It now all make sense,. his sudden career free fall. He clearly had deep seated issues that finally broke him mentally. I truly hope the worst is now behind him and he can get back to what he was best at
Dele Alli | Overlap Interview with Neville opens up on childhood trauma and mental health issues
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Apparently it is quite common that those who experience childhood trauma often don't end up seeking help until later in life for a variety of reasons.
I hope you are getting the help you need.
Yeah I get that from seeing my uncle trying to control his bipolar and then feeling guilty when it becomes unmanageable.
For myself I went through a horrible controlling relationship and just kept it quiet for years because i was depressed before I finally got the strength to walk away and actually talk to people about it, so I'd never criticise someone for admitting they're struggling with something and seeking help
Sure, you can't be blamed for wondering about that regarding Sancho. It really isn't something you see very often at all for a club to split off a player for that kind of mid-season treatment so it is concerning.
Football needs to change dramatically and people need to get their priorities straight if they think that a game is worth exploiting somebodies mental health issues to gain a competitive edge.
I'm sure there have been players who have suffered some form of depression due to racist abuse they've suffered at matches. Do you think they should also retire from the game or that maybe they should be supported and the people making their lives miserable should be held to account instead?
This is so hard, yet inspiring to watch. I hope he gets a standing ovation at every stadium he plays at.
Meh. Different views makes the forum good. If you want circle jerk, try reddit.
Not denying his horrible take on it, but a ban is just idiotic
It's football that needs to change then to make it acceptable when someone is struggling with there mental health, they shouldn't be ridiculed for getting help when it's needed. You might now see him as mentally weak and needing to retire but I and hopefully most other people won't
Legs get tired. Thoughts dont switch off. Its called a chemical imbalance. Its science. If you dont believe it, then that's on you.
Feel sorry for the lad, no one knows whats going on inside others mind. He had the world at his feet 4-5 years ago the downfall has been remarkable it makes sense considering all the issues he's mentioning.
Yes, I found the sleeping tablet issue was interesting. It could be an over the counter antihistamine like nytol.
Or it could be one of the newer 'Z-drugs' like Zopiclone.
I wouldn't have thought it was a benzodiazepine like diazepam but both benzos and Zs need to be prescribed and if it's taken the night before then there's a regularity which doctors are wary of.
Benzos can also make you a bit sleepy the next day whereas the Z drugs seem to give better sleep.
All that would have to be logged for therapeutic use exemption for anti doping but I don't know if footballers have bio passports. They don't seem to get checked like cyclists and there's way more money in football so I would guess performance enhancers are everywhere.
And that's spot on. My bipolar is much more tilted towards mania and hypomania, in fact I've rarely been depressed but it gives you just an unbelievable burst of energy and elation. Sometimes I would have gone around 100 hours with no sleep, no naps, dozing off.
And then it starts causing real problems like delusions, visual and auditory hallucinations and is generally dangerous to your body.
I'm very grateful for all the help I've received from lots of people, literally life savers, been very lucky.
Definitely sounds like his dad was physically abusive in this disciplining of him.
That he hasn't been able to do this fully on his own terms, because he felt pressure from the tabloids who were letting his representatives know they knew he was in rehab, is pretty grim. I've not watched the whole interview, it sounds a bit heavier than I'm up for, but it does seem like he's done a very good job of it despite this.
Obviously wish him well, and thoughts with anyone reading this thread who struggle with the effects of childhood abuse themselves.
Obviously wish him well, and thoughts with anyone reading this thread who struggle with the effects of childhood abuse themselves.
You lack emotional intelligence.
And a RedCafe account
I’m convinced social media is a big episode of black mirror. 
Nice for him to come out and speak. Hopefully a lot more people will understand what someone crying for help looks like instead of instant judgement and cancellation.
Nice for him to come out and speak. Hopefully a lot more people will understand what someone crying for help looks like instead of instant judgement and cancellation.
They're mutually exclusive
Not easy for a multimillionaire footballer too talk about their issues and traumas in a Social media world of “you earn millions, why are you complaining”
He’s just Human and his traumas as a child are horrendous traumas for anyone to deal with.
Huge respect for him talking about this openly, not to be all “poor me” but too show others it’s ok too get help, and too talk about your past traumas in order too start moving forward again with your life more positively.
Well done that man
He’s just Human and his traumas as a child are horrendous traumas for anyone to deal with.
Huge respect for him talking about this openly, not to be all “poor me” but too show others it’s ok too get help, and too talk about your past traumas in order too start moving forward again with your life more positively.
