Someone clearly has never watched us play with Greenwood. The guy was winning us games single-handedly and he wasn't even playing striker.
Oh 100% stupid to give him that wage to start off. I'm saying of those that I highlighted as problem wages, his is the only one where "it might work out" as he has the potential to just meet that salary and he has a long term starting 11 spot. Sancho is on 350k but he's locked behind Rashford long term, so his max is a squad player essentially. Basically 4 of our top 10 earners shouldn't be starting games for us next season and aren't good enough for the roles.
Antony was a marquee signing. His salary was always going to be respectful of that fact. £200k pw is well, well within the line of the rest of the first team hierarchy. You offer salaries based on the current wage structure of the club, not what other clubs would have given him.
Same as how does anyone know transfer fees (outside of some countries that publish them openly). There's always agents, managers and club officials happy to talk to the press anonymous.
Greenwood was the most talented youngster this club had since Rooney
There are dozens of people that will be aware of a players salary, from agents to accountants. Its the type of infomation that is about as secure as the US Congress on election day
You said it, not me. Khvicha at his age was a decent prospect playing at Russia (and he was far from the hottest one), same can he said about a lot of the rest from your list, Mbappé & Haaland excluded.
One of the worst.
I always take wage with an extra pinch of salt though - the club has no interest to leak it so it’ll come from the agent side and they are heavily incentivised to make out they got their client the best deal.
Thats criminal? Brandon Williams is paid more than McTom, a full Scottish international versus the current temporary U-21 captain.
Yeah, but that was most likely after season 1. And i doubt anyone actually would bid something like that.
He was one of the best finishers I've seen. I discussed multiple times on this board putting on a bet that he'd break Rooneys record.
Ok. Im sobering up, i still stand that he was atleast how i remeber it better and more valuebal after season 1.
In theory your argument makes sense but in practice it's poorly applicable. That's because young talent is unpredictable even when the player does make it to the top (let alone when it does not). Take Scholes for example. He was supposed to become a striker but he ended a CM which meant that Nicky Butt (who was thought to be paul ince's successor) ended a reserve. Our current squad is filled with these sort of players. Rashy started as a striker but he became a LW. Greenwood was supposed to be STK as well but he did better as RW. I am sure that Ole thought that Sancho would sort his RW issues but it didn't work that well so far
Yup our wage system is all over the place and really should have tiers as you say. Guys making about 200k should be experienced and important players who have also proven they deserve it. Guys like Antony should be signing between 100-150k. Rashford with this contract now is where it's fair to negotiate for that 250k+ range.
He is on 75k, not 175k or 275k. How much was Haaland and Mbappe when they were in BVB and Monaco respectively ? They were also of similar potential with their previous clubs. And remember MG play for Man United, so gonna earn little better
yes but let’s be real. Player of their caliber going to join Man United of today will have to be convinced somehow.
| Player | Club | Old Wage | New Wage | Increase |
| Sancho | Dortmund | £2 830 768,00 | £18 200 000,00 | 542,94 % |
| Casemiro | Real Madrid | £9 677 688,00 | £18 200 000,00 | 88,06 % |
| Varane | Real Madrid | £15 109 224,00 | £17 680 000,00 | 17,01 % |
| Martial | Monaco | £505 115,00 | £5 720 000,00 | 1032,42 % |
| Fernandes | Sporting CP | £2 538 845,00 | £9 360 000,00 | 268,67 % |
| Antony | Ajax | £1 344 615,00 | £10 400 000,00 | 673,46 % |
| Maguire | Leicester | £4 680 000,00 | £9 880 000,00 | 111,11 % |
| Eriksen* | Inter | £8 509 996,00 | £7 800 000,00 | -8,34 % |
| Eriksen* | Brentford | £3 120 000,00 | £7 800 000,00 | 150,00 % |
| Shaw | Southampton | £1 300 000,00 | £5 720 000,00 | 340,00 % |
| Fred | Shakhtar | £1 750 044,00 | £6 240 000,00 | 256,56 % |
| Lindelof | Benfica | £337 038,00 | £3 900 000,00 | 1057,14 % |
| Martinez | Ajax | £1 061 538,00 | £6 240 000,00 | 487,83 % |
| van de Beek | Ajax | £2 211 538,00 | £6 240 000,00 | 182,16 % |
| Wan-Bissaka | Crystal Palace | £780 000,00 | £4 680 000,00 | 500,00 % |
| Malacia | Feyenoord | £345 000,00 | £3 900 000,00 | 1030,43 % |
| Heaton | Aston Villa | £2 080 000,00 | £2 300 000,00 | 10,58 % |
| Dalot | Porto | £137 115,00 | £1 300 000,00 | 848,11 % |
Jones has a league medal.Dalot getting a third of Jones salary. Imagine how frustrating that would be
His shooting ability was phenomenal, power and accuracy of his shots was fantastic. He was still raw and needed a lot of guidance and to play in a more structured team. If he was available this season with ETH then you would have seen the best of him. No one compares to Haaland or Mbappe, these guys have played regularly in well coached teams.
Yes but we have to start as we mean to go on, rewarding Rashford for a very good season is important but overpaying isn’t the way forward. Negotiating new signings and associated contracts, would compare to what is currently being given out rather than what is historically being paid.
The trouble is that these things don't work in isolation. Take the RW as an example. United chased Sancho for an entire year when we ended up signing him for 73m. Which meant that
Yeah.
Yeah. I also remeber he was so good with hes weak foot that i didnt really knew what foot he was.
Some of those numbers seem off. In what universe would we pay Brandon Williams more than McTominay? Or Dalot a fraction of Bissaka or Malacia. Martinez on par with Lindeloff. Elanga on peanuts, err.
That's bad too, but McTominay isn't nailed on as a starter when he's fit like Dalot basically is.
You don't buy a player for 80+ million and then not pay them like they didn't cost 80+ million
Dalot/Elanga never signed new contracts. Dalots contract when he signed from Porto is still what he's on isn't it? Think he's about to expire. Williams vs McTominay feel off for sure. Martinez is fine, Lindelof was always on pretty big wages.
