Yeah, that's hilarious. Not because he's our player and I hate our players but because he genuinely thinks he's better than he is and the misalignment is of cosmic proportions.
Is Harry Maguire being a worldwide punchline deserved?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
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Its not nice... it is not unexpected that he is memed on so much though.
He is the most expensive defender in the world with some very obvious flaws. Some of the things he has done on the pitch would be laughed at during a sunday league amateur game. If the most expensive defender and captain of Manchester United does the things he has done, it will be laughed at even more. A lot of people enjoy seeing Manchester United fail so seeing captain Maguire stumble and fail is even funnier to a lot of people.
Besides that he also does come across fairly dumb. The earcupping against a speck on the map footballing side, the arrogant interviews and generally just the way he looks (slabhead) and moves on the pitch (slow, cant turn, an unatheltic fridge) make him a beloved target to ridicule. There is also the free pass he does get from English media and Southgate, that annoys some people too. Meme on him as a way to 'get back' at him i guess?
I would feel bad for him but like other posters said, his interviews and quotes make it difficult for me to feel much sympathy for him.
He is the most expensive defender in the world with some very obvious flaws. Some of the things he has done on the pitch would be laughed at during a sunday league amateur game. If the most expensive defender and captain of Manchester United does the things he has done, it will be laughed at even more. A lot of people enjoy seeing Manchester United fail so seeing captain Maguire stumble and fail is even funnier to a lot of people.
Besides that he also does come across fairly dumb. The earcupping against a speck on the map footballing side, the arrogant interviews and generally just the way he looks (slabhead) and moves on the pitch (slow, cant turn, an unatheltic fridge) make him a beloved target to ridicule. There is also the free pass he does get from English media and Southgate, that annoys some people too. Meme on him as a way to 'get back' at him i guess?
I would feel bad for him but like other posters said, his interviews and quotes make it difficult for me to feel much sympathy for him.
I often hear kids at my local pitch shouting "HARRY MAGUIRE" when someone does something shit.
So, he's probably just become the whole joke to a lot of people.
So, he's probably just become the whole joke to a lot of people.
Just basic tik tok culture. I don't think people realise the average age of the users who they laugh along with is 13
The global punchline should be the unqualified DOF and the unqualified manager that conceived of this absolute parody of a transfer.
He's a shit player who one of the most popular clubs in the world paid an astronomical fee for and made captain to justify the outlay spent on him. Everything about it is comical, to be honest.
It's over. It's time for him to learn chinese.
It's over. It's time for him to learn chinese.
I don't think it's genuine arrogance, I think he's putting up a facade to cover up his shortcomings, whichb he himself must surely be aware of.
He certainly doesn't play with arrogance, quite the opposite actually, he looks a nervous wreck half the time.
It shows that humans at their core are absolutely dreadful, Maguire has my full support, nobody deserves to be treated that way. It is despicable behavior from everyone taking part in this. When this is coming from Man Utd fans it makes me numb, support your damn players! You will all celebrate when he heads a ball in, hypocrites. The levels of toxicity in the world… fecking hell…
We need him tomorrow and I hope really hard he plays a fantastic game of football.
We need him tomorrow and I hope really hard he plays a fantastic game of football.
Used to be "Prunier!" the kids would shout back in the day-day
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Looks like Harry will have to take Ghana off his bucket list
Oh you, I remember you got me banned for a weak moment I had for which I apologized which went completely unresponded by you. It is petty behavior to save someones posts only to have a go at them when it is convenient. I have to say I’m not surprised though… human nature and all.
I didn't get you banned, you got yourself banned for insulting other members. Human nature indeed! I don't need any more PMs from you assuring me "PS I am really a man utd, trust me", thanks. I'm not gonna derail the thread any further, just wanted to call you out on your shameless hypocrisy.
Still no acknowledgement I see of me taking responsibility by apologizing for what I said.I didn't get you banned, you got yourself banned for insulting other members. Human nature indeed! I'm not gonna derail the thread any further, just wanted to call you out on your shameless hypocrisy.
It is totally and utterly undeserved in my mind. He seems to get punished over and over simply for the crime that we as a club decided to spend stupid, stupid money on him. That and Gareth Southgate picks him, even though he's clearly one of the top 4 or 5 CBs England have - this seems to go against him.
