Right. Then the actual point made by the player is silly. The point made by Simon, different from that made by the player, is ok. I agree with that.
Eric Bailly - English players were favoured
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Was it really an issue of one specific player being played? One could suggest we’d never pay as much for someone as limited as AWB if he wasn’t English. Shaw is another story.
I think we paid as much for AWB because we made that stupid mistake of buying from English clubs an English player, yes. They come at a premium because English clubs have a lot of money and all PL clubs need to have a certain number of English players. I am of the opinion we should never buy an English player unless he is truly exceptional, like a Rooney or Ferdinand. The quota of English players should be mostly made up by academy players and then buy value for quality foreigners.
That is not impossible at all.
But then again, both Ole and Phelan come from the same place in terms of obvious influences: they both (presumably) learned a lot from a certain great manager - and they both (probably, likely) look at the way that manager assembled his teams as something of an ideal to strive for.
So, if Phelan pushed for it - my guess is that Ole would go along with it readily enough.
And - again - it is not a stupid idea in itself.
Is that true now, though? I mean most of the biggest signings, in terms of transfer fees, have actually been foreign players - we just shelled out €100m for Antony and €65m (or something like that) for Martinez. These are massive sums.
Barcelona have so many I can't even be bothered to list, but none of them have lived up to expectations. Real Madrid just shelled out €100m for Tchouameni.
It isn't particularly foreign players who are cheap; it is players who are next to unknown. Vardy - £1m ; Robertson (I know he is Scottish, but still makes the point) - £8m etc. These type of players do exist in the UK also.
Sometime yes, sometimes no. Exceptional talent costs a lot. English mediocre talent costs too much every time for the reasons I wrote.
Oh I quite agree.
It was a strategy that didn’t last very long though. Maybe someone on the board noticed that we were paying a huge English premium which wasn’t sustainable.
Ole had little alternatives. The recruitment team was pathetic
Since he obviously meant Maguire, he should have had the balls to namedrop him
Haha, your math skills are also an interesting opinion. Ole is 1. Ragnick is 2.
Math skills?
Rangnick took over from Solskjaer and was manager for most of last season mate. No idea why you are counting Carrick's 3 games in a week as caretaker.
But having said that of those 3 games Carrick only played Bailly once so he didn't seem to trust him all that much either so...
Absolute fecking buffoon of a player.
Wouldn't be surprised if he also injured himself getting sent off.
Wouldn't be surprised if he also injured himself getting sent off.
Classic Bailly challenge
Forgot about him.
What an idiot
Never fails to entertain.
And then he wonders why he is never trusted as a starter during the rare time he’s not injured. Such a waste of talent.
How’s he doing otherwise?
Was just looking that up myself - he’s started 3 league games for them. Assuming he’s had injuries.
Christ. This guy is a headcase
Ah crap, looks like he will be back next season and we will struggle to find any takers
Six appearances since his move. The problem with French teams is they always favour French players.
legitimately forgot he was on our books
Is he on loan or did we sell him?
fecking clown
Poor challenge but was clearly going for the ball
Not a foul for me, if we're going to start giving red cards for that sort of thing then we might as well make it a non contact sport.
Another average signing to make up the numbers
Please tell me his loan deal had an obligation to buy in it?
Can’t be arsed with guys like him coming back in the summer to rock the boat with shit takes and even shitter performances.
Just cancel his contract before he leaves France.
Can’t be arsed with guys like him coming back in the summer to rock the boat with shit takes and even shitter performances.
Just cancel his contract before he leaves France.
Pretty much sums him up. He could look like a brilliant CB at times but you always felt he was only a few games away from injuring himself, someone else or getting himself sent off. Looks like he managed all three in one go there.
Since when?
He’s joking, because Bailly said that about English played in England, and that was the only reason he couldn’t get a game apparently.Since when?
3??? My god man.
I forgot about that one.
They have an obligation to buy if they get CL football. It’s within everyone’s best interests that it happens.
He was injured. They actually like him down there.
Sorry, it's my fault for referencing something so obscure as the title of this fecking thread, you fecking plum. heheI forgot about that one.
Wow, I completely forgot about him.
You would have a point if I read the title of the thread or cared about Bailly.
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