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Don’t care a bit about the plot overall. We got to see Vader go beast mode in Episode 5, and the final showdown between Kenobi and Vader was just fantastic. I don’t remember anything else. And don’t care. Star Wars stories have been shit since the 80s, with the exception of Rogue One, which was aces.
 
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Episode 2, the village scene in episode 3, episode 5 and the fight scene in this finale were all top entertainment - were the plot points getting the pieces in to place a bit convoluted and ridiculous at times? Yes. Was episode 4 some properly shite filler? Yes. Was the dialogue very clunky (maybe that’s in homage to Lucas…)? Yes. Did it still have epic fan servicing peaks to make it all worth it? Of course it did. It’s Star Wars not Shakespeare - the writing has always been objectively shite when viewed through a critical lens.
 

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Because that's literally the inquisitors job and what they've been doing since the end of the prequels. And she wanted revenge on Obi Wan.
I like to think she knew he was anakins son and didn't kill him anyway. I have no idea how she could possibly know that ... but its a nice arc so ill believe it anyway.
 

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Episode 2, the village scene in episode 3, episode 5 and the fight scene in this finale were all top entertainment - were the plot points getting the pieces in to place a bit convoluted and ridiculous at times? Yes. Was episode 4 some properly shite filler? Yes. Was the dialogue very clunky (maybe that’s in homage to Lucas…)? Yes. Did it still have epic fan servicing peaks to make it all worth it? Of course it did. It’s Star Wars not Shakespeare - the writing has always been objectively shite when viewed through a critical lens.
That’s pretty much how I feel too.
 

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The fan service moments were very satisfying, and I'll just leave with that and try to ignore the rest.

I hope the writers are fired after this, nonetheless.
 

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The last showdown between Vader and Obi-Wan was cool as was the finale in general. On the whole though, bit meh.
 

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It was a nice bit of Star Wars fan fiction, and as that I enjoyed it.

Sure lots of it doesn't make much sense (Reva storyline felt a bit all over the place), and I'm not sure how well it fits into the overall film arch (why it felt a bit more like fan fiction to me)... But hey, got to see more of the Star Wars world, had some cool scenes (mainly involving Vader) and let Ewan McGregor be in an good Star Wars thing (though I really don't feel like he and Alec Guinness are the same person).

I also now feel bad for how Uncle Owen dies like such a chump in a New Hope
 

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I absolutely cannot believe Obi Wan spared Vader's life again
Just think how different the Star Wars universe would have looked like if people made sure they killed whoever they were supposed to kill

Loved the final episode, enjoyed the show overall despite the weaker parts (and episode 4). I'm a fan, service me and I'll be happy. I'm happy.
 

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Just think how different the Star Wars universe would have looked like if people made sure they killed whoever they were supposed to kill

Loved the final episode, enjoyed the show overall despite the weaker parts (and episode 4). I'm a fan, service me and I'll be happy. I'm happy.
I get sparing his friend and padawan Anakin, but doing it again with Vader is too much. Alderaan is on Obi Wan
 

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The fight was awesome although it was a bit illogical to walk away like he did at the end & I would’ve liked them to have done something different from Rebels. Reva’s story also felt flat by the end.

Overall, though it was a fun series to watch.
 

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Fun but had way too many plot holes. Often felt like it was only for kids
 

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I get sparing his friend and padawan Anakin, but doing it again with Vader is too much. Alderaan is on Obi Wan
Alderaan was Tarkin though, wasn't it, after Vader couldn't get into Leia's Jedi mind. I seem to remember Vader sniffing at the 'planet killing machines' or summat.
 

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I absolutely cannot believe Obi Wan spared Vader's life again
Yes, he's a fecking numpty especially
after saying this has to end, one of us will die this time. And then before the fight once again proclaiming, "I will do what I must"

On a different note, did Ewan McGregor do a spot on Alec Guinnes impression or did they put the original "hello there" voice track in. Uncanny.
 
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Alderaan was Tarkin though, wasn't it, after Vader couldn't get into Leia's Jedi mind. I seem to remember Vader sniffing at the 'planet killing machines' or summat.
Yeah, Alderaan goes either way.

The Empire would still have all the power and be running down Rebels/Leia of Vader died.
 

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i dont know how you could possibly be surprised that vader doesn't get killed in this :lol:
It was always going to be a bit contrived
 

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i dont know how you could possibly be surprised that vader doesn't get killed in this :lol:
It was always going to be a bit contrived
Of course he couldn't die, but no need to create a situation where Obi Wan spares him. Again.
 

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They're almost certainly going to do another season...

 

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Or that after making such a big deal about hunting Obi Wan and making him suffer and feel as he did, Vader was happy to just drop some rocks on him and walk away without making sure he was dead
Star Wars really has an issue with people not making sure their targets are dead :lol:
 

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Of course he couldn't die, but no need to create a situation where Obi Wan spares him. Again.
I dont really see how you could avoid it. You throw the pair of them together and both need to walk away in one piece afterwards. Would it have been better for Vader to walk away?
If you want a more nerdy explanation then jedi's dont kill unless forced to, they follow the will of the force. The force needs / wants Vader to kill the emperor so its a good thing Obi Wan left him alive
 

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They're almost certainly going to do another season...

Not sure what you could really do with the main characters at this point given the restrictions having to fit into the ANH set-up places on the plot. Can't just keep having Obi Wan and Vader fight and let each other go over and over.
 

