Queen Elizabeth II | 1926-2022 | Rest in Peace

[LARulz]

I’m personally enjoying how upsetting it is for many of y’all.

See I am no royalist, in fact far from it, but to ignore how momentous this moment is ridiculous

She has been alive for as long as the cast majority of the world can remember. She is synonymous with the UK and in general anything Royal - she is the first Royal people think of from any country

She has, as far as people are concerned, been a great Queen in terms of trying to connect with people and kept with the times. She is all most people know so it's weird to think we no longer have the Queen to look to but Charles who has been mocked and had controversy attached to his name

A comment I saw elsewhere described her perfectly, she is essentially a spiritual grandmother. Whether we liked her or not, or even realised it, there was something comforting about her

Edit: I may missed the context if you are saying it's upsetting for people who are 'happy' she is dead

 

[Carolina Red]

See I am no royalist, in fact far from it, but to ignore how momentous this moment is ridiculous

Yeah, I know. That’s why I’m enjoying watching people losing their shit like it shouldn’t be.

 

[2mufc0]

See I am no royalist, in fact far from it, but to ignore how momentous this moment is ridiculous

She has been alive for as long as the cast majority of the world can remember. She is synonymous with the UK and in general anything Royal - she is the first Royal people think of from any country

She has, as far as people are concerned, been a great Queen in terms of trying to connect with people and kept with the times. She is all most people know so it's weird to think we no longer have the Queen to look to but Charles who has been mocked and had controversy attached to his name

A comment I saw elsewhere described her perfectly, she is essentially a spiritual grandmother. Whether we liked her or not, or even realised it, there was something comforting about her

Edit: I may missed the context if you are saying it's upsetting for people who are 'happy' she is dead

This sounds like a really 'heat of the moment' emotional response. Once the media frenzy is over people will get on with their lives like nothings changed.

 

[Rightnr]

The death of the queen for most of the population is what Fergie retiring from United was for us United fans.

We'd only ever known him as our manager - he WAS the job. And he was also very successful, similarly to how Elizabeth is perceived domestically.

Having said all that, the BBC and other media will blow this way out of proportion for no reason whatsoever than to satisfy their lust for drama (meaning money for the private channels).

 

[Carolina Red]

Edit: I may missed the context if you are saying it's upsetting for people who are 'happy' she is dead

Yes. Those are the ones I’m getting a kick out of watching

 

[Pronewbie]

@Hansi Fick spending half his posts wumming but then finally getting banned for saying something most of the caf probably agree with.

Too sensitive a topic probably, at least for the mods..

 

[TheNewEra]

Not sure where I stand on it. I was born in England to irish parents and have alot of family members that couldn't stand the monarchy. My dad's father and my mother however loved the queen and everything she stood for and despite myself growing up so liberal i can't help but admire the queen.

In my teens I didn't understand the Monarchy in full but as I got older I appreciated everything about the monarchy for me the Queen literally gave her life for public service.

For 70 years as sovereign she wasn't allowed to show emotion and had to literally embody being stoic and going to literally daily state visits, read letters daily for hours, in servitude.

Address an entire nation, consider commonwealth, politics. I think her life was not easy and of course I have huge respect for what she did, feels weird she won't be there now but after Philip and after her starting to look very frail it was a matter of time.

She of course will be remembered by millions and for me it's her and David Attenborough I didn't want to lose because I think for Britain they are icons and I will always remember today, as I did 9/11 as major events in my lifetime.

Very sad.

 

[nimic]

I’m enjoying watching the angsty folks who are upset that people are honoring the queen. Longest reigning monarch in UK history, of course folks are gonna come out and experience that kind of historical event.

Of course you're a closet royalist, your state is named after King Charles. I bet your ancestors were Loyalists too.

 

[Don't Kill Bill]

I’m enjoying watching the angsty folks who are upset that people are honoring the queen. Longest reigning monarch in UK history, of course folks are gonna come out and experience that kind of historical event.

Ah, I see...

This is awkward now because I don't know whether it is still Ok to enjoy the Trump nonsense.

 

[VanHaal'sRedArmy]

So I assume y'all going to continue this constitutional monarchy experiment?

 

[Scarlett Dracarys]

This is like a Trump rally with better manners.

Yep no pussy grabbing allowed.

