Titanic tourist submersible missing | Sub's debris found - crew "have been lost"

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i just find it funny that people are that wrapped up in a clear government conspiracy. my mate is cousins with kate winslet, and not only was she actually born decades after the titanic supposedly sank, she’s actually still alive today. the goverment have made it all up. just don’t mention to him that you’ve seen her tits.
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i just find it funny that people are that wrapped up in a clear government conspiracy. my mate is cousins with kate winslet, and not only was she actually born decades after the titanic supposedly sank, she’s actually still alive today. the goverment have made it all up. just don’t mention to him that you’ve seen her tits.
You joke but there are actual people who think this was some kind of elaborate ruse for them to all escape from the public eye despite nobody ever having heard of them before this.
 

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What is this shocking new development where posts on an internet message board might get criticised?!
About as shocking as people on an internet messaging board having quite polarising views on any subject. Hopefully their posts get deleted!!
 

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Hopefully not. Awful takes should be recorded for posterity. I’ve accumulated some absolute crackers myself over the years.
That's how it should be. One of my bugbears with this forum is when anyone expresses slightly controversial opinions or dark humour there's a pile on from a number of people asking for bans/deletions. Maybe it happens to me more than most people I am a oppo and a bit of a cnut. But when I see posts like yours earlier talking about how disappointed you are in posters for making comments on a knobhead step son, then you're implying they shouldn't be on here. Obviously you haven't explicitly they should be removed like others have but that sort of thing is rubs me the wrong way and makes this a far more sterile, boring place.
 

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That's how it should be. One of my bugbears with this forum is when anyone expresses slightly controversial opinions or dark humour there's a pile on from a number of people asking for bans/deletions. Maybe it happens to me more than most people I am a oppo and a bit of a cnut. But when I see posts like yours earlier talking about how disappointed you are in posters for making comments on a knobhead step son, then you're implying they shouldn't be on here. Obviously you haven't explicitly they should be removed like others have but that sort of thing is rubs me the wrong way and makes this a far more sterile, boring place.
Careful now. You’ll trigger one of my old man rants about how much better the caf was back in the days when you could call a cnut a cnut without being ratted out to the man.
 

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Some feckers here are worse than the billionaires they hate so much.
 

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You joke but there are actual people who think this was some kind of elaborate ruse for them to all escape from the public eye despite nobody ever having heard of them before this.
i reckon that’s true. you can see how horrible people were with their comments and memes. i think they did a preemptive disappearance due to fame, just in case they one day got famous.
 

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Putting a joystick to control it is a sign they don't take it seriously. Like how much can you do with a fecking joystick?
 

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The owner of the company also has ambition of doing space turism. If for subs he had a ps3 controller, will he use a thrustmaster joystick for the spacecraft?
he was hoping the next generation of games consoles would allow this but unfortunately microsoft made an absolute turd with the series x.
 

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Putting a joystick to control it is a sign they don't take it seriously. Like how much can you do with a fecking joystick?
i can show you some tricks if it’s one of those ones that vibrates.
 

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Some feckers here are worse than the billionaires they hate so much.
I for one applaud your stance. It surely must be hard to stand up for the privileged and powerful.
 

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Putting a joystick to control it is a sign they don't take it seriously. Like how much can you do with a fecking joystick?
I don't think it's the options and abilities that are really the problem. It can cover the 3 axis needed and has additional buttons. It would be the realiability i'd be worried about.

To think my mate uses this:
For War Thunder and they go to the ocean floor with that POS is mind boggling though.
 

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Leaving the money aside, the whole “they deserve it attitude” towards people who take risks for fun fecking sucks. I like to climb rocks for fun. I have friends who like to go diving, or cycle very fast down a hill. These are risky activities but they can bring great joy, which helps give life some meaning. We all have various appetites for risk and it will bite some of us on the arse. Especially people who take the biggest risks. We accept that when we take on these risks. Responding with a “told you so” attitude comes across as prissy and joyless. Living a completely risk averse life just seems dull as feck, to be honest.
It’s the reveling in the death of people that I don’t get. At all. Obviously, there are extreme examples of people who die where you generally think the world is a better place without them, but that’s quite rare.
I get apathy because that’s a perfectly normal response to someone dying who you have literally no connection to. Generally speaking, of course. We all do that just to function as humans.

But the joy in it is so fecking weird, man. I don’t know what the feck that is.

Also, Free Solo is excellent. Watched it back when it came out. I hate heights, and it made me queasy all the way through. Extraordinary film.
 

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This thread is such a weird mish mash of putting billionaires on pedestals "they're so smart they must do due diligence every time they take a risk!" and treating them as subhuman scum "lolz, the rich man died and his step-son's a twat and all!"
I like you a lot as a poster and I am willing to bet that based on that post, you are doing some very dangerous shit yourself and you got a bit of the feeling that people tend not to feel as sorry for those that expose themselves "for fun" to danger compared to those that do normal things but are unlucky. So you know that should something bad happen to you while doing weird stuff, you are going to get ... not so much sympathy. Am I right?
 

