How is Pep a sure thing without billions? Swap City for Southampton, let's see if he is a sure thing.
Brian Brobbey
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He was a sure thing because he was going to City with billions. And before that Bateyrn which has the monopoly on the German League.
We're maybe interfering in his transfer to Ajax so they drop their demands for Martinez or Antony. But if it was genuine interest then for sure he's got a plan for him.
I see people asking for Dybala, some brazilian guy or "youth", but have you considered that maybe he's looking for a very specific profile (strong target with solid play back to goal etc) as mere squad resource for certain situations or games, and nobody of these players you mention fit the profile?
Have we learnt nothing yet about signing popular names and then trying to shoehorn them into roles they don't dominate/don't have the needed tools for? If a manager considers that this kid can evolve here under his tenure into becoming a decent squad option in the future, who are we to deny it?
The funny thing is when he was signed everyone agreed about backing the coach, how the club shouldn't interefere with marketable signings in order to build a well functioning machine, and as soon the man starts making choices in fecking JUNE (just a pair of months after) everyone is here laughing at him and the player they haven't even watched 5 minutes. This place is a parody.
I see people asking for Dybala, some brazilian guy or "youth", but have you considered that maybe he's looking for a very specific profile (strong target with solid play back to goal etc) as mere squad resource for certain situations or games, and nobody of these players you mention fit the profile?
Have we learnt nothing yet about signing popular names and then trying to shoehorn them into roles they don't dominate/don't have the needed tools for? If a manager considers that this kid can evolve here under his tenure into becoming a decent squad option in the future, who are we to deny it?
The funny thing is when he was signed everyone agreed about backing the coach, how the club shouldn't interefere with marketable signings in order to build a well functioning machine, and as soon the man starts making choices in fecking JUNE (just a pair of months after) everyone is here laughing at him and the player they haven't even watched 5 minutes. This place is a parody.
Well said, these are the style of transfers that I think we need.
I have no doubt you getting Haller influenced his decision to move (or made it easier for Raiola to convince him to move).
A lot of players don't immediately agree to extension when the club opens negotiations. I don't see the relevance.
Only if he is any good.
Bit concerned we seem only to be looking at the relatively small pool of players Ten Hag knows well. Even if we pick well within this pool it isn't going to be optimal.
Bit concerned we seem only to be looking at the relatively small pool of players Ten Hag knows well. Even if we pick well within this pool it isn't going to be optimal.
Ultimately there would be nothing wrong with signing a young squad option at CF for relatively little money. It's not like we couldn't do with adding that profile of player and it's a fairly low-risk move. Who knows, we might even be getting in early on the sort of player Ajax would sell on for a big fee in a few years.
It's more that you'd want this to be a signing we make in addition to a more obvious first choice CF, particularly if Ronaldo is leaving. And thus far we're lacking in that regard. Until those concerns are addressed I think people will worry about a signing like this still leaving us short.
It's more that you'd want this to be a signing we make in addition to a more obvious first choice CF, particularly if Ronaldo is leaving. And thus far we're lacking in that regard. Until those concerns are addressed I think people will worry about a signing like this still leaving us short.
20 yo striker which has opportunity to develop under ETH. I think he is physically built to PL and can play with his back against a defender. Different profile striker to all the strikers that we have. Yes, not Utd standard now for sure. Who knows in 2-3 years, he could be our main striker. We don't need a skillful, we need someone who put the ball in the net.
Don't see him being any different to Broja, who people wanted. If you think Broja will get better, don't see how you can't say the same for Brobbey.
Does anyone think United might be fishing around BB as part of a way of putting pressure on Ajax in terms of Martinez and Antony?
Far fetched I know but would explain the sudden and unusual interest?
Far fetched I know but would explain the sudden and unusual interest?
He does too.
But it might damage the goodwill we have between Ajax and United.
Yeah, this is the kind of move where it may work and it may not. If Erik who’s worked plenty with him thinks he’ll kick on then he’d definitely know better than me. We need strikers both starters and backups right now.
He does play for them. And he'll continue to do so unless we do our usual trick of gazumping their bid buy him.
It's a credible threat to hold over Ajax, because Murtough has done it before, we need a striker and EtH has liked the player in the past. The mere possibility of ruining Ajax's transfer strategy is useful bargaining chip. We'll back off Brobbey if they accept a fair offer for Lisandro.
he was already pulling a raiola "stall until contract expires" move for a whole year before Haller was signed, with Brobbey only on 6 months remaining. It was already clear he wouldn't be extending at that point, just as has been the case with like 10 other Raiola clients at the clubs over this past 5-10 years
If Ten Hag and United want another CF/Striker. The best and realistic CF/Striker out there is.
Bayer Leverkusens Patrick Schick. Closest to a complete CF/Striker you can get out there at this current moment in football market.
There are 4 really good upcoming CF.
+ One join City = Haaland
+ One join Juventus = Dlahovic
+ One join Liverpool = Liverpool
+ Last one = Patrick Schick = just a matter of time, before a top club in Europe come and sign him up. Just of a matter of time. Bayer Leverkusen is not Schick last club.
Bayer Leverkusens Patrick Schick. Closest to a complete CF/Striker you can get out there at this current moment in football market.
There are 4 really good upcoming CF.
+ One join City = Haaland
+ One join Juventus = Dlahovic
+ One join Liverpool = Liverpool
+ Last one = Patrick Schick = just a matter of time, before a top club in Europe come and sign him up. Just of a matter of time. Bayer Leverkusen is not Schick last club.
Schick has just signed a new contract extension.
Yeah, that's fair.
What do you think of Mr Brobbey mate?
