Shady new sponsorship for Newcastle

[Giggsyking]

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The most important thing is the company sponsoring them did not have a website few weeks ago.

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[Tarrou]

what would market rate be for a club of Newcastles size? I assume thats inflated but honestly no clue

 

[2mufc0]

Like City all over again, it's pathetic the football authorities will continue to let it happen.

 

[pacifictheme]

City have gotten away with this for a decade and Newcastle will too. Absolutely no point thinking about it.

 

[Giggsyking]

what would market rate be for a club of Newcastles size? I assume thats inflated but honestly no clue

I dont really know. But how can a company that did not even have a website few weeks ago, do huge sponsorships deals?

 

[RoadTrip]

It’s obviously a massive fudge but £25m p/y doesn’t seem that inflated given they’ll be in the CL?

 

[2mufc0]

It’s obviously a massive fudge but £25m p/y doesn’t seem that inflated given they’ll be in the CL?

I mean they have to make it realistic, give it a year or two and it will be doubled, then increased yearly. They are just planting the seeds at the moment.

 

[RoadTrip]

I mean they have to make it realistic, give it a year or two and it will be doubled, then increased yearly. They are just planting the seeds at the moment.

Of course

 

[Oranges038]

Previous deal was less than 10m a year.

So 25m seems about right, considering inflation, the price of oil, the price of butter, new owners and of course a Saudi owned company sponsoring a Saudi owned company.

 

[MadMike]

Like City all over again, it's pathetic the football authorities will continue to let it happen.

I mean, they’ve set a precedence of letting it happen with PSG and City. They even put Al-Khelaifi on the UEFA board. If they don’t let Newcastle do it, you could successfully argue it would be prejudiced and unfair.

The ship sailed, football sold out long long ago.

 

[Nickelodeon]

What’s the point of criticising Newcastle when more than half the forum wants the same for us?

 

[redNATION]

I was wondering when they would pull out the City playbook, I’m sure we’ll be seeing all sorts of fake companies on their strip going forward.

 

[Pexbo]

It’s obviously a massive fudge but £25m p/y doesn’t seem that inflated given they’ll be in the CL?

If it’s not inflated, why did they not pick one of the other companies offering the same money?

If there were no other companies offering the same money, it is inflated.

 

[redNATION]

What’s the point of criticising Newcastle when more than half the forum wants the same for us?

We don’t need inflated fake sponsorship deals, the club already generates enough on its own. What we need are owners who won’t keep stripping the club of money and resources, and a hard nosed business man like Ratcliffe isn’t that unfortunately.

 

[OldSchoolManc]

The people that run the EPL should hang their heads in shame but it’s likely that they have had their own brown envelopes passed to them.
Which also means not much may happen with City who should get Juventus sized punishments.
The ‘fit and proper’ tests for new owners are a disgrace - especially when you also see what the Glazers have done

 

[yumtum]

What’s the point of criticising Newcastle when more than half the forum wants the same for us?

If you want to make that comparison, that would be like United going from team viewer, that were paying us around £40m for that sponsorship to £100m seeing as Newcastle just increased theirs by 2.5x - now THAT would be unfair.

 

[Murder on Zidanes Floor]

Meh, welcome to modern football. Ownerships creating shell companies to circumvent FFP.

Nothing new.

 

[Marcelinho87]

We don’t need inflated fake sponsorship deals, the club already generates enough on its own. What we need are owners who won’t keep stripping the club of money and resources, and a hard nosed business man like Ratcliffe isn’t that unfortunately.

We don't need it no but that's what we will get with Qatar, we will be surrounded in this air of doubt and negativity all the time.

What the majority of posters thought about city yesterday and the death of football, we become a nail in that coffin.

I ain't arsed either way but people need to be aware of what they want.

 

[Rake]

115 Charges FC might have a course on Udemy.

 

[Sgreddevil]

Does FFP consider that as their income for FFP? If yes that is quite ridiculous as it just sound like a way of creating accounting to force a revenue recognition as opposed to equity contribution by owners. As an accountant by profession, I'm surprised that has not been clamped down after city blatantly did that for decade.. FFP should exclude such income and only consider third part income that does not originated from the club majority shareholder.

 

[Pughnichi]

And so it starts…

 

[Nickelodeon]

We don’t need inflated fake sponsorship deals, the club already generates enough on its own. What we need are owners who won’t keep stripping the club of money and resources, and a hard nosed business man like Ratcliffe isn’t that unfortunately.

Yes, we don’t need it. But the owners would still do it. This is the only way of converting Qatar money to United money. If/when we win something, Qatari Emir will be claiming credit like a dictatorship. Just see the response to City’s win.

Agree with you on Glazers but there are a million better alternatives than our club being used for a human rights abusing country’s propaganda.

 

[ForeverRed1]

Here we go again. Another one.

 

[rimaldo]

you lot are so cynical. the company exists. my girlfriend, who goes to another school, works there.

