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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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One of these things is not like the other...
5/10 window.
Positives: Young, long-term signings in three key areas (CB, LB and RW). One of the best (if not the best) DMs in the world, Eriksen, another good passer and creator, on a free. Got rid of some money-draining mercenaries.
Negatives: Midfield still not fully sorted, CF not sorted at all, RB not sorted at all.
I would rate it a little but higher than that
Best DM in the world purchased
Creative midfielder added
Very exciting young RW added ( first right winger in years )
Solid CB that compliments one of our true world class CBs
LB with loads of potential that will link up well with our massive signing from last season who can now play his best position because we actually bought a RW
And got rid of a good chunk of players that were draining our squad.
Not complete I agree
But a solid 7 / 10 for me, we have definitely improved the squad .
Yep, our 4 main areas of concern were DM, CM, RB and CF. We got Casemiro, but maybe for 2-3 years. The other 3 areas still need major addressing.
Malacia, Martinez and Antony are very good signings in other key areas. RW, CB and LB would have been further down my priority list, but they are good signings. Eriksen is another #10, who is being experimented as a CM, and I'm wary about that. We still need a ball progressor, which was the key signing this team needed to let others flourish.
However we have overpaid massively, dithered and were horribly unplanned throughout the whole window, going for conflicting profiles, left it very late, and struggled to sell our deadwood. So I would say its a 5 or 6 out of 10 this window.
Okay, those are fair enough points. Though you could also make a case that once you've decided that a starting XI player basically doesn't fit the bill, it's not a great idea to keep him around. He'll bring the same shortcomings playing as a backup as he did as a starter, and he is also unlikely to be content or develop in such a reduced role. And is Williams really a much worse option? He had a fairly good PL campaign last season, though he seems to like best on the left. For that matter, if we're uncomfortable with him being no 2 at this stage, it's getting a bit hard to see why we're keeping him.
We’ve spent 200m and Eriksen/Martial are our most important players. I’ve liked every player we’ve brought in but it can’t be any higher than a 6/10 as it stands. We failed to get De Jong who is key for how ETH wants to play and the Ronaldo situation is totally unresolved.
That is harsh.
We have so many areas to sort out. Can't do it all in one window. We need to give him at least 3 windows but this is definitely on the right track. I am happy so far. Don't think there will be further in coming after Antony & Dubravka but can hope for some outgoing to clear the dead woods and give exposure to the youngsters on loan.
Thing is, we were never going to sort all of the below in one window. It's too much for any club and typically takes 2-3 summers. My issue with the summer spending is that I'm not sure that aside from Martinez how many players will help us play better possession football. Maybe Antony will help a bit as will Casemiero but I've felt that we need a playmaker in midfield for ages. Still, it's a decent summer albiet somewhat ruined by how late the business has been which has made sure we've lost ground already.
- DM
- Playmaking CM
- RB
-CF
- RW
- New GK
- Upgrade on broken CBs
- Upgrade on Shaw's lethargic ass
This usually comes out before deadline day so I’m assuming that’s that then. This bloke said we were signing 4-5 players last week.
Bs. Or better to say only if Ronaldo leaves. At this moment we have 6 forwards.
6 forwards but 2 strikers
I know I'm being greedy but please one more!
7 forwards if you include Antony
Surely you didn’t think we’d be signing 7 players?
I rate it higher than that, only reason I wouldn’t list it higher than a 7 is because centre midfield should of been more a priority and the pursuit of De Jong is absurd.
But you can't ship all players you dont want long-term unless you have a replacement short-term. No manager does that unless he has enough money to sign any player he wants (Mourinho in his first period at Chelsea). Managers need to prioritize and ETH probably felt there were areas he needed to strengthen more - or maybe he had 2-3 right-backs he would consider and none of them were available so he decided AWB and Dalot would have to suffice - and he looked at other areas first. Or maybe it's a question of ETH thinking that AWB isn't his ideal player but maybe he is not quite as bad as RR made him out to be.
Is Williams a much worse option ? For almost 2 seasons AWB was really good defensively....I have never felt Williams is really good defensively, so yes - he is much worse.