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Not sure what you could really do with the main characters at this point given the restrictions having to fit into the ANH set-up places on the plot. Can't just keep having Obi Wan and Vader fight and let each other go over and over.
Maybe Luke gets kidnapped and Obi Wan has to save him from some imperial strike force, something like the inquisition maybe
 

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They're almost certainly going to do another season...

Dont think they should. I enjoyed it but i really think they squeezed the last drops out of this character and kind of got away with it more than made a great justification for returning to him.
 

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Overall I thought the finale was excellent. Obviously the series as a whole suffered from what I think are simply production and writing failures. And I am only using Mandalorian as a contrast. The writing, directing, and production of a comparable Disney+ show are CLEARLY tighter, more focused than the majority of this. It was the same in Bobba Fett where the Mandalorian focused episodes were obviously better written and produced and saved that series.

If Disney focuses on that for the rest of the spinoff series they will find success. Obi Wan relied a lot on nostalgia and seeing a full powered Vader to power through some of the other obvious issues. If they try and shake another season out of this there isn't enough story really to bring Vader to bear again before the movies. They will need to tighten up everything else.
 

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Maybe Luke gets kidnapped and Obi Wan has to save him from some imperial strike force, something like the inquisition maybe
Could get the Emperor involved somehow maybe? I mean if they were willing to bring him back to life somehow then I'm sure they'd be willing to cram him into this somehow. In theory I don't think there's anything in the films that means Obi Wan and the Emperor couldn't have had some sort of interaction.

But I'd prefer if they just left this as one-off season. Having to work around canon really limits what they can do story-wise and there's only so much fan service I have the stomach for.
 

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Dont think they should. I enjoyed it but i really think they squeezed the last drops out of this character and kind of got away with it more than made a great justification for returning to him.
I agree with this 100%. The only way I could see it possibly working is getting Obi-wan away from Luke, Leia, and Vader and doing something completely different on a planet on the opposite side of the galaxy. Something like Thrawn for example (though I have no idea where Thrawn sits in the current canonical timeline).
 

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Really enjoyed the finale.. by far the best episode of the series. Can definitely see a season 2 happening, there’s still so much they can do between this and A New Hope.
 

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The trouble with it - other than the lack of a compelling plot, unimaginative direction and lousy dialogue - is the total lack of jeopardy.

Watching the finale, it's like "Oh my god what will happen to aunt Ber... Oh yeah, she'll be fine. But Uncle Owe... Ah, right. No, he'll also be fine."

Ultimately it added absolutely nothing to the wider story.
 

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I haven't watched this series yet; just a few clips of the fight scenes. I still have no real desire to watch it in full.

At this point I'm just really hoping that somebody at Disney has the vision to do something entirely new with the franchise. I'm sick to death of every series being reliant on the crutch that is fan-service. At this stage I'd rather they took a risk on something and have it go wrong than watch yet another scene which demonstrates just how badass Darth Vader was.
 

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The choreography is far better than in revenge of the sith. Those fights were too clean.
 

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Just finished it and over all it was fine. Broke canon here and there, made no sense here and there, but overall it was fine.

My biggest gripe though is that once again Disney is forcing a character into the story with the express purpose of making a spin off. Reva would have been fine if she was just a villain. The whole "arc" is just nonsense. "Im killing all these people so I can get close to Vader, even though when I get close to him Im as useless as a big wet fart in the desert". If they wanted to make a Reva show, they should just have made one. Theres no need for her to be introduced in this show. Her attack on Luke was dumb as feck. How did she get that Luke was Anakins kid from that message? Don't know. How is killing Luke "justice" for what Anakin did? Don't know. Just dumb story elements all to get a spin off going. Dumb.

It would have made much more sense to give her her own show and show her raising through the ranks of the inquisitors all for the chance to kill Anakin. Start off the show with her escaping order 66. Introduce her years later making a living as a hustler. She has a seemingly chance encounter with the grand inquisitor who takes her under his wing. And she starts to hunt and kill Jedi all for the chance to get into a room with Vader. They could tell a story that really questions the purpose and cost of revenge. But no, lets just shoe horn that story in to another characters story and ruin them both. And then call anyone who doesn't like the character and her arc racist to protect the shitty writing.

At this point, Disney is just shitting all over everything it makes just so it can push out more and more content. Its not even entertainment at this point, its just products to consume and dispose of. And everything is littered with "remember when...?". Ugh. At least it wasnt the book of boba fett. That was utter garbage until it became Mando 2.5.
 

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Not sure what you could really do with the main characters at this point given the restrictions having to fit into the ANH set-up places on the plot. Can't just keep having Obi Wan and Vader fight and let each other go over and over.
Or they just wouldn't care what happens on ANH. I thought they did OK when connecting the Vader and Obi Wan story from the end of the series to the film. Not so much with Leah (who sends that 'Help me Obi Wan Kenobi' message based on his relationship with her father and not herself).
 

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I agree with this 100%. The only way I could see it possibly working is getting Obi-wan away from Luke, Leia, and Vader and doing something completely different on a planet on the opposite side of the galaxy. Something like Thrawn for example (though I have no idea where Thrawn sits in the current canonical timeline).
That’s how they’ve set it up - he’s free to go off and do what he wants without Vader trying to find him. I think another Obi-Wan spinoff makes sense without Vader, Luke or Leia - and hopefully Vader can get his own show where we see him doing shit like in episode 5.