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He will leave for free. We will rue refusing that bid.
The deal seems dead in the water now. Madness we turned down 30mil or whatever it wasHe will leave for free. We will rue refusing that bid.
Now you see why I was complaining earlier in the summer. We have Everton’s old academy manager as DoF, it’s ridiculous.He will leave for free. We will rue refusing that bid.
The club has been rueing a lot of things in the past few years.He will leave for free. We will rue refusing that bid.
Yup. The club never learns.He will leave for free. We will rue refusing that bid.
I had assumed the decision not to accept the mctominay offer was the clubs rather the Erik's but may be wrong. What is suprising is number of people on here who thought it was the right decisionSuch a pointless player and Ten Hag is an idiot for not just selling him. He can work for a team like West Ham but for us he’s basically useless besides defending aerial threats at the end of games.
Why are people acting like Amrabat is the incarnation of Zidane?Would fans be Overly mad if we had sold him for even 20 million, keeping him just means we aren't able to sign amrabat at the moment
Sounds like you are confusing the issue a bit. Fundamentally, Amrabat is just a much better player than McT. Literally nobody thinks Amrabat is anything like Zidane and you mention something quite relevant in that Amrabat is more similar to Casemiro.Why are people acting like Amrabat is the incarnation of Zidane?
He's fine. He's tidy. But he isn't going to transform the team. If anything it'll be worse as it'll be playing two limited anchormen.
Amrabat isn't going to replace McTominay. If anything he's just a younger Casemiro.
I think the club overplayed its hand on the sale thinking West Ham were going to come back with a better offer. We didn't read the room, Moyes had battled their new DOF for those bids to come in and I am guessing the Mctominay signing wasn't exactly popular within their ranks so when we tried to haggle they just moved on. Don't think anyone wanted to keep him but we felt we could get more because we knew they had money.I had assumed the decision not to accept the mctominay offer was the clubs rather the Erik's but may be wrong. What is suprising is number of people on here who thought it was the right decision
Which is exactly what this squad needs and we all felt anyone with a bit of football knowledge would have known. Casemiro can't play each and every minute of the season and McTominay can't replace him effectively.Why are people acting like Amrabat is the incarnation of Zidane?
He's fine. He's tidy. But he isn't going to transform the team. If anything it'll be worse as it'll be playing two limited anchormen.
Amrabat isn't going to replace McTominay. If anything he's just a younger Casemiro.
In the balance of fairness, he also did a neat/sharp turn that won a free kick, played a key pass and won a header.McTominay did two things after coming on.
Ruin a promising counter-attack and kick someone in the head.
He's the worst United player I've ever seen get semi-regular minutes.
True but are we looking for a like for like replacement for mctominay if eth is trying to use one dm and two attacking midfielders in midfield, plus casimero has shown he can be more than just a dm and offers the options of playing on the left or right of a 3 man midfield with amrabat sitting deep.Why are people acting like Amrabat is the incarnation of Zidane?
He's fine. He's tidy. But he isn't going to transform the team. If anything it'll be worse as it'll be playing two limited anchormen.
Amrabat isn't going to replace McTominay. If anything he's just a younger Casemiro.
It is ridiculous, and yet you'll get people on here saying that we were right not selling him for less than 40 million; that he's an important squad member. Well you would think a 40 million pound important member of the squad would be getting more than a handful of minutes to start the season. It's madness not selling him.Now you see why I was complaining earlier in the summer. We have Everton’s old academy manager as DoF, it’s ridiculous.
What I don't get is why do we have to sell anyone in order to buy? Everyone says "We have to sell X before we can but Y". But why? Surely the FFP wolf isn't at the door!Sounds like you are confusing the issue a bit. Fundamentally, Amrabat is just a much better player than McT. Literally nobody thinks Amrabat is anything like Zidane and you mention something quite relevant in that Amrabat is more similar to Casemiro.
We’d much rather have a player who can compete with (and rotate with) Casemiro than have a big useless lump like McT who, as it stands, is probably the only guy we could bring in if Casemiro is unavailable but is no good in that position.