Apparently he’s shit at this
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Realistically if a club signs him its because they want that physical bodied player up front. A bit of speed, plenty of strength for body to body tussles and to be someone who can compete for the first ball in the air so you can retrieve the 2nd ball in an advanced area. These qualities arent bad, they just arent as exciting as a more skillful and technical player. Most likely coaches want both in their squad and its a matter of degrees. Even Pep has signed players like Bony with the idea of having that in the squad. Though obviously after signing him he didnt want him after.
I've seen people mention Lukaku but thats a bit unfair towards Lukaku. He was scoring in the europa league at 15/16 years old due to his speed and ability to be physical already at that age. When it comes to physical strikers like that Lukaku is a bit of a prodigy in that way. Whereas its far more common for a 19/20 year old to be making a breakthrough with their phsyical qualities.
I would say that if ETH has any interest in the player, we should simply keep an eye on him in the next few seasons to see if he can kick on and have a good goalscoring season as a main striker in a decent league. If he does thats when its time to give him a chance. Until then theres no reason to think that the finishing and an improved technical part is going to come to him.
I've seen people mention Lukaku but thats a bit unfair towards Lukaku. He was scoring in the europa league at 15/16 years old due to his speed and ability to be physical already at that age. When it comes to physical strikers like that Lukaku is a bit of a prodigy in that way. Whereas its far more common for a 19/20 year old to be making a breakthrough with their phsyical qualities.
I would say that if ETH has any interest in the player, we should simply keep an eye on him in the next few seasons to see if he can kick on and have a good goalscoring season as a main striker in a decent league. If he does thats when its time to give him a chance. Until then theres no reason to think that the finishing and an improved technical part is going to come to him.
Precisely and apparently can cover RW too until we can find middle ground with Ajax for Antony
Let him go to Ajax
I saw on a comment on his youtube highlights that he is like Yakubu? True? Yakubu in his pomp was pretty good
I'm sick of it Brobbey, when's it gonna end?!
How desperate we have become with Ronaldo's desire to leave, the mass exodus, and the lack of incomings that we have to look at signing Mr Brobby. His deeds, no doubt, will be guaranteed to stupefy. No shot will be too hot, he'll hit the spot.
I can't read the thread title without being instantly reminded of Talladega Nights and Will Ferrell.
It's quickly becoming a problem
It's quickly becoming a problem
I can’t wait for him to kick on and then you post about how we’re morons signing him for 60 million when we could have had him for 13.
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We're not signing him, thank god. Just Murtough mind games.
Reminds me of a league two striker in his ‘highlights’ compilation
Davis at Forrest is better and was garbage at Villa. But yeah he’d look good in the Lower leagues.
I agree in part with what you say, the problem I see with the part I highlight is that as soon as he has a good season anywhere his market value will get ridiculous and the competition could be wild.
Darwin Nunez scored 6 goals in 29 games in Portugal before this last season, suddenly one day he finds the scoring boots and gets 26 goals in 28 games this year (added to his goals in the CL). Look what Liverpool had to pay to sign him after one good season and despite the glaring holes in his overall game, partly because the forwards market is devoid.
As soon as something good appears on scene you have the big boys ready to pounce, like Scamacca linked with half of Europe after scoring 16 for Sassuolo in the league, coming from 8 (Genoa), and previously 9 (Ascoli in Serie B). They're not waiting to see if he replicates it next season or something, as soon as someone starts doing something he's set for a big transfer because of shortage.
I don't say it will be the same with Brobbey, but if ten Hag believes there's potential there to be unlocked and he can fit in whatever he wants to build, I'd rather us taking the risk now at 15M instead of paying well over the odds in two years because he's scored 50 goals in the dutch league, as if scoring goals there guaranteed us anything.
I'm not sure if people are aware of our position at the moment (hardly the most attractive project) added to how difficult is to find good strikers in general, even more if you try to find a specific mould and not simply "a good one", the circle gets ridiculously small. It doesn't mean we have to bet on Brobbey but I think trying would be justified.
In any case Luckhurst is reporting that "United expects Brobbey to join Ajax" so people here can celebrate. I hope it means there's been advances with Martinez or Antony.
Nunez was also top scorer in the division below la liga and then Benfica bought him for a high price based on that. Thats why he's expensive
It's true that Benfica paid a relatively expensive transfer (was it around 30M, or slightly more?) considering it was a second division player, but we go back again to my point, offer and demand.
In normal conditions you take a punt with a second division player and it's a reasonable one. I didn't follow his transfer to Benfica but if they had to pay around 30M I guess there was plenty of interest. As soon as something emerges on the surface in terms of strikers there's a fishermen battle.
Now let's see what we bring ourselves this summer if we sign something up front, but I wouldn't expect any fireworks in that case considering the circumstaces. I hope I'm wrong, of course.
Ideally both then FFS step away from Ajax
If these links are true, I’m a bit worried.
on one hand, we can see there is a pattern here. Ten Hag is only buying players he has worked with or played against / seen extensively. Which means we are only buying from the Eredivise. This is the Premier League, and there is a huge gulf in quality.
On the other hand, there is hope that once he starts managing in the PL, he’s going to see/scout players that he wants that will be PL/CL level. I guess that’s a good thing?
Still, not a great transfer window so far…
on one hand, we can see there is a pattern here. Ten Hag is only buying players he has worked with or played against / seen extensively. Which means we are only buying from the Eredivise. This is the Premier League, and there is a huge gulf in quality.
On the other hand, there is hope that once he starts managing in the PL, he’s going to see/scout players that he wants that will be PL/CL level. I guess that’s a good thing?
Still, not a great transfer window so far…
Hahaha
Now this is a cheap signing I would want United to make and when especially the manager wants him. This guy isn’t Bebe who only started playing professional football two months ago when Fergie mysteriously signed him