Sunny Jim
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I recommend watching this clip from Togo. Some solid since showes that penalties are unfair
That or stupid handball technicalities. A small percentage are conceded in the actual obstruction of a clear shot on goal, which is the punishment.
Yeah they should just give penalties for those and downgrade the bullshit handballs and trips on players just in crossing positions etc to a direct free kick. That would be quite cool.That or stupid handball technicalities. A small percentage are conceded in the actual obstruction of a clear shot on goal, which is the punishment.
I recommend watching this clip from Togo. Some solid since showes that penalties are unfair
If you ever wondered whether or not it's a good idea to concede a penalty, it's useful vid.Jesus that’s a right load of crap isn’t it
Kinda. Still reckon the dictionary sums it up more succinctly, personally.If you ever wondered whether or not it's a good idea to concede a penalty, it's useful vid.
50/50 ? No, it was never meant to be that way, since there is a foul in the box.Should penalties be reformed?
At the moment goalies cannot move off their line until the ball has been struck, technically they're not to ever come off the line. Whereas the penalty taker can take as long as he wants and have a fancy run up and even stop mid run, see where the goalie is going to dive and then strike the ball.
This puts the advantage fully in the favour of the taker, where a penalty kick should be 50/50.
Should penalties be reformed in this regard? I'd go as far as saying that once a run up has started you cannot stop and you have to strike the ball. Would make things much more 50/50 and fair.
There will be too much bad decisions and controversies. The box is arbitrary yes but not that stupid since you are close to the goal.Penalties are the most stupid thing ever. 1mm inside the box and a foul is a penalty, in what world does this make any sense.
It would make sense for a penalty to be awarded only when there is a foul in a clear goal scoring opportunity.
If the last defender fouls a player who should be through on goal then penalty (even outside the box , yellow instead of red card), free kick for everything else (even inside the box).
The advantage is supposed to be with the taker.Should penalties be reformed?
At the moment goalies cannot move off their line until the ball has been struck, technically they're not to ever come off the line. Whereas the penalty taker can take as long as he wants and have a fancy run up and even stop mid run, see where the goalie is going to dive and then strike the ball.
This puts the advantage fully in the favour of the taker, where a penalty kick should be 50/50.
Should penalties be reformed in this regard? I'd go as far as saying that once a run up has started you cannot stop and you have to strike the ball. Would make things much more 50/50 and fair.
Agreed. Although maybe when a match goes to penalties, that's a different thing? Maybe should be like a 1 on 1 and the keeper can come off his line the minute the attacker enters the box?50/50 ? No, it was never meant to be that way, since there is a foul in the box.
if we want to make it 50/50, we should just throw a coin.
Can you tell me how you would enforce this rule, noting the fact that xG is an atrocious metric.I think it's an interesting idea due to the fact I dislike the stuttering run up (which I feel gives the taker an even greater advantage) and it's why I'm more than happy for keepers like Dibu Martinez to act like a cnut.
I understand it's called a "Penalty" but if you get awarded a penalty from a 0.01xg (striker facing away from goal edge of the box, shove in the back) situation a 75% chance of a goal from the penalty spot (if the above stats are correct) seems a little unfair to the opposition.
I don't really care if it changes because it's something I've grown up with but if the sport was created tomorrow I would argue against a penalty for low xg fouls in the box.
Should penalties be reformed?
At the moment goalies cannot move off their line until the ball has been struck, technically they're not to ever come off the line. Whereas the penalty taker can take as long as he wants and have a fancy run up and even stop mid run, see where the goalie is going to dive and then strike the ball.
This puts the advantage fully in the favour of the taker, where a penalty kick should be 50/50.
Should penalties be reformed in this regard? I'd go as far as saying that once a run up has started you cannot stop and you have to strike the ball. Would make things much more 50/50 and fair.
Can you tell me how you would enforce this rule, noting the fact that xG is an atrocious metric.
I recommend watching this clip from Togo. Some solid since showes that penalties are unfair
Why should a penalty be 50/50 ? Your initial reasoning is wrong IMHO. It's a penatly after all, you're meant to be shaftedShould penalties be reformed?
At the moment goalies cannot move off their line until the ball has been struck, technically they're not to ever come off the line. Whereas the penalty taker can take as long as he wants and have a fancy run up and even stop mid run, see where the goalie is going to dive and then strike the ball.
This puts the advantage fully in the favour of the taker, where a penalty kick should be 50/50.
Should penalties be reformed in this regard? I'd go as far as saying that once a run up has started you cannot stop and you have to strike the ball. Would make things much more 50/50 and fair.
Personally, I think the aspect of pens that needs to be reformed is the awards of the pen. It's infuriating when a soft challenge at the bottom left corner of the penalty box when there's 5 players around you leads to an award of a high probability strike at goal.
A fix is maybe to have a secondary zone in which fouls within lead to a pen but not the whole current pen area...
Note that I haven't thought of all the implications of this so it might be downright dumb, but I always hated soft pens (E.G. the kane ones where someone jumps over the back of him on the pen area line).
Seems correctSince the opposition took away the clear advantage by fouling and creating the penalty, penalties should rightly favor the penalty taker and not try to make it 50/50.
Player starts at 16 meter line at any angle he chooses.
Goalkeeper starts at goal line and can move forward.
Player has up to 6 meters advantage.
Whistle blows. Whatever happens, happens.
Would be more fun at least. None of that nonsense runup.
Why do penalties need to be fair? their whole purpose is to give the attacking team a chance at scoring because a foul was used to stop a goal scoring chance.Should penalties be reformed?
At the moment goalies cannot move off their line until the ball has been struck, technically they're not to ever come off the line. Whereas the penalty taker can take as long as he wants and have a fancy run up and even stop mid run, see where the goalie is going to dive and then strike the ball.
This puts the advantage fully in the favour of the taker, where a penalty kick should be 50/50.
Should penalties be reformed in this regard? I'd go as far as saying that once a run up has started you cannot stop and you have to strike the ball. Would make things much more 50/50 and fair.
Or simply book ruthlessly any time waster or cnutsWhat annoys me is the defending teams and, in particular, goalkeepers using delaying tactics to put off the penalty taker. The referee should be allowed to indicate that the penalty will be taken in 10 seconds. If the goalkeeper/defenders are not ready/in position and the kicker scores, tough. If the kicker doesn't score, the penalty should be retaken.
That would be a lot more interesting. I dare say a few players would stop flopping every time they're in the box if they're rubbish at taking penalties.I'd like to see it be like a free-throw in basketball, where the player who is fouled (or who forced the defensive handball) should have to take the penalty.
The penalties should be taken like they do in ice hockey.