The debate will never end, even when both of them retire. Just like Pelé and Maradona, people will run in circles, using any possible argument to prove that their preferred player is better than other. By the way:
I can remember a video I posted by a guy who compared all their stats and then referenced all the prolific managers, players and pundits on asked who was better. And then when he removed players who had played with or managed either of them it was still around 90% in favour of Messi. But anyway this just goes in circles.
It is possible to overperform xG (accurate long shots) while still missing chances, and I agree with IFC that Mbappe misses a decent amount of 1v1s.
His curled long shots are absolutely ace though, might be the best in the world currently at that.
All players do. Mbappé did miss a couple of extra 1v1 since the beginning of the season but it's pretty unusual for him, his conversion rate is normally very high.
Zico and Platini are still legends, and remembered.
People with little football knowledge , maybe. Any other football fan knows who they are and what they did.
You are misunderstanding me. Nobody directly compares them anymore with Maradona like they did in the 80s. Maradona has grown past that, Messi’s status and aura will grow past Ronaldo’s.
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.How many he’s behind now? Probably the main reason why Ronaldo lost the plot completely.I really, really hope he gets the most goals in CL record
8.
I think it’s more than 8.
It’s 140 to 129 now.
I don't know, the other 2 are all timers and even then it was clear who the better player was, it wasn't particularly close so not at all similar with the Messi Ronaldo rivalry.
Yep, they are about the same as Sheriff for us.
Last season was very very different for Messi.He left Barcelona after spending 22 years? there. In addition, the manner in which he had to leave, no pre season, niggling injuries and frequent international breaks meant that for a player aged 34, it was a difficult debut season. Was way below the level we are used to from him.
The difference in all round play between Messi and Ronaldo is huge and always has been.
Jealous aren't we
Getting too close for comfort. I reckon he overtakes him in that. Either way he is clearly the better player.
A lot will depend of where he will play next season tbh.
Reckon Messi has 2 or 3 seasons left in him yet at the top level. His G/A record this season is like normal service resumed after a dodgy season last year.
11 to tie, 12 to overtake I think.
I thought Ronnie was on 141, no?
and thirty games less. Goat vs great goal scorer.
Yeah. It’s not Omonia though
I’m not so sure about that, it seemed very close to me until 1986. If Zico had won the world cup in 82 maybe the history books would look differently.
Maradona was 15 in 1976. He didn’t even make it to the 1978 WC.