 

[Carolina Red]

Of course you're a closet royalist, your state is named after King Charles. I bet your ancestors were Loyalists too.

Actually, yes, on my mom’s side.

 

[Carolina Red]

Ah, I see...

This is awkward now because I don't know whether it is still Ok to enjoy the Trump nonsense.

 

[Fully Fledged]

I personally considering protecting sex offenders to be quite offensive, but each to their own

A parents love is unconditional. The Tories could have revoked his diplomatic status but they didn't.

 

[Chief123]

Comments like this?



Some of the comments have been shocking, Hansi Flick style of comments. Comments questioning the over the top responses from people saying that she was one of the greatest people to every live are not shocking. There's nothing disrespectful about asking why this event, out of all the others affecting the world right now, is being treated like the worst story to happen in recent months.

Millions of people in this country are living in actual POVERTY, but this is more important than that to some people. Says a lot about them.

And then there’s people like me wondering whether I should be taking hits for transfers when there might not be any games this week.

 

[oates]

So I assume y'all going to continue this constitutional monarchy experiment?

I would think that whilst not celebrating the woman's death it will have brought us closer towards the end than the beginning of this 'experiment'.

 

[giggs-beckham]

Huge moment for the nation. The world really. I know we all joke but this will be remembered as one of the most important moments in the 21st Century

Of course it is. Not a royalist but it's a big day what a legend

 

[Chief123]

People are more upset that someone got banner for making vile comments than the death of an actual human being. I guess it's the new world we live in nowdays.

Stop being a sweaty old tart and acting so melodramatic.

 

[nimic]

Actually, yes, on my mom’s side.

That's much cooler than pretending everyone was a patriot.

 

[entropy]

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[LARulz]

This sounds like a really 'heat of the moment' emotional response. Once the media frenzy is over people will get on with their lives like nothings changed.

Yes but that's.... Normal? Life moves on. But this day/time period will be remembered for ages. And not just by a small few but quite a lot of people. Of course not to the same effect as it is now but they will remember - it is historic

Life moves on and that's natural, but to say or suggest people will forget about it is not true. It's not like a sports person dying, it's someone who almost the whole world has grown up knowing (for good or bad)

 

[giggs-beckham]

I'm sorry but how exactly? The sun will come up tomorrow, you'll still have Brexit and those Tory pricks in govt. Literally nothing will change.

He didn't say anything meaningful would change. When Jfk died and Diana the world kept turning. As it will when every human is long but dust. Doesn't make it not a significant day.

 

[Moby]

People are more upset that someone got banner for making vile comments than the death of an actual human being. I guess it's the new world we live in nowdays.

You wanna talk about death of actual human beings?

 

[Frosty]

Y’all have reincarnated Charles I?

With the way it ended for him? I hope so...

 

[MoskvaRed]

I don't know if you are aware but you are incorrect in as much as the Queen has always had the opportunity to change Acts of Parliament in favour of herself and family, particularly in ensuring new Tax adjustments are made in her favour and exempted. That sort of thing for starters is 'real power' over the serfs.

Sure but Her Maj saving a bit of tax amounts to pennies compared to the Chicago School/Thatcherite reshaping of the UK economy over the last 40 Years. It’s a bit like blaming the (admittedly ridiculous) Phil Jones contract for United being useless.

 

[Fully Fledged]

I suppose I mean the situation, rather than the speech. That such an anti-monarchy person would become PM just days before the Queen dies.

You do realise that she is a right wing tory now so completely a monarchist.

 

[Scarlett Dracarys]

You wanna talk about death of actual human beings?

Oh snap let's go.

 

[giggs-beckham]

I just don’t want Charles’ face on the money. He’s an ugly cnut.

Great there's me paying my respects tonight and now I'm posting this!

 

[2mufc0]

Yes but that's.... Normal? Life moves on. But this day/time period will be remembered for ages. And not just by a small few but quite a lot of people. Of course not to the same effect as it is now but they will remember - it is historic

Life moves on and that's natural, but to say or suggest people will forget about it is not true. It's not like a sports person dying, it's someone who almost the whole world has grown up knowing (for good or bad)

Whether she was alive or dead it has no tangible or practical impact on 99% of people's lives. Most people are worried about the cost of living and energy prices rising. She's just another famous person who has died and will be remembered in the history books because of it.

