Greta Thunberg

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Probably bollocks, but the original suggestion I saw was that all the media attention over the Greta thing may have got them to check if he was back in the country, rather than them being auto-alerted by passport control or whatever. Who the feck knows how Romanian police work though ay
Out of sheer boredom (my plane was delayed) I spent roughly 13 minutes trying to make sense of this earlier today.

My conclusion is that the pizza box thing originated from some fecker on Twitter - and was subsequently picked up by legit (but not very bright or honest) journos.

The Romanian police never said anything about pizza boxes.

(It would, of course, be absurd if they in any shape or form based an operation - i.e. when to strike down on his arse - on something like that. They obviously would've known where he was without having to rely on Twitter and/or pizza boxes - and they apparently didn't take him in because of the trafficking business at all, it had something to do with money laundering.)

Good joke on Greta's part, though - well played.
 

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This girl is classy. Shame on the creeps and climate change deniers.
 

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Out of sheer boredom (my plane was delayed) I spent roughly 13 minutes trying to make sense of this earlier today.

My conclusion is that the pizza box thing originated from some fecker on Twitter - and was subsequently picked up by legit (but not very bright or honest) journos.

The Romanian police never said anything about pizza boxes.

(It would, of course, be absurd if they in any shape or form based an operation - i.e. when to strike down on his arse - on something like that. They obviously would've known where he was without having to rely on Twitter and/or pizza boxes - and they apparently didn't take him in because of the trafficking business at all, it had something to do with money laundering.)

Good joke on Greta's part, though - well played.
It is so good I will believe it to be true despite it not being so.
 

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Just checked the Wiki list for that. 17 of the top 30 top tweets of all time are just emojis from a K-Pop band. For feck sake.
You haven't liked those?

On another note, Greta's most liked tweet is in between an Obama anti-racism tweet on 3rd all-time and Joe Biden's tweet from the day of his inauguration on 5th. Twitter really does have a lot to offer.
 

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She’s so cool. I think she might be the coolest famous person there is.
When the police once dragged me away, they weren’t as careful, though.
 

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Good on her, what a stupid feck of a government to put themselves in a position of relying on coal in 2023, utter morons.
Europe faces hard choices around energy security, better coal than Russian gas seems to be the thinking.

Coal plants with active carbon capture at source can dramatically reduce emissions, although Nuclear is clearly the better option.
 
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Europe faces hard choices around energy security, better coal than Russian gas seems to be the thinking.

Coal plants with active carbon capture at source can dramatically reduce emissions, although Nuclear is clearly the better option.
That’s the whole point, how stupid have they been to end up reliant on Russia, absolutely moronic.
Nuclear has always been the better option, until a genuinely alternative “green” option is viable.
 

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Europe faces hard choices around energy security, better coal than Russian gas seems to be the thinking.

Coal plants with active carbon capture at source can dramatically reduce emissions, although Nuclear is clearly the better option.
Carbon capture is a scam. Coal, and especially lignite, must be phased out ASAP. Yesterday. It's a disaster.
 

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Germany deserve every protest possible for how they have handled the energy crisis. Stopping all nuclear plants and being dependent on Russian gas was insanely stupid. The green party over there should be arrested for stupidity or corruption.

They should get credit for the amount of weapons they are sending to Ukraine though.
 

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Carbon capture is a scam. Coal, and especially lignite, must be phased out ASAP. Yesterday. It's a disaster.
Yep. Whoever thinks there is anything good out of coal extraction and consumption is an obnoxious jackass.

Germany deserve every protest possible for how they have handled the energy crisis. Stopping all nuclear plants and being dependent on Russian gas was insanely stupid. The green party over there should be arrested for stupidity or corruption.
All of that while neighbors France have become a civilian nuclear powerhouse too. Stupidity and corruption may not be mutually exclusive though.
 

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Germany deserve every protest possible for how they have handled the energy crisis. Stopping all nuclear plants and being dependent on Russian gas was insanely stupid. The green party over there should be arrested for stupidity or corruption.

They should get credit for the amount of weapons they are sending to Ukraine though.
Closing nuclear plants was a decision by Merkel and had absolutely nothing to do with the Green Party.
Also a lack of nuclear power is not the issue. The issue is that in 16 years of governing, Merkel and her party systematically shrunk the national sector for renewable energies, in order to aide their buddies from RWE and other companies. That’s where the corruption lies. Also the greens, again, had nothing to do with it.
It baffles me how someone can voice such strong criticism without knowing any of the facts.
 

