The next level for Arsenal is champions, right?We're going to regret not signing him. He's criminally underrated by some on here. I really think he will take Arsenal to next level.
It's like some of you live in different universe where footballing world revolves around ManUtd and other clubs sign players only when ManUtd reject them, also that for every player we are first choice and us alone make the decisions.We're going to regret not signing him. He's criminally underrated by some on here. I really think he will take Arsenal to next level.
Sky Sports are explaining it like this...Where’s all their money coming from? From Wenger’s stingy years to splashing it for Arteta?
So they’ve reduced the wage bill drastically by getting rid high earners like Laca, Auba and Ozil. I think it was @ThierryHenry14 who said something about the owner dipping into his own pocket, so a lot of this is supposedly funded directly Kroenke himself.Sky Sports are explaining it like this...
https://www.skysports.com/football/...z-to-the-emirates-stadium-for-club-record-fee
Where’s all their money coming from? From Wenger’s stingy years to splashing it for Arteta?
Yeah, that makes sense.Journalists don’t understand how currency works so he’s put £ instead of € basically.
Tend to agree, three very good signings. That being said if Rice wasn't British, he'd have cost half the price.Timber - Rice - Havertz is a pretty decent window of improvements, you have to give Arteta that. Spine of their side transformed, albeit for large money.
£50m for one of the world's best CDMs who happens to be 24 years? No chanceTend to agree, three very good signings. That being said if Rice wasn't British, he'd have cost half the price.
Caicedo says NoTend to agree, three very good signings. That being said if Rice wasn't British, he'd have cost half the price.
i rate Rice highly and felt he would do well here. However we don’t have unlimited budget and we have Casemiro. As good as he is, he’s not an upgrade on Casemiro and we have many other areas to improve on before going for another DMWe're going to regret not signing him. He's criminally underrated by some on here. I really think he will take Arsenal to next level.
Well I think that’s why fans wanted Caicedo more than Rice but Football Managers wanted Rice more than Caicedo.This wall almost certainly end up on one of those "name one of your stupid predictions that turned out to be laughably wrong" threads but here goes.
I think Declan Rice is probably going to be regarded as quite disappointing given the money Arsenal have spent on him. My reasoning here is not that Rice is good insofar as I am still unsure as to how he will translate to playing at a bigger club where the playing style is different and the expectations are much higher.
From a mentality perspective, nothing about Rice's career so far suggests that he'll struggle with the higher expectations. He's handled every step up of his career in his stride, from breaking into the West Ham side as a teenager to becoming their club captain and star man to establishing himself as a national team regular. He's also a really good defensive player, with fantastic athleticism and great positional awareness to go with it.
The main reason I would question the fee Arsenal have spent on Rice, though, is that I'm still uncertain that he is technically on the level to dictate games to the extent that you would expect when spending a nine-figure sum of money. Especially in Arsenal's team right now, what I'd have said was missing was a deep-lying midfielder who on top of shielding the back line is capable of acting as a pivot in the build-up and almost conducting the team with his passing, slowing the tempo when necessary and playing that incisive pass that breaks the opponent's lines when the opportunity arises. I just don't think I've yet seen enough from Rice to make me think that he will do that at a truly elite level.
Ultimately, Rice is still young for a defensive midfielder so he has time to further develop that side of his game. Further, you could make the argument that Rice hasn't been able to demonstrate those qualities simply because the teams he's played in aren't set up in a way that would allow him to do so, and that'd be fair. I don't doubt that Rice is still a very technically proficient player. I just think I'd want to have seen more of that side of his game before spending a British record sum on him, and to be honest if I was going to pay that amount of money for a midfielder as a top team this summer, Caicedo rather than Rice would have been my pick.
Caicedo and Enzo?Tend to agree, three very good signings. That being said if Rice wasn't British, he'd have cost half the price.
If he works out and plays great for Arsenal for the next decade, then yeah his transfer fee will be irrelevant. Same with Enzo.If Rice is a great player for us and plays into his 30's, then literally no one will be questioning the transfer fee. It will have been a bargain.