 

[Chief123]

@Hansi Fick spending half his posts wumming but then finally getting banned for saying something most of the caf probably agree with.

I’m surprised he got banned on a non-footballing matter considering his footballing views are more often than not utter bollocks.

He reminds me of Steve Irwin who played with lions all his life and got killed by a stingray.

 

[giggs-beckham]

feck sake. What an appalling post.

I hope someone bans this bastard.

Has he been banned?

 

[Wibble]

I’m enjoying watching the angsty folks who are upset that people are honoring the queen. Longest reigning monarch in UK history, of course folks are gonna come out and experience that kind of historical event.

I'm not at all surprised or upset no matter how odd I find it. Since living through the VE day scale celebrations after the Falklands War, which I found quite disturbing, and the death of Diana, which was close to mass hysteria, nothing about Brits celebrating being ruled by hereditary toffs will surprise me. Although to be fair if you do want that system of government the Queen wasn't as bad as it could have been.

 

[oates]

Sure but Her Maj saving a bit of tax amounts to pennies compared to the Chicago School/Thatcherite reshaping of the UK economy over the last 40 Years. It’s a bit like blaming the (admittedly ridiculous) Phil Jones contract for United being useless.

The Queen was a very rich woman whose estate will pay no Death Taxes, that is more than just a few pennies.

Don't get me started on Thatcher, besides - not the topic and a different layer of corruption, not greater, not lesser.

 

[Dumbstar]

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Wow, I never thought I would have anything in common with the Eiffel Tower.

 

[LARulz]

Whether she was alive or dead it has no tangible or practical impact on 99% of people's lives. Most people are worried about the cost of living and energy prices rising. She's just another famous person who has died and will be remembered in the history books because of it.

Obviously day to day life has to go on and nobody is arguing that. I am arguing that that this is a big moment in history. It doesn't change people's lives in most places in a few months time other than "it's weird to see Charles do Christmas speech"

But her death, as of today and then next 10 days it's a big moment because that's all people will see - especially in the UK.

Also as for impact, yeah maybe nothing really in the UK will be impacted long term except singing 'God save the King' but the commonwealth who have Queen head of state may be thinking it's time to stop that

Ultimately I am not saying this will have an impact on people's lives long term, but it is a big moment in history and it's no surprise people are feeling whatever they are

Just because people feel sad or whatever doesn't mean they think it impacts their day to day life

 

[giggs-beckham]

This place is just out of reality. Got people who were arguing with me when i posted this is a momentous moment in our lifetimes.
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They're a boiling pot of negative piss

 

[Wibble]

feck sake. What an appalling post.

I hope someone bans this bastard.

Was he really banned for that comment?

would be a fecking travesty if its a perm ban for that

He wasn't banned for that comment being anti-royal but he was given a warning for the good riddance bit and not for the anti-royal bit. He is temp banned because this latest warning again tipped him over into a second temporary ban. And it wasn't anything to do with the nationality of the mod who gave the warning.

 

[Carolina Red]

That's much cooler than pretending everyone was a patriot.

Yeah, I always try to convey to my students that lots of folks remained loyal to the crown when I teach US History. Sadly, loads more folks do believe that everyone rebelled.

 

[2mufc0]

Obviously day to day life has to go on and nobody is arguing that. I am arguing that that this is a big moment in history. It doesn't change people's lives in most places in a few months time other than "it's weird to see Charles do Christmas speech"

But her death, as of today and then next 10 days it's a big moment because that's all people will see - especially in the UK.

Also as for impact, yeah maybe nothing really in the UK will be impacted long term except singing 'God save the King' but the commonwealth who have Queen head of state may be thinking it's time to stop that

Ultimately I am not saying this will have an impact on people's lives long term, but it is a big moment in history and it's no surprise people are feeling whatever they are

Just because people feel sad or whatever doesn't mean they think it impacts their day to day life

I mean if you're a royalist it will be a big moment in history. For most it's just another famous person dying (admittedly she ranks quite high in terms of fame).

The same way Michael Jackson fans consider his death a big moment in history.

Atleast with the latter you can still experience his legacy through his music.

 

[Stookie]

The new national anthem will take some getting used to. Unless they change it to something completely different.