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Good on her, what a stupid feck of a government to put themselves in a position of relying on coal in 2023, utter morons.
The very kind of people protesting at the mine, were the ones that made nuclear power politically unfeasible in Germany over the last couple of decades.
 

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The very kind of people protesting at the mine, were the ones that made nuclear power politically unfeasible in Germany over the last couple of decades.
It truly is amazing what a party can achieve, that hasn’t been part of any government for 16 years.
By the way, the greens were also the ones most opposed to our reliance on Russian gas. But I guess that’s now their fault too.
 

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Closing nuclear plants was a decision by Merkel and had absolutely nothing to do with the Green Party.
Also a lack of nuclear power is not the issue. The issue is that in 16 years of governing, Merkel and her party systematically shrunk the national sector for renewable energies, in order to aide their buddies from RWE and other companies. That’s where the corruption lies. Also the greens, again, had nothing to do with it.
It baffles me how someone can voice such strong criticism without knowing any of the facts.
While the post may have been clueless the greens were still the anti nuclear party, so I don't think it's entirely honest to say that they had nothing to do with it. They did a lot of lobbying and arguably would have gotten out of it themselves the first chance they got. Though of course, as you alluded to, they probably would have built up renewable options more than the CDU did.
 

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While the post may have been clueless the greens were still the anti nuclear party, so I don't think it's entirely honest to say that they had nothing to do with it. They did a lot of lobbying and arguably would have gotten out of it themselves the first chance they got. Though of course, as you alluded to, they probably would have built up renewable options more than the CDU did.
They obviously are. But as you alluded to, they didn’t write the laws, they weren’t involved in the process and they weren’t the ones in charge of building up the alternatives.
It‘s not the greens fault Merkel threw all her convictions over board to get re-elected after Fukushima and simultaneously destroyed our steadily growing sector of renewables, while at the same time making presents to her buddies in the coal industry. It’s just unfair criticism. Same as the people blaming the greens for our dependance on Russian gas. It’s dishonest at best. Baerbock happened to be the one spending a whole election campaign warning us about the exact situation we’re in right now. If anything the greens deserve praise for being the ones making these issues more public.
Everything that’s getting criticised here are policies by Merkel and her CDU.
 
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It truly is amazing what a party can achieve, that hasn’t been part of any government for 16 years.
By the way, the greens were also the ones most opposed to our reliance on Russian gas. But I guess that’s now their fault too.
I'm not talking about a political party. Why are you so fixated on the party aspect of it? I'm talking about the social popular movement in Germany against nuclear power that is more than just the Green Party.
Merkel and the CDU are of course to blame too, no one is absolving them of it. But the protesters at that coal mine are exactly that kind of people that would chain themselves to the rails if Germany announced the building of a couple of nuclear power stations to completely drop natural gas as electricity.
 

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I'm not talking about a political party. Why are you so fixated on the party aspect of it? I'm talking about the social popular movement in Germany against nuclear power that is more than just the Green Party.
Merkel and the CDU are of course to blame too, no one is absolving them of it. But the protesters at that coal mine are exactly that kind of people that would chain themselves to the rails if Germany announced the building of a couple of nuclear power stations to completely drop natural gas as electricity.
I think if Merkel and her party enact a certain policy, it’s not them who are to blame, too. They are the ones to blame, period.

And what is wrong with being against both coal and nuclear energy? They want out of both in favour of renewables. Which to me makes quite sense. It’s hardly the fault of the movement that Merkel and her party systematically ruined the whole sector to aide RWE and co., precisely the company they are now demonstrating against.
How can a movement share blame for the enactment of policies they explicitly are against? Baffling mental gymnastics, if you ask me. They have been consistent in their demands and those demands make perfect sense.
It fascinates me how one can criticise a party or a movement for policies enacted by their biggest political opponents.
 

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Yep. Whoever thinks there is anything good out of coal extraction and consumption is an obnoxious jackass.



All of that while neighbors France have become a civilian nuclear powerhouse too. Stupidity and corruption may not be mutually exclusive though.
Didn’t Germany export electricity to France last year cause otherwise France would have had blackouts?

You need diversification of energy, and France does not have it.