He's had a very successful career as a footballer. Just look at his career path. It's textbook. Sheffield United, to Hull, to Leicester, to United, each time earning his rise. He's worked hard to achieve that and you need to have dedication and ability to do it so I have respect for what he's done, he's just short at this level.
Criticism is absolutely fine because he's not up to it here, especially when it is focused on particular performances. But it's just become a cheap bandwagon for anyone that doesn't really have anything to say to hop on board and feel a part of something. Especially the neutrals that have no skin in the game, it's just a pile on for no good reason, I can't see any other justification for the consistency of the fixation on him. Some of it also becomes vitriolic.
He's had a very successful career as a footballer. Just look at his career path. It's textbook. Sheffield United, to Hull, to Leicester, to United, each time earning his rise. He's worked hard to achieve that and you need to have dedication and ability to do it so I have respect for what he's done, he's just short at this level.
Criticism is absolutely fine because he's not up to it here, especially when it is focused on particular performances. But it's just become a cheap bandwagon for anyone that doesn't really have anything to say to hop on board and feel a part of something. Especially the neutrals that have no skin in the game, it's just a pile on for no good reason, I can't see any other justification for the consistency of the fixation on him. Some of it also becomes vitriolic.
I have absolutely no idea why you edited a piece of my pm into a public forum, I’m pretty sure that is not what pm’s are for. If you try to put me in bad light then you are failing because I said absolutely nothing wrong in my pm to you.I didn't get you banned, you got yourself banned for insulting other members. Human nature indeed! I don't need any more PMs from you assuring me "PS I am really a man utd, trust me", thanks. I'm not gonna derail the thread any further, just wanted to call you out on your shameless hypocrisy.
No its way over the top, he doesn’t help himself a lot of the time but even so doesn’t deserve to be a figure of fun.
He needs a fresh start somewhere with a lower profile. He’s completely unsuited to being at Utd even without all this and making him the world’s most expensive defender was pure desperation and stupidity.
He needs a fresh start somewhere with a lower profile. He’s completely unsuited to being at Utd even without all this and making him the world’s most expensive defender was pure desperation and stupidity.
Ole giving him the captaincy didn‘t help
He's just not vert good, that's all.
I'm not sure that's a very good reason for turning him into a mockery and going too far as those on social media seem prone to do. Or unprofessionalism as displayed by the commentators in this thread. Especially with the sort of consistency with which this stuff happens. I wonder if those people would like something similar to happen to them just because they tried their best at something but weren't good enough.
It's a pretty good reason for United fans offering justified criticism of his performances though. No issues with that.
I think there's a fairly clear line there dictated by a bit of maturity and decency...
This behaviour towards him angers me, so I’ve been starving away from discussions about him.
The cowardice in current human behaviours is led to such attitudes. Seeing people in veiled support of it here on this very forum with statements like “ he doesn’t deserve it BUT he doesn’t help ..”
No. Nobody deserves such FULL STOP. There is criticism and there is bullying, this is down right bullying but it’s human trend. Even on this forum when people don’t agree with you, they attack your person instead of discussing the disagreement.
I will continue to pick apart/ criticise performances of our underperforming players as per game but will not condone or attack them for being footballers or trying to live their best life.
Jealousy is a disease.
The cowardice in current human behaviours is led to such attitudes. Seeing people in veiled support of it here on this very forum with statements like “ he doesn’t deserve it BUT he doesn’t help ..”
No. Nobody deserves such FULL STOP. There is criticism and there is bullying, this is down right bullying but it’s human trend. Even on this forum when people don’t agree with you, they attack your person instead of discussing the disagreement.
I will continue to pick apart/ criticise performances of our underperforming players as per game but will not condone or attack them for being footballers or trying to live their best life.
Jealousy is a disease.
The criticism and memes can be over the top though his interviews and Ole mindlessly handing him the armband did not help matters.
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I agree totally
but I have made similar mistakes in the past, not necessarily regarding Maguire but in general and it is regrettable on my part
I agree totally
but I have made similar mistakes in the past, not necessarily regarding Maguire but in general and it is regrettable on my part
Maguire isn't good = people use Maguire as a reference point for players that play in the same position and aren't very good.
An exorbitant fee was also paid for him by arguably the most popular club in the world = bigger spotlight = more people using him as a reference point for jokes
I'm yet to see these "going too far" extremes you guys are referring to.