We haven't just paid for potential, we have paid for proven ability. He's already established as a quality EPL midfielder. There should not be any adjustment period.
Yeah I'm not going to shit on you as multiple others have already proven you wrong.Tend to agree, three very good signings. That being said if Rice wasn't British, he'd have cost half the price.
I really wouldn't jump for joy if Timber and Havertz were coming to Utd, but would of taken Rice no doubt.Timber - Rice - Havertz is a pretty decent window of improvements, you have to give Arteta that. Spine of their side transformed, albeit for large money.
With the way things are shaping up in the Premier League, barring City, the other top-four clubs in England - United, Chelsea, Liverpool, and Arsenal - probably have an equal chance of missing out on the CL in the next five years. Subtle things like one good or bad transfer can make all the difference. I don't know why you highlighted Rice as a flop transfer.Shame he was a player I loved watching and wanted to see improve, but IMO he will be regarded as a flop for ultimately going to a club that has limited to no success. Would have loved him to improve bit by bit, be a captain that leads an European dominating English club to 1 or 2 Cls whilst improving England nt at the same time too.
I just don’t think Arteta is that great. Ten Hag looked just as good as Artetas 3 year built team in less than a year.
Arsenal seem like a regular top 4 club now buying flops of the succesful clubs like Zinchenko, Jesus, Havertz, Odegaard and maybe even Partey, looking more like a rebuilt good team than a great one like Klopps Liverpool or Peps City.
I do wonder what will happen to Arteta if he misses out in the CL next year,
seems unlikely but not impossible too (possible improvements of Liverpool, United, Newscastle, Chelsea, Tottenham, Aston Villa - with new players or managers) and Rice chose such a move when Arsenal didnt achieve anything of notice this year except just a notice of impr0vement.
Ten hag got 3rd, 2 cup finals & a semi final in less than a year & just 1 transfer window. Madness the different in quality.
It was ultimately not the right fee, not the right time or the right position because we ultimately have Casemiro - something/someone I see as the best and most experienced version of Rice himself.
I think the reason Rice was Arsenal's first pick over Caceido was the leadership and character that Rice brings.This wall almost certainly end up on one of those "name one of your stupid predictions that turned out to be laughably wrong" threads but here goes.
I think Declan Rice is probably going to be regarded as quite disappointing given the money Arsenal have spent on him. My reasoning here is not that Rice is good insofar as I am still unsure as to how he will translate to playing at a bigger club where the playing style is different and the expectations are much higher.
From a mentality perspective, nothing about Rice's career so far suggests that he'll struggle with the higher expectations. He's handled every step up of his career in his stride, from breaking into the West Ham side as a teenager to becoming their club captain and star man to establishing himself as a national team regular. He's also a really good defensive player, with fantastic athleticism and great positional awareness to go with it.
The main reason I would question the fee Arsenal have spent on Rice, though, is that I'm still uncertain that he is technically on the level to dictate games to the extent that you would expect when spending a nine-figure sum of money. Especially in Arsenal's team right now, what I'd have said was missing was a deep-lying midfielder who on top of shielding the back line is capable of acting as a pivot in the build-up and almost conducting the team with his passing, slowing the tempo when necessary and playing that incisive pass that breaks the opponent's lines when the opportunity arises. I just don't think I've yet seen enough from Rice to make me think that he will do that at a truly elite level.
Ultimately, Rice is still young for a defensive midfielder so he has time to further develop that side of his game. Further, you could make the argument that Rice hasn't been able to demonstrate those qualities simply because the teams he's played in aren't set up in a way that would allow him to do so, and that'd be fair. I don't doubt that Rice is still a very technically proficient player. I just think I'd want to have seen more of that side of his game before spending a British record sum on him, and to be honest if I was going to pay that amount of money for a midfielder as a top team this summer, Caicedo rather than Rice would have been my pick.