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One thing I don't understand: This vessel surely had loads of lighter than water components. If they imploded with such a ferocity as people say wouldn't the sub be shattered into loads of small pieces and some of the lighter than water materials have surfaced relatively quickly?

Not saying huge parts, but like with aircraft crashes small parts of carbon fiber etc. Yes the possible field where it could have surfaced was large but not nearly as huge as with a missing plane travelling at speed.
I'm no expert but it sounds like the carbon fibre body imploded, in that sort of event it wouldn't just break into chunks it would be completely shattered, so looking for those tiny parts in the ocean would be like looking for some spilt flour in a field of deep snow.
 

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I like you a lot as a poster and I am willing to bet that based on that post, you are doing some very dangerous shit yourself and you got a bit of the feeling that people tend not to feel as sorry for those that expose themselves "for fun" to danger compared to those that do normal things but are unlucky. So you know that should something bad happen to you while doing weird stuff, you are going to get ... not so much sympathy. Am I right?
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That's how it should be. One of my bugbears with this forum is when anyone expresses slightly controversial opinions or dark humour there's a pile on from a number of people asking for bans/deletions. Maybe it happens to me more than most people I am a oppo and a bit of a cnut. But when I see posts like yours earlier talking about how disappointed you are in posters for making comments on a knobhead step son, then you're implying they shouldn't be on here. Obviously you haven't explicitly they should be removed like others have but that sort of thing is rubs me the wrong way and makes this a far more sterile, boring place.
Although people forget that what is ok in the general is not neccesarily ok in the CE forum.
 

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Here comes the PC gamer snobs.....
That's funny but also incredible. Gaming peripherals to run a sub going 4km deep.

Are there rules about taking people underwater like that? Like tests you have to pass or something? A car needs to have some standards to be accepted; are these subs just wild west?
 

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That's funny but also incredible. Gaming peripherals to run a sub going 4km deep.

Are there rules about taking people underwater like that? Like tests you have to pass or something? A car needs to have some standards to be accepted; are these subs just wild west?
Someone earlier said that it’s standard practice in the US navy. Apparently because the people using them have all grown up as gamers so makes sense to use familiar tech.

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It’s the reveling in the death of people that I don’t get. At all. Obviously, there are extreme examples of people who die where you generally think the world is a better place without them, but that’s quite rare.
I get apathy because that’s a perfectly normal response to someone dying who you have literally no connection to. Generally speaking, of course. We all do that just to function as humans.

But the joy in it is so fecking weird, man. I don’t know what the feck that is.

Also, Free Solo is excellent. Watched it back when it came out. I hate heights, and it made me queasy all the way through. Extraordinary film.
Classic culture war insanity. Everyone is “us” or “them”. And we whip each other into a frenzy of animosity towards the other side. So stands to reason we find it hilarious when the enemy dies horribly. Even if that involves the death of a 19 year old kid. The world has become a really horrible place.
 

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I find I'm at odd with myself over this whole thing. On the one hand I think people do need protecting through laws and regulations to ensure they aren't conned/exposed to unnecessary risk from products or ventures.

On the other hand I also think you need to do your due diligence and understand risks that may be present, especially in high risk areas.

But then I also think some things seem so wildly daft that if you do them you've got to expect if it goes wrong, welp, tough shit. Yep, it's sad, but also feck around and find out. I have to assume that four out of those five people fully understood the risks and went ahead anyway. As for the fifth, assuming the information available is correct, that's a real tragedy that he felt compelled to go despite his fears which retrospectively were entirely valid.
 

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Classic culture war insanity. Everyone is “us” or “them”. And we whip each other into a frenzy of animosity towards the other side. So stands to reason we find it hilarious when the enemy dies horribly. Even if that involves the death of a 19 year old kid. The world has become a really horrible place.
I think that there is a big difference between the jokes targeting OceanGate, the sub and the captain and the jokes targeting the victims specifically.
 

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I'm no expert but it sounds like the carbon fibre body imploded, in that sort of event it wouldn't just break into chunks it would be completely shattered, so looking for those tiny parts in the ocean would be like looking for some spilt flour in a field of deep snow.
Yeah but what implodes is just the room filled with air inside the sub. Once there's no pressure differential I don't think the materials are very stressed. At least that's my understanding as to why something like the titanic itself isn't pulverized either at that depth.

If the implosion itself fragmented everything to tiny pieces then ye, there's no finding nanometer particles I guess.
 

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I think that there is a big difference between the jokes targeting OceanGate, the sub and the captain and the jokes targeting the victims specifically.
The whole thing became a meme, peaking at a time when their relatives must have been frantic with worry and this kid was either dying the most horrendous death imaginable, or already dead. I know this might come across as a bit po-faced and I'm not demanding that anyone should mourn strangers but the whole thing reflected badly on everyone involved in the pile-on. The lack of basic human empathy was grim. Even more so when so much of it was coming from people who would probably think of themselves as belonging to the compassionate end of the political spectrum.

Can you imagine the reaction if the same "hilarious" meme frenzy happened when those Thai kids were trapped in the cave? How furious everyone would be? Yet here we are, not showing a hint of compassion towards people in a similarly horrific scenario because the culture war deems them as bad people, whose trauma means nothing to us. That's fecked up.