Sir Jim Ratcliffe: I want to buy Manchester United | Will make a bid for the club [Telegraph]

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The stock price just popped some huge volume. The price jumped up while the whole market is dumping downwards in a big way.

Somethings happening and someone knows something.
 

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The stock price just popped some huge volume. The price jumped up while the whole market is dumping downwards in a big way.

Somethings happening and someone knows something.
An exciting summer window this has been.
 

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Ratcliffe is a fecking parasite as well. No idea why any of you would be excited by this prospect.
 

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This is more exciting than any signings! :):drool::devil:
So just to be clear, here is todays price action on the stock. The market has been hammered today, everything is red, but someone has been accumulating Man Utd all day. We’re particularly interested in the big green candles and the big green bars at the bottom, they show someone was buying with large volume, something that’s pretty uncommon on the Man Utd stock. The smaller red and green candles at the bottom of the image show normal trading volume.

 

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So just to be clear, here is todays price action on the stock. The market has been hammered today, everything is red, but someone has been accumulating Man Utd all day. We’re particularly interested in the big green candles and the big green bars at the bottom, they show someone was buying with large volume, something that’s pretty uncommon on the Man Utd stock. The smaller red and green candles at the bottom of the image show normal trading volume.

This is getting me giddy. Man Utd shares just make no sense in terms of ROI. Something suspect is happening.

Really appreciate the analysis/post on this, Crossy! :devil:
 
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Everything means they're about to sell, chaper 46, volume 15. Whipping people into believing the clubs sale is imminent has been a lucrative business for about fifteen years

We don't spend- must mean they're going to sell

We spend big - they're selling

We refinance - must be because they have a buyer

We don't refinance- calm before storm, bid incoming


We win - they'll want to go out on top

we lose - they will cut their loses


It's Thursday - they must be looking for a buyer


Every move, fluctuation or period of nothingness is always sure fire sign they'll sell. For nearly two fecking decades
 
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Billionaires aren't like us. They don't think "feck if I sold up I could move to the Bahamas buy a yacht and just sit on beach all day" because they do that anyway.

The Glazers aren't going anywhere and that's been clear for years. Ownership of the club and the doors the will open over many years is far more valuable than £4bn in bank and someone suggesting they go on the piss to Magaluf because they're minted. They're not going to sell so they can act like some lads on tour tossers whose rich aunt just died.


Billionaire aren't so taken aback by their wealth as we are that they'll sell up and live like a lottery winner. That's why companies aren't sold every five minutes. They don't think "feck me, imagine how many Benson I could buy with this"
 

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What, you think the Glazers want the club to fail? Not sure you've thought this through...
They clearly don’t have the ambition to do what needs to be done. That’s been proven. Their primary concern is financial.
 

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If anything it’ll be a consortium that buys the club, it’s far too much for an individual to take on. I suspect Ratcliffe would be the majority share holder though if the deal were successful.
 

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It most likely means that someone is privy to something that's going to happen in the next couple of days. Most likely to do with the sale of the club.
Doesn't this count as insider trading? And isn't that illegal?
 

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Doesn't this count as insider trading? And isn't that illegal?
Yep, but prove it, that's the hard part. Nancy Pelosi, a member of America's congress made $62m last year in stocks. Her return rate beats the entire market and all hedge funds. She might be the most successful trader of all time in regards to success rate and return % based on stake.

Is a woman who is privy to all upcoming congress bills and potential law changes insider trading? Apparently not, as it's her husband who trades on her behalf and they don't discuss stocks at home, so case closed, nothing to see here.
 

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Everything means they're about to sell, chaper 46, volume 15. Whipping people into believing the clubs sale is imminent has been a lucrative business for about fifteen years

We don't spend- must mean they're going to sell

We spend big - they're selling

We refinance - must be because they have a buyer

We don't refinance- calm before storm, bid incoming


We win - they'll want to go out on top

we lose - they will cut their loses


It's Thursday - they must be looking for a buyer


Every move, fluctuation or period of nothingness is always sure fire sign they'll sell. For nearly two fecking decades
I'd love if they sold, only for your constant tirades to stop and you end up with an egg on your face.

The volume point is completely legit - the daily was 1 million, compared to a 3-month average of 670k which is nothing to sniff at but also not colossal. And people should not expect anything to happen right away if this is a flag an insider knows something - it can take weeks or could be because someone knows we're signing a new sponsor.
 

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Yep, but prove it, that's the hard part. Nancy Pelosi, a member of America's congress made $62m last year in stocks. Her return rate beats the entire market and all hedge funds. She might be the most successful trader of all time in regards to success rate and return % based on stake.

Is a woman who is privy to all upcoming congress bills and potential law changes insider trading? Apparently not, as it's her husband who trades on her behalf and they don't discuss stocks at home, so case closed, nothing to see here.
Is this right? Feck sake. And to think I actually had a lot of respect for her.
 

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Billionaires aren't like us. They don't think "feck if I sold up I could move to the Bahamas buy a yacht and just sit on beach all day" because they do that anyway.

The Glazers aren't going anywhere and that's been clear for years. Ownership of the club and the doors the will open over many years is far more valuable than £4bn in bank and someone suggesting they go on the piss to Magaluf because they're minted. They're not going to sell so they can act like some lads on tour tossers whose rich aunt just died.


Billionaire aren't so taken aback by their wealth as we are that they'll sell up and live like a lottery winner. That's why companies aren't sold every five minutes. They don't think "feck me, imagine how many Benson I could buy with this"
Your logic mostly applies if the companies are profitable and showing promising signs of organic growth no? Utd are neither revenue has declined/slowed down massively and the amount of money needed to invest all across units from infrastructure to first team to get Utd's value to be on the rise is beyond what The Glazers can afford without taking out a loan or dipping into their own pockets something they'll never do because Utd can't grow organically anymore without investment. Protests this time are also more consistent(there's one organized for the Arsenal game and the plan is for protests to happen for all or majority of the home games) so things aren't as smooth sailing
They may not sell immediately but they won't be Man Utd owner in the next 3-5yrs(hopefully sooner if Sir Jim firms his interest up) I'm 1000000% sure of that
 

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Do you need to obtain something like 25% stockholding in order to have to make an offer to other shareholders?
Pretty sure we don't even have 25% of the float traded of the total, let alone 25% of voting rights shares

Is this right? Feck sake. And to think I actually had a lot of respect for her.
If you're from the US and are sleeping on this, I don't know what to say. She also blocked the bill banning trading by members of the US Senate and House. All so obvious example of the selfish greedy boomer
 

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So just to be clear, here is todays price action on the stock. The market has been hammered today, everything is red, but someone has been accumulating Man Utd all day. We’re particularly interested in the big green candles and the big green bars at the bottom, they show someone was buying with large volume, something that’s pretty uncommon on the Man Utd stock. The smaller red and green candles at the bottom of the image show normal trading volume.

Interesting. What is the daily volume compared to the average, do you know?
 

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I'd love if they sold, only for your constant tirades to stop and you end up with an egg on your face.
Hear hear.

His tirades are without foundation. I don't mind someone okaying devil's advocate but please, back up what you are claiming!
 

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Its all B stock on NYSE ? Its basically irrelevant anyway ?
Yeah it's worthless, the people buying it aren't buying it because they want to own the club, they're buying it because they think it's going to make a big move upwards soon, most likely because they know something is about to happen that's a positive catalyst for the stock and they will sell on that news. In our case that would be the Glazer's selling part or all of their stake, or we're signing Messi?