He'll be alright the moment he moves to a club that isn't or enjoys the same stature as a United. Revisionism will likely happen if he strings a couple decent performances, and people will laud him. It's the cycle for players that are just short at the highest level.
He's the most expensive defender ever, not necessarily his fault, but yeah when you're like 4th or 5th choice for your club after that, it's going to happen, neymar has been pretty good for psg but he gets a lot of stick just because of his fee, so it's maybe not deserved, but it isn't unique to maguire for a player to be ridiculed based on his transfer fee combine with underwhelming performances
Him being the most expensive defender ever isn't his fault. The person who should be mocked for that is Solskjaer - but he's gone, and Maguire's still here.
Exactly, he just seems a bit thick. In the dressing room his captaincy efforts probably come across like David Brent.
He's not as bad as people claim. And it's not like he decided the transfer fee.
But he is pretty bad. And his attitude does not help him. Him being the United captain just makes things worse.
But he is pretty bad. And his attitude does not help him. Him being the United captain just makes things worse.
No but our fans have helped turn him into a meme. Well done you morons.
Well it isn't their fault. But it does put a bigger spotlight on them good or bad. I think on one hand, not the reactive fans, but a lot of people will give an expensive signing a longer time to come good. We still kinda expect something from sancho but if he'd been signed for 15m, we'd probably be writing him off just now. At the same time once they've had a few years of not living up to it, pr particularly calamitous errors, they get more stick for it, maguire is unlucky that he plays in the position where besides goalkeeper a feckup is most likely to lead to a goal.
It's not fair, but he's not the first high profile signing and won't be the last who comes in for extra stick based on his price tag
I have myself, even recently in the Sancho thread. I said he is not a footballer and one of the posters called me out on it.
We will all get carried away with our comments at some point but we can’t continue doubling down on it. It stops being funny before the first try.
Pretty much. Guys who've never played high level football sitting on couches making fun and abusing of some of the best footballers on the planet to make themselves feel better for not knowing how to kick a ball.
It's sad to see how football discussions have changed with social media to people saying horrible things about players just to get attention and likes.
It’s gone way too far with him
No it's not deserved, it's just moronic.
C'mon it's not like they're reading redcafe. I mean people who DM abuse to players obviously go too far, but joking about players on online forums hardly equates to bullying. The rest of the country is going through a choice of whether to eat or heat their home over the last year, millionaires getting some stick when they play badly is really low down the list of priorities. Like I say messaging players with abuse (of any kind) isn't on but beyond that, who gives a feck
Exactly. As long as you aren't doing anything fecking weird, any stick or comments are fair game. It's part of the pressure, and this sympathy parade some try to throw for Maguire is embarrassing
I won’t put it past our players to be active on football forums that might offer them anonymity, especially the English speaking lads.
Players should always be criticised for bad performance or else standards will never get defined. A bullying attitude goes beyond wording and double/triple down on him by people even when he is a non entity in games looks very strange.
I don’t think people should be punished for making a success of their lives. Being a millionaire doesn’t stop you from being human. We tend to forget these so-called football millionaires gambled on their one shut to get to where they got to. They are the success stories and should not be ridiculed for it because our lives are tough.
If they are active on the forums, who cares. If one of us says something stupid, we'll be mocked for it. People in this country are punished because they weren't born in the right area or to the right family, people struggle with serious issues every day, being mocked because you don't do a good job at your extremely high paying job isn't really a big issue, or an issue at all. Who woukdnt swap places with maguire, and get the abuse and not have to suffer through our own problems. Like I said direct abuse is too far, but criticism or memes on a forum aren't a big deal.
They're also not so called millionaires, they definitely are millionaires, well unless maguire is as bad with money as he is at defending
No, seriously though, that's just a tradeoff that comes with being famous, if you're in the spotlight you'll take more stick for mistakes or stupid actions, but on the other hand you make a ton of money and get special treatment because you're good at kicking a ball
I will reply to this because it’s a contribution to a conversation I’m involved in.
Embarrassing sympathy parades are necessary at this point because we don’t keep undermining the confidence of our own players and still expect them to deliver on match days when needed.
You call it pressure but I call it unnecessarily manufactured pressure. It’s pressurised enough playing for United but your fan’s turning on you? Go figure.
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