Yeah, the innovation argument is really dumb. These guys weren't innovating anything. Just cutting corners to make money, as you say.
Titanic tourist submersible missing | Sub's debris found - crew "have been lost"
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Rush definitely coming across as a bit of a con artist. Perhaps the others on board were naive but the guy seems manipulative too.
By the letter of the law, I'm not sure what he's guilty of but it seems criminal. Just incredibly sad others were killed as a result of him and his companies approach to safety.
By the letter of the law, I'm not sure what he's guilty of but it seems criminal. Just incredibly sad others were killed as a result of him and his companies approach to safety.
That’s about as accurate as the Simpson’s version of predicting it
Agreed
Rush, if he were alive, would not be facing a very pleasant time if he surfaced.
Definitely. Once liberal, “compassionate” Twitter turns on you they will hunt you down, to the ends of the internet, to get their pound of flesh.Rush, if he were alive, would not be facing a very pleasant time if he surfaced.
I reckon he meant like a federal probe and not memers
While I agree with what Pogue meant as well, you are correct. The Transportation Safety Board of Canada has already launched a safety investigation into the accident and the US Coast Guard also alluded that a formal inquiry would begin soon.
Personally I find the lack of empathy in people on here failing to understand why the internet is making jokes at the expense of these rich clowns even more baffling.
I think @Wibble mentioned that the people making the jokes must be bitter and twisted. Yes, they absolutely are bitter? How is that surprising? Of course they are. Have you not seen the state of the world? So many ordinary people are being fecked over by the decisions of the rich and the powerful. We see them living the sorts of lives and doing things we can only dream of doing and we know that they're only able to do this because they've taken advantage of a system that exploits ordinary people.
It's pretty obvious that these rich people have become a proxy for all the resentment that's been growing in the last few years. The fact they were so rich yet died in such a ridiculous way, in a sub made by a company trying to cut any corners they could for a tiny bit more profit, doing something a regular person isn't likely to ever do in their lives, is what makes it so hilarious. It's like the perfect metaphor for capitalism.
Personally I have more in common with and more empathy for the people making the jokes than the people on the sub but somehow I feel that's the opposite for you. The fact you're comparing this to the Thai kids incident shows you have no understanding of why people are making the jokes.
The idea was to take tourists as guinea pigs for the oil industry? Wonder if theRush, if he were alive, would not be facing a very pleasant time if he surfaced.
I'm glad I can separate my extreme dislike for the growing gap between rich and poor from personal ill will for, sometimes to the point of wishing death upon, people who are wealthier than me.
Shame people didn't express their dislike for inequality by not voting Tory for years.
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I thought @Mogget was Danish?
I agree with him on a lot of points even if I thought some jokes to be crass and distasteful. We live in a world where even in "rich" nations children don't take the correct medicine because billionaire heir families own copyrights and decide that they need more money. And then there's the majority of humans in even poorer and less fortunate nations. We live in a world in which the rich buy the media and all but brainwashes the gullible into thinking making the rich richer will somehow benefit them. And all we can seemingly do is watch.
So I won't judge too harshly when 2 go in such an idiotic way as this has shown to be in retrospect.
I just think it’s possible to hold political opinions that would want an end to the system that produces billionaires without rejoicing at terrible things happening to individuals. In fact, I think the type of person who might hold those opinions is the type of person who should be above that sort of mean spirited behaviour. But I’m repeating myself here. So I won’t go on. I don’t feel strongly enough about any of this to get in a back and forth. There are much worse things going on in the world, obviously.
They were close, but it sounds like once the pressure got to them, they imploded.
Alright, thanks. I'll still prefer to imagine you didn't vote Tory recently.
A cemetery on the ground level is completely different to a cemetery on the bed of the ocean. Strange comparison dude.
You really need an answer explaining for this?
Why
One's wet when it rains the other always is. What's wrong with you people? hopefully doesn't need white text.
You genuinely believe there’s no difference in visiting a cemetery on the ground than a cemetery on the bed of the Atlantic Ocean?
Apart from getting there is more difficult.
I’d also imagine it’s considerably much safer taking a walk to your local cemetery than going 12,500 feet under water in mode of transportation that is deemed unsafe by many experts and has parts which aren’t even certified to be safe.
It's not a fair comparison. The "normal" cemetery, isn't where they died, it's not where the had the car crash, or the heart attack, it's where they were placed, maybe at their will or certainly at their families, to be remembered and visited. The titanic is where 1500 people died, it's not a place for remembrance, it's a crash site.
You are a lot closer to where they died on the support vessel than in the sub.
That's irrelevant to the original point which was people saying it was a site that tourists shouldn't go to as so many people's remains were still there. Of course it's difficult and dangerous to get there, that's why hardly anyone goes.
I get this but that's why I mentioned Auschwitz and the Killing Fields, thousands upon thousands died in those places, but both are deemed perfectly acceptable to visit.
It is relevant because the original point stated a resting place of 1500 people at “such depth” (I.E. a dangerous place to go) should never be visited.
You bizarrely responded to him implying he was suggesting we shouldn’t visit any resting places. All the places you brought up has zero relevance to his point.
Yes, I’m not getting your logic at all.
I went to the killing fields in my 20s. There wasn’t much else to do in Cambodia: it’s the most depressing tour. Hundreds of skulls on display. Clothes poking out of holes in the ground. Motorbike guides who happily take you round smiling whilst telling you that all of their family got killed. A primary school that was turned into a torture centre. Depressing shit.
Rich or poor anyone stupid enough to get in that thing and think it could go a few miles down and back without incident would be the butt of jokes regardless.
I think the jokes stem more from them being stupid eoungh to go down there a tin can that was already labelled a death trap, being rich just makes people less sympathetic to their plight.
That’s a shame.
Hmmm I took the resting place to be the key part of that and to be fair I refereed to people giving this line of thought rather than just the one poster, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
So at what depth or what level of danger do you draw the line? and why should we not go, surely the risk is for those that want to go to assess? Or are resting places at the bottom of the ocean worthy of more respect than those on the surface?
Does this mean that scuba divers shouldn't dive wrecks? or is that acceptably close to the surface?
People are free to go where they want and risk their lives as much as they want as long as it doesn’t affect and endanger others.
My point was simply comparing visiting a cemetery on the bottom of the ocean to visiting one on the ground is not a rational or valid comparison. That’s it.
Oh I didn't, I fecking hate the Tories. I think he was just making a general comment
It isn't to do with empathy for rich people. I'd have no problem with people cheering on measures to make society more equal at the expense of the super rich. It is to do with laughing at people losing their life, especially those who were just passengers. I just find it distasteful. Did we laugh at Michael Schumacker because he was wealthy and was injured doing an elite pass time? Not that I remember. I don't remember us saying that he deserved it or that we hope that he dies.
You'll be glad to hear that Cambodia has more to do now! However, the genocide sites are still horrendously depressing but very powerful, they've also introduced audio tours that are incredibly well done and have removed the need for moto guides!
Interestingly enough later on the Paris Commune burned the guillotine.You would have hated the French revolution. All those poor people with their lack of empathy for the rich
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