The fact that he has over 200 goals in the PL and a cracking record in the CL tells you it’s more of a Spurs thing than the player. If Kane was at City he would score 40+ a season in all comps and have multiple trophies.
Obviously I meant supposedly elite players. I'm not talking about people who play for Gillingham.
Stretching the play and pace is hand in hand. I'd argue Kane stretches play in other ways but we already have players making the pitch wide and making arrowed runs behind the last man.
A) Spurs are one of England's most decorated clubs. It's not impossible to win a trophy there.
Aston Villa, Everton, Preston North End, Wanderers FC are also some of England's most decorated clubs and aren't in the business of winning trophies these days.
Not necessarily true, Lukaku is a good example of that. You also don't need pace to stretch the play, you just have to be a willing runner off the ball. RVN was great at stretching defences and was hardly pacey.
Who's the best player you can name that played for a club as big as Spurs and for an international team that got to age 30 without a single trophy?
Tom Finney
Nottingham Forest have 2 European Cups so they would be able to win trophies ? Spurs are flops
Di Natale
My goodness
Villa also have one
gracious me
Socrates won several things before he was 30. And DiNatale? Come on.
They do indeed, I just used Forest as an example to his ridiculous statement that since Spurs where successful years ago it should be easy to get a trophy.
I would have included Stan but he did win something
I'm with you all the way there
Think he was a few years over 30 when he won the FA Cup.I would have included Stan but he did win something
You could akso add Matt Le Tissier though I guess Southampton might be a stretch, but they have won the FA Cup in my lifetime
Brazilian regional titles are about as prestigious as winning the reserve league...
No, I know who he is. My exclamation is because you are going back far into the hazy mists of time to pluck names out, people that even your Dad probably never saw play. Which kind of proves my point. In football within living memory, (
) it is unusual for a top or supposedly world class player to have zero trophies at age 30. IMO this is not a coincidence but of course others feel differently, that it's because of the club he plays for or whatever. As if it's impossible for him to win with that club. Or for him to leave that club.Silly Eurocentric opinion. Socrates is actually Brazilian.
Indeed he was over 30 when he won the FA Cup
Well my Dad did see them play and he's still around he was 86 the other day, as a teenager he used to train with Bert Trautmann, not really sure why though as he wasn't much good at football, cricket was his sport!No, I know who he is. My exclamation is because you are going back far into the hazy mists of time to pluck names out, people that even your Dad probably never saw play. Which kind of proves my point. In football within living memory, (
We have our fair share at our club at the moment
I think if some balance is to be interjected within this debate, it's probably not correct to say it's "all" about the team. Harry Kane is after all part of that team, and like any star player, number 9, top earner - you're expected to raise your head above the parapet in the critical junctures more than the average squad player. He hasn't quite done that for Spurs if we are to consider his performances when Spurs have given themselves golden chances to win something. Once you get to a one off game, or a semi final, the chances are not the same as they were at the competition start point and that's when you want big players to produce match defining moments.
And United!
So you didn’t trust Van persie either. Don’t say you did because he was 29 not 30 or he won the fa cup in 2005 in his first year as a 21yr old. He didn’t win anything for 8 years.
He came in to give us an edge. Now we don’t need an edge but have miles to walk before we reach the top.
Signing an elite striker would be a massive step towards that and for that reason we need Kane more than anyone. I don’t see anyone better than Kane right now or even for next couple of years. People talking about him declining or stop scoring suddenly for a better team under a manager like ten hag is baseless and illogical.
Kane has always has good physical presence. The doubt is more regarding his pace / dynamism and critically his pressing. As it is we have a number of forwards who like to amble. He’s only going to get more disinterested in it over the coming years.
Yeah like Sanchez somehow going to pieces was illogical. Or Hazard getting major I injuries issues as he aged was baseless. Things that you don’t expect happen.
Really bad examples. Sanchez signing for money under Mourinho and Hazard, I don’t even know why you brought him up given his unprofessionalism. How they are compared to Kane? Who is as hungry as anyone and is as professional as they come and would be playing under ten hag. The best examples you can cite are RVP and more precisely Sheringham.
Don’t be a wally. He’s knocked in over 200 goals for a Spurs side that, as you say, don’t win trophies. He’s brilliant. About as sure a thing as you’ll ever find.
Agreed. I don’t get the fear of him dropping suddenly or not performing if he signs for us.
The idea that Kane comes to us, under Ten Hag, surrounded by the likes of Casemiro, Bruno and Rashford, and doesn’t perform is preposterous.
