calodo2003
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An Oklahoma state representative is bringing a bill to their legislature demanding just that.Surely the solution is that all males are forced to undergo a reversible vasectomy at the onset of puberty that can be reversed when a married couple get permission to procreate?
Think he got it at the end…Surely the solution is that all males are forced to undergo a reversible vasectomy at the onset of puberty that can be reversed when a married couple get permission to procreate?
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I'd assume men would lose their mind at having their reproductive rights restricted.An Oklahoma state representative is bringing a bill to their legislature demanding just that.
Like watching continental drift in real time.
I don't think you know what murder is.I always wondered why this was always called pro-choice vs pro-life. It's pro-murder vs pro-life. I'm not religious, but terminating progression of a fetus is terminating life. Those that murder pregnant women are charged with a double murder (rightfully so).
An Oklahoma state representative is bringing a bill to their legislature demanding just that.
While it's true Trump has brought us into a post satire world, the proposal was by a democrat and was satirical in nature.I'd assume men would lose their mind at having their reproductive rights restricted.
Satire is no longer possible as some loon will already have seriously suggested it. Trump broke the world.
@ExoduS You can only murder a person, and according to US law, from what I've just read, you're only a person if you've been born.I don't think you know what murder is.
Republicans care more about pro-life than Democrats/Liberals do about pro-choice. Republicans will turn out in mass to take the house and senate. The Nate Silver models historically are 5-10 points off in favour of Democrats if I remember correctly.Tweet
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No we don't, that's just an archaic opinion you hold as ideal that lots of people don't.There is a wider issue of rape culture and promiscuity that leads to unwanted pregnancies and to some degree necessitates birth control. Again, it is up to us to fix that. We need, as a society, to stop promoting casual flings and Tinder-dates as being part of who we are as a people. We have to stress the importance and sanctity of settled relationships and building a family.
Because we've evolved past religious institutions governing how we live.It's anyone's guess as to why we don't do that anyway, especially when it is to everyone's benefit. We don't encourage people to smoke cigarettes and we limit alcohol advertising, so why don't we advise people, particularly at a young age, to get married and have a family. Instead we genuflect culturally to a kind of degrading hedonism that leaves people broken, mentally damaged, and isolated. Some of these people have to convince themselves, against inevitable doubts, that they were right to abort an unborn child that they had conceived and succoured, a life that relied exclusively on them and survived and existed only because of them.
I've been through 3 abortions to date and in all cases the women barely gave the aftermath a second thought. My girlfriend who is about to give birth to my son however is extremely susceptible to postnatal depression because of other underlying health issues.The level of mental trauma that must exist for doctors and mothers who go through abortions cannot be underestimated.
Damn, knew he was a D, didn’t know he was taking the piss.While it's true Trump has brought us into a post satire world, the proposal was by a democrat and was satirical in nature.
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-oklahoma-vasectomy-idUSL1N2YF24H
Not sure why you bring this up to me, that’s some way off giving your two cents. And if a woman’s in an abusive relationship or something I’m not saying those guys need to be involved in the decision. That’s what I meant by the qualifier "prerequisite", that they have the kind of relationship where it makes sense for them to be included in the discussion.Most abortions I know of where it's a relationship have been a result of the man "forcing" or strongly advocating a termination.
In two cases where the woman was hit in the stomach causing miscarriage. Both women wanted the baby but the man didn't. Both involved married blokes who had relationships with these women whilst married. One stayed with him, the other went to the police etc.
Now this would start a civil warSurely the solution is that all males are forced to undergo a reversible vasectomy at the onset of puberty that can be reversed when a married couple get permission to procreate?
Those are federal statutes. States have different language:@ExoduS You can only murder a person, and according to US law, from what I've just read, you're only a person if you've been born.
I'm probably going to very visited by the FBI for googling "what is the legal definition of murder" now...
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1111
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/1/8
Interesting thanks!Those are federal statutes. States have different language:
CA:
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(a) Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being, or a fetus, with malice aforethought.
Currently, at least 38 states have fetal homicide laws: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin.
https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fetal-homicide-state-laws.aspx
Controlling people, obviously.
If these people focused all this energy and money on something positive, imagine the impact they could have.
It's unfortunate that they are on the wrong side of this because their's is the determination you need to get things done. They have been campaigning for this ever since Roe.If these people focused all this energy and money on something positive, imagine the impact they could have.
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Under her eyeNow this would start a civil war
May the lord open (an abortion clinic)Under her eye
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Overturning Roe has been the goal for the right for decades.Usually i avoid posting in such threads because i dont know much about politics in other 3rd world countries but what are the chances that in minds of good portion of Americans, they see this whole abortion thing as revenge for covid vax or everything around covid, masks etc.
Who knows?Could they deny someone leaving the state for being pregnant though?
I don't usually judge a book by its cover, but that woman looks like a fecking psycho. Like some seemingly harmless but ultimately nightmarish villain from a Stephen King novel.Tweet
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My French is comme ci, comme ça. Can you give a translation? I think I get the main gist of it.Rafael Jacob is one of the top experts on American Affairs speaking to the news in Quebec-based news media. He wrote this a few hours ago.
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This is only a mere taste of the major clusterfeck that the SCOTUS decision has created and will create.
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The auto-translation on Twitter is decently accurate as well.My French is comme ci, comme ça. Can you give a translation? I think I get the main gist of it.
Bloody hell.
Oh i see, ok, just saw some lunatic trying to compare with "my body, my choice" mantra regarding covid, thats why i was wondering.Overturning Roe has been the goal for the right for decades.
They basically want to ban sex but have exceptions for procreation and rape.