With Rashford as 3rd in case of emergency.
Some clubs (big clubs) don't even have two, but this bs journos are trying to sell story how we need 3. 3 proven strikers fighting for one spot.
That would be waste of money and wages. Not to mention that for manager it would be literally impossible to keep all 3 happy
Spot on. The only problem is one of our strikers has thrown his dody out of the pram. Hopefully he'll cop on now and start playing for Teny.
Rashford - shit 90% of the time.
Martial - injured 90% of the time.
Elanga - shit 95% of the time.
Sancho - still has question marks
CR7 - wants to leave, doesn't help the setup anyways
Antony - hopefully a world beater
So yeah, 3 are basically useless at this point in time.
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£25m. Wasn't it €50m for us a couple of days ago?
Yes. They rejected it as they want €50M which is £42M£25m. Wasn't it €50m for us a couple of days ago?
We could do a Malacia here, wait till the clubs agree a fee and bid slightly higher to close the deal. If ETH shares an agent, it would be easy to manipulate the player.
Reckon that's us done this window, bar a few more departures.
If we'd had our signings in by the start of the season I'd rate it mush higher. It's been chaotic and trigger-happy, but I think we've brought the right players in.
Still some gaping areas, but we weren't fixing everything in one window.
If we'd had our signings in by the start of the season I'd rate it mush higher. It's been chaotic and trigger-happy, but I think we've brought the right players in.
Still some gaping areas, but we weren't fixing everything in one window.
we should easily bring up these £25m. great to see PSV giving out discounts on their player
It literally got rejected.They want €50M
But they are here. I disagree with your description of them but even if we have 6 completely useless attackers we are paying them. You can't just buy new players on position where you have 2 options (no matter how shit or useless they are) without selling.
"Dutch club holding out for £25m".
Right players is the word...
Many times we bring in players to fix the holes and ended up with a worse team and struggling to offload these.
If new players are all good enough, we can finally move forward with the overhaul.
There is a tweet somewhere, I’ll see if I can find it, that states rhat they still want €50M
OK, you make a fair case there.
that's what they wanted from us, if I'm not wrong. could also be that the €50M also stand there for the saints, but in this tweet, the 25M are stated
Phil Jones and Bailly have been here but that didn't stop us from buying CBs. Why can't we do the same for attackers?
Defenders are completely different thing. Plus Jones and Bailly were/are finished in this club (plan was to sell Bailly which we did in some way).
Use some common sense. We go and spend another 50 mil on new attacker. You have 3 attackers, on big wages, fighting for one (!!) spot.
And we are not even in CL so PL is what is important this year.
How do you expect that that would work for ETH? We have already a "problem" how Ronaldo will accept bench/rotation. This is not FM, ffs. Hell, even in FM you can't have 3 strikers in team (unless one of them is perfectly happy with being 3rd option and playing then and there).
I can understand if we're not able to go for Osimen after spending so much on Antony, but we absolutely need a striker. Going without signing one is not an option. We have no depth there and there's no chance Ronaldo is staying imo. We'll sell him late when he finally lowers his wage demands to get the move. No chance he'll accept being our backup striker for the season.
Well at least you arent exaggerating
Maybe I'm not.
We are definitely not buying a striker if CR7 stays. If that was a point you were trying to make, then I agree.
I swear, we are most spoiled fans in PL.
1) We want 11 world class players in first 11. "Oh no, we have Dalot and De Gea starting. We don't have any chance this season".
2) We want 2 high quality players on every position. For some positions, even 3 (just in case of plague).
3) 27y old is high limit for players bought. "Casemiro is 30. In 3(!!) years we will again need to spend on defensive midfielder."
Meanwhile; "Give youth a chance!".
1) We want 11 world class players in first 11. "Oh no, we have Dalot and De Gea starting. We don't have any chance this season".
2) We want 2 high quality players on every position. For some positions, even 3 (just in case of plague).
3) 27y old is high limit for players bought. "Casemiro is 30. In 3(!!) years we will again need to spend on defensive midfielder."
Meanwhile; "Give youth a chance!".
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