired of the same old shit.
 

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Or we are just a bit tired of the same old shit.
Then don't follow his account or anything related to him, or scroll past the tweet that posted Rashford's video or anything related to him. No one is forcing people to watch the videos.

On the pitch criticism is perfectly fine and he has been for last 18 months, doesn't mean people have to moan about what he does off the pitch, that too on his vacation.

Maybe not all the posts and videos are targeted for you, there might be young Rashford fans who love this content.
 

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Then don't follow his account or anything related to him, or scroll past the tweet that posted Rashford's video or anything related to him. No one is forcing people to watch the videos.

On the pitch criticism is perfectly fine and he has been for last 18 months, doesn't mean people have to moan about what he does off the pitch, that too on his vacation.

Maybe not all the posts and videos are targeted for you, there might be young Rashford fans who love this content.
It’s the irrational off field sentiment that many have for Rashford that clouds their on field judgement. It’s so puerile.

I can assure you that I don’t seek out his social media posts in the ether, I only see them when someone posts them on here. But, the fact that he puts them out allows for warranted criticism, especially when his on field performance has been poor to abysmal for the past 18 months.
 

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Rashford has been below par for a long while, and there is no guarantee that he will ever display his best again. There are also some very strange people associated with United's fans.
 

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The club has been a bit of a sh*tshow for some time now. Why can we all easily accept that but then not be able to accept that the same situation might have affected players form?

We are all too quick to attack everything nowadays. It's a new beginning for the club with lots to be excited about. IMO everyone should reset, park the moaning for a while and try to be positive, at least until we have new reasons not to be.
You are right. We should forget last season and enjoy a fresh start. Nothing good will come from complaining again and again. Ten Hag should have time to work with the team. Most players won’t leave anyway, so we should try to get as much as we can from them.
 

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It’s the irrational off field sentiment that many have for Rashford that clouds their on field judgement. It’s so puerile.

I can assure you that I don’t seek out his social media posts in the ether, I only see them when someone posts them on here. But, the fact that he puts them out allows for warranted criticism, especially when his on field performance has been poor to abysmal for the past 18 months.
On field performance has nothing to do with what they lost, i didn't see anyone using his off field work to make excuses for his poor performance, on the other hand, people who hate him used his off field work as one of the reason for his poor performance and he should concentrate only on football.

Imo Rashford should post what he wants without worrying about few people who look for reason to be offended.

I don't know why he shouldn't post on his personal account just because he was poor for 18 months, such an entitled attitude. "Player didn't play well, so he shouldn't post anything on his personal social media account", players are not there to post what you want.
 

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How is that type of a lift at all anything impressive for a professional athlete making hundreds of thousands of pounds a week? I do that at the gym, I don't record myself though, and I'm still getting a dad bod. That sort of lift wouldn't help you in any way being in shape for a pressing team that Ten Hag wants. Stupid, stupid stupid.
 

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I hate most of our fans based on this thread.

The criticisms of him on here are so OTT and dramatic it is amazing.
Never mind this thread -- what sort of fans are United fans who seem to take any opportunity to slag off the club, players etc? Fair weather fans. All clubs go up and down. If they know the history of United they would be a lot more patient and more forgiving.
 

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It would be massive for us if he can regain his old form

with a new manager I'm optimistic of improvement, at the very least.. I mean, it would be hard not to improve at this point
 

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It would be massive for us if he can regain his old form

with a new manager I'm optimistic of improvement, at the very least.. I mean, it would be hard not to improve at this point
I am pretty sure he will. He played with a fecked up back for 12months before going for surgery. He deserves some credit in the bank for that. Also, ETH will be his 5th.... 5th manager in his relatively young career. That has got to affect his confidence at some point especially when all the managers have different approaches.

He will come good.
 

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I am pretty sure he will. He played with a fecked up back for 12months before going for surgery. He deserves some credit in the bank for that. Also, ETH will be his 5th.... 5th manager in his relatively young career. That has got to affect his confidence at some point especially when all the managers have different approaches.

He will come good.
Another factor in his down-trend, and well everyones really might be their mental health. I'm assuming he was mates with Greenwood. And just going by how upset I got by all that, I can't imagine how it felt for his teammates.

If you add on top of that the pressure of playing for United, you could see how it might be an issue.
 

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Another factor in his down-trend, and well everyones really might be their mental health. I'm assuming he was mates with Greenwood. And just going by how upset I got by all that, I can't imagine how it felt for his teammates.

If you add on top of that the pressure of playing for United, you could see how it might be an issue.
Loss of confidence and fans booing him will do that. I get really disgusted when fans boo their own players. I was at Anfield once where a section of the crowd was shouting in unison telling the club Liverpool captain to feck off.
I smiled ... very unRawkish.
 

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Never mind this thread -- what sort of fans are United fans who seem to take any opportunity to slag off the club, players etc? Fair weather fans. All clubs go up and down. If they know the history of United they would be a lot more patient and more forgiving.
My first season on the terraces we were relegated. I wonder how that would go down now?
 

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On field performance has nothing to do with what they lost, i didn't see anyone using his off field work to make excuses for his poor performance, on the other hand, people who hate him used his off field work as one of the reason for his poor performance and he should concentrate only on football.
Yeah, I agree.

The fact is that hardly anyone uses his off-pitch status as an excuse for poor performances - it's an idea that mainly exists in the minds of people who dislike him.

The same goes for a lot of our players: hardly anyone defends their performances unduly for sentimental or irrational reasons - it's almost always a case of defending them, on principle, against fellow fans who go too far in their "criticism" (and who seem to think that the latter is a healthy "standard" that everyone should adhere to).
 

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I am pretty sure he will. He played with a fecked up back for 12months before going for surgery. He deserves some credit in the bank for that. Also, ETH will be his 5th.... 5th manager in his relatively young career. That has got to affect his confidence at some point especially when all the managers have different approaches.

He will come good.
Never happened.
 

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He played with a fecked up back for 12months before going for surgery. He deserves some credit in the bank for that.
Only if those 12 months were super good. If a player (not just Rashford) plays through their injuries and plays shit during that period, because it is paining, then it is all moot. There is no credit earned during the phase.
 

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Yeah, I agree.

The fact is that hardly anyone uses his off-pitch status as an excuse for poor performances - it's an idea that mainly exists in the minds of people who dislike him.

The same goes for a lot of our players: hardly anyone defends their performances unduly for sentimental or irrational reasons - it's almost always a case of defending them, on principle, against fellow fans who go too far in their "criticism" (and who seem to think that the latter is a healthy "standard" that everyone should adhere to).
Exactly, it's weird there are few posters who just make up things to have a go at player.

Rashford posted engagement pic, some weirdo came up with what might be the future excuse for the player.
 

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Just like youse made up things to defend him from non existence long term injury to potential mental sickness issue
His injuries were not non existent to be fair. I mean its well documented
 

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Just like youse made up things to defend him from non existence long term injury to potential mental sickness issue
I don't know who is 'Youse', long term injury is non existent? Yeah, he took break after Wolves game in FA cup just for fun :lol:. He was even ruled out for rest of the season, covid break was the reason he played that season again.

I don't about potential mental sickness, maybe you should take it up with the "youse" you are talking about.
 

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His injuries were not non existent to be fair. I mean its well documented
Any moment you will see how fake all those injuries were, his double stress fracture was just PR gimmick.
 

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If it's true there are teams looking into him we should bite their hands off and run. 40-50 million added to the summer budget will be great.