 

[cheekybackheel]

We don't need it no but that's what we will get with Qatar, we will be surrounded in this air of doubt and negativity all the time.

What the majority of posters thought about city yesterday and the death of football, we become a nail in that coffin.

I ain't arsed either way but people need to be aware of what they want.

Football as we all know it, died a long time ago. It's not been about jumpers-for-goalposts for 20yrs now.

I'm happy to say I want Qatar purely because I think they'll do a better job than Ineos. I don't want them cooking the books to do it though, I just want them to run it so much better than the Glazers.

But there's a part of me, like a lot of supporters and yourself, that despise the way its all gone with money. And to be fair, that's not Qatars fault, that's just the way it is.
I was looking back and wondered when all this silly money/fantasy football started, like when did it turn and get obscene. When did it move away from that raw, grass roots football feeling I grew up with.

I then thought it all started with Neymar going to PSG for stupid money, £200m. But then as my dad pointed out, it was a massive deal when Trevor Francis went for £1m back in the 80s! So maybe this money trajectory has always been there and is just the nature of the beast.

 

[izec]

This is how football is going. You either accept it or discuss it to death, it wont change. If Qatar buy us, we will be the same and will enter into shady sponsorships, if needed or not. United will be intertwined with Qatar on many levels, as they would want to use our brand for their political purposes.

 

[Marcelinho87]

Football as we all know it, died a long time ago. It's not been about jumpers-for-goalposts for 20yrs now.

I'm happy to say I want Qatar purely because I think they'll do a better job than Ineos. I don't want them cooking the books to do it though, I just want them to run it so much better than the Glazers.

But there's a part of me, like a lot of supporters and yourself, that despise the way its all gone with money. And to be fair, that's not Qatars fault, that's just the way it is.
I was looking back and wondered when all this silly money/fantasy football started, like when did it turn and get obscene. When did it move away from that raw, grass roots footslball feeling I grew up with.

I then thought it all started with Neymar going to PSG for stupid money, £200m. But then as my dad pointed out, it was a massive deal when Trevor Francis went for £1m back in the 80s! So maybe this money trajectory has always been there and is just the nature of the beast.

I myself want Qatar, I've said it numerous times across different threads.. I want them purely for the simplicity of their offer.

But am I bothered if SJR gets in? No I'm happy to see positives in both offers and deal with any negative at the time rather than beating myself up over unknowns.

Either way ensure Glazers go one way or another and I'm good with that.

 

[UpWithRivers]

If the do this that blatantly then what do you think they are up to behind the public eye. Football is now owned by the Oil states just like golf. In a few years cup finals will be played in Saudi and Saudi teams will be in the Champions league

 

[Von Mistelroum]

Starting to see that City are getting away with it, so why not join them.

 

[Spoony]

No one(those running the game) cares because everyone profits.

 

[BootsyCollins]

This is how it is now, and how it will be in football in general untill it gets so corrupt the fans will stop caring. Then the ”integrity” will matters to the people on top.

 

[AndySmith1990]

And so it begins. Sad

 

[Steve Bruce]

I think 25m is the going rate for a champions league side. Spurs is around 40m.

I think paranoia is settled into manys minds because it's Saudi

 

[cheekybackheel]

I myself want Qatar, I've said it numerous times across different threads.. I want them purely for the simplicity of their offer.

But am I bothered if SJR gets in? No I'm happy to see positives in both offers and deal with any negative at the time rather than beating myself up over unknowns.

Either way ensure Glazers go one way or another and I'm good with that.

Completely agree.

 

[Baneofthegame]

I think 25m is the going rate for a champions league side. Spurs is around 40m.

I think paranoia is settled into manys minds because it's Saudi

Or, maybe it’s because they are owned by the same people who own the club? If we are owned by Qatar would you be fine with us getting 250 million a year from a Qatari company that’s owned by the state?

 

[whitbyviking]

To take over us will cost approximately 20x what Newcastle cost? We should be justified in claiming shirt sponsorship of 20x theirs. £500m is a nice round number too

Only being slightly facetious

 

[Mb194dc]

It’s obviously a massive fudge but £25m p/y doesn’t seem that inflated given they’ll be in the CL?

It's not, we're looking for about £40m I think.

The sooner football sorts itself out the better. Should be a salary cap. FFP based on revenue is total stupidity.

 

[JagUTD]

What’s the point of criticising Newcastle when more than half the forum wants the same for us?

The OP being one of the biggest cheerleaders.

 

[Giggsyking]

The OP being one of the biggest cheerleaders.

SJ is not the Qatari state. PIF that own Newcastle is literally the Saudi state.
Also, did I say anywhere I want cheating and shady companies sponsorships? My support for the SJ bid is not unconditional, if he wants to cheat his way, then no I do not want it. United already the biggest brand in football and they are not in need of inflated sponsorships.

 

[GazTheLegend]

The "Fairy Tale" continues for these clubs.