Crimson King
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I won't rate him until he breaks the Old Firm domination and wins a European trophy with Aberdeen!
Pep. Same way he did die Bundesliga. Why would it be anything else?What was so given about it? They weren't dominant pre pep.
I don't think some of you guys realise the impact he's had on their standing in the game. Any kid who was introduced to football in the last 6 years knows Man City as a household name, who play by far the best and most entertaining football in the Premier League.
In terms of sports washing the Abu Dhabi project, he's been massively influential not in terms of their dominance but the way they play as well.
This doesn’t really work though because you can say Pep would have 0 CL’s if it weren’t for horrendous ref decisions. Managers have won what they’ve won.Obvious success. SAF was 3 minutes and one JT slip from never winning the CL.
There’s so much luck involved there (unless you are Real Madrid), Pep built a ridiculously dominant machine and won 4 PL titles in 6 seasons so far.
Sure there’s room for criticism on how he handled some of the CL matches including the final but a failure? come on now.
Di Matteo did it with a shite Chelsea side.I'm pretty sure this thread was created when Pep left Bayern, asking the same question. My answer back then is the same as it is now, he was a success at Bayern and he's been a massive success at City. He might feel regret as not landing the CL but it's an extremely difficult thing to accomplish.
And he's been nowhere near even smelling the CL knockout stage ever again.Di Matteo did it with a shite Chelsea side.
I agree on KloppWhat Klopp has done at Liverpool to me is much more impressive. So I'd say partial success. He'll always have the cheque book manager tag until he does it at a club where he doesn't start with the fastest car in the race.
True but Drogba was basically Benzema in that run. One of the clutchest seasons ever.Di Matteo did it with a shite Chelsea side.
The second part isn't true, especially considering he was an artisan of the downfall of his team several times.He is a success and it would say nothing particular about his legacy.
They're a better run club than we ever were. I don't think they'll allow the club to fluctuate between poor and great the way Chelsea have been in the last 10 years. City will hire the right successor and still be up there as one of the top teams in Europe.Success. He's won four titles and established them as the best team in the country. Not winning the Champions League would obviously be a huge disappointment for him and City but it's not enough to make his time there a failure. I doubt anyone would consider Mourinho's first spell with Chelsea a failure because he didn't win the CL.
If they're anything like Chelsea they'll end up fluking a CL a few years after he leaves.
Surely that just shows its possible to fluke a Champions League? There's no way Di Matteo could have won the PLDi Matteo did it with a shite Chelsea side.
I'm still hopeful they balls it up somehow!They're a better run club than we ever were. I don't think they'll allow the club to fluctuate between poor and great the way Chelsea have been in the last 10 years. City will hire the right successor and still be up there as one of the top teams in Europe.
Why would the second part not be true? Currently I don't consider him as a great cup manager and I didn't when he left Bayern, so if he left City tomorrow his legacy would be the same.The second part isn't true, especially considering he was an artisan of the downfall of his team several times.
It will come when Pep leaves. I'd be shocked if they can replace him immediately and with the competition in the league, there will be no room to win it at a lower level than Pep established and there is no way anyone will match Pep's performances domestically.I'm still hopeful they balls it up somehow!