Well done that man
Had some balls to do that interview. The media are the scum of the earth, disgusting how they headlined his interview.
Basically Jose ruined his career.
His sudden drop off makes a lot more sense now, but what is absolutely disgusting about this is some of the comments on Twitter saying he is making it all up and stupid stuff like that. And people wonder why men aren’t open about talking about these things.
This is true. Before I joined the caf I beat up homeless people, but after gaining caf wisdom I now beligerently tell them that they have the same 24 hours a day I do and they have no excuse for being homeless.
This place really helped me grow as a person, both emotionally and physically.
having emotional intelligence and a caf account are mutually exclusiveMorning, Mr Humphrey.
That Dele Alli interview was powerful and inspiring. I have so much respect for Dele coming out and saying all that. It takes a lot of guts and courage to open up like that to the world. I always had the impression that something was seriously wrong behind the scenes but to find that out that he had been molested at 6, smoking at 7 and dealing with drugs at 8 is just horrible. Most people seem to forget he was adopted at 11, you would have wondered back then why that happened so late. And when he became a footballer, he still a kid aged 16-17, dealing with all the pressure as a pro player. When there is a pressure and problem, he just suppressed them because he wanted to be grateful cause at least he got to do what he loves doing. When the pressure started building up, thats when the addiction came in just to cope. Everyone has unique background but we were all too quick to judge him.
He doesn’t need to do anything but find peace and tranquility within himself. He already marveled and dazzled us enough with his talent. He’s a man from humble beginnings that overcame the most harsh obstacles imaginable and went on to live every boy’s dream. I genuinely hope we see a resurgent Dele Ali. For above all else, himself.... I hope he keeps working on his mental health. We tend to forget this but footballers are human beings as well.
People don't realise how important that interview was and is for thousands of men and women out there keeping silent. Research shows that one in 10 children are the victim of sexual abuse and assault before their 18th birthday and are more likely to kill themselves as adults. I hope this interview will give strength to people going through similar mental health problems. The media must begin to report openly about this common occurrence.
Hats off to Gary Neville being proactive and wanting to speak to this young lad and I hope he does one of these interviews with Phil Jones as well. Clearly something has happened.
He doesn’t need to do anything but find peace and tranquility within himself. He already marveled and dazzled us enough with his talent. He’s a man from humble beginnings that overcame the most harsh obstacles imaginable and went on to live every boy’s dream. I genuinely hope we see a resurgent Dele Ali. For above all else, himself.... I hope he keeps working on his mental health. We tend to forget this but footballers are human beings as well.
People don't realise how important that interview was and is for thousands of men and women out there keeping silent. Research shows that one in 10 children are the victim of sexual abuse and assault before their 18th birthday and are more likely to kill themselves as adults. I hope this interview will give strength to people going through similar mental health problems. The media must begin to report openly about this common occurrence.
Hats off to Gary Neville being proactive and wanting to speak to this young lad and I hope he does one of these interviews with Phil Jones as well. Clearly something has happened.
It's not just football. It's in all walks of life unfortunately. It's just more prominent in competitive industries.
I don't think I've ever seen somebody's form drop so much as Dele Alli's, couldn't understand it at the time.
Now it makes sense, kudos to Neville for doing this interview, he was genuinely visibly upset at Dele's story. My perception of Dele has now completely changed and I wish him all the luck in the world for his come back.
Now it makes sense, kudos to Neville for doing this interview, he was genuinely visibly upset at Dele's story. My perception of Dele has now completely changed and I wish him all the luck in the world for his come back.
How did you conclude that?
Well he's banned so there's that.
Banned for this
Jesus wept this placeNo he was banned for a long list of infractionsBanned for this
Banned for expressing his opinion. If you don't agree, fair enough, for me he made some valid points.
It’s DJ Jeff mate, don’t expect a response. Or logic. Or any semblance of common sense.
At first they came for the gif guy, and I said nothing, because he was spouting his normal nonsense.
Mods, please ban anyone who thinks he made some valid points. Thanks.
Wrong again. See you in a couple of weeks for your next ill-informed post.Banned for this
Again. Wrong.
Wasn't banned for having a different view. It was many, many warnings mostly concentrated in the last 11 months but he also had 8 inactive warning points from previous years. Long term problem poster.
I don't understand how one can receive warning points for the stuff he's posted in this thread. It might not be the sole reason, but definitely played a part in his removal. Did he personally insult fellow members or made the board vulnerable to lawsuits?