When we talk about “replacing” McT, we don’t mean replacing him with somebody who has the same (limited) attributes. Why would anybody want to do that? He’s not good enough. He is one of our midfield options; let’s replace him with another midfielder who has more useful attributes and would be a better option. Yes?
I know. 300 whole seconds.People actually coming in to complain about a performance when he was brought on with 5 minutes to go
I think McT is the least useful of our midfield options (I don’t count Donny but if I did McT would be our second least useful!). Eriksen and Casemiro are both good enough, yes. Even taking into account issue with stamina and physical decline they are still notches above McT.What I don't get is why do we have to sell anyone in order to buy? Everyone says "We have to sell X before we can but Y". But why? Surely the FFP wolf isn't at the door!
Fine. You think McTominay isn't good enough for Manchester United. Is Eriksen good enough? Is Casemiro?
Not every player has to be visually world class in order to be a part of a successful XI.
I don't recall anyone regarding David Batty as world class and yet he was fundamental to Leeds and Blackburn winning the league.
I know. 300 whole seconds.
Probably the same people who bitched about Darren Fletcher playing (and disrespecting Sir Alex Ferguson in the process) before Fletcher turned into a beast and was in the EPL team of the year in 2009/10.
Manchester United fans, at least the online ones, are the most disloyal of any EPL team. Go to the player performance threads. It's wall-to-wall abus directed to the title player.
You get my point, though? Why does anyone have to be sold before we can buy?I think McT is the least useful of our midfield options (I don’t count Donny but if I did McT would be our second least useful!). Eriksen and Casemiro are both good enough, yes. Even taking into account issue with stamina and physical decline they are still notches above McT.
Upgrading the midfield, where possible, would be very welcome. McT and Donny out and Amrabat in would be an improvement for possible net profit.
People actually coming in to complain about a performance when he was brought on with 5 minutes to go
He was on the pitch for 19 minutes, made 5 passes, completed 3 of them, made 0 tackles, committed 1 foul & won 1 header.I know. 300 whole seconds.
Mainly the players we have brought to the clubThe club has been rueing a lot of things in the past few years.
I agree but there were many on here claiming that he's worth more. Some jokers saying £40-50m.He will leave for free. We will rue refusing that bid.
One of the passes he missed ruined a counter attackHe was on the pitch for 19 minutes, made 5 passes, completed 3 of them, made 0 tackles, committed 1 foul & won 1 header.
JWP is just a far far better player too. I can’t believe it was even a debate on here. Fred too, by miles. Just one of many shocking shocking takes you'd regularly see on here. Hopefully he’ll still be sold by the end of the window.I think the club overplayed its hand on the sale thinking West Ham were going to come back with a better offer. We didn't read the room, Moyes had battled their new DOF for those bids to come in and I am guessing the Mctominay signing wasn't exactly popular within their ranks so when we tried to haggle they just moved on. Don't think anyone wanted to keep him but we felt we could get more because we knew they had money.
Just a standard day at the office for Scott. He’s just really not very good. And turning down £30 million for him was the kind of ridiculous decision that this club has been making for years. West Ham gave us an out for a very average player and we blew it. Good work by all involved.One of the passes he missed ruined a counter attack
Yep we should have snatched their hand off for that price. Hopefully Mainoo who looked good in pre-season won’t be out for too long.We actually could have replaced him with someone useful for 30-40m. Not sure why we didnt consider 30m for him. Unless its for a home grown quota. Nothing else make sense to me that we held on to a player who wont play any specific role in our squad
He'd actually probably be worth close to 30mil to someone like West ham. He'd be a great addition I'd think for someone that doesn't want to boss the ball most games. He's a good strong runner.Just a standard day at the office for Scott. He’s just really not very good. And turning down £30 million for him was the kind of ridiculous decision that this club has been making for years. West Ham gave us an out for a very average player and we blew it. Good work by all involved.
Yeah we need to get another one in. Not sure why we need to sell first!You get my point, though? Why does anyone have to be sold before we can buy?
What's going on? Have the Glazers stopped EtH's pocket money?
If we sell Donny and McTominay then we're left with Amrabat (If we buy him), Eriksen and Casemiro (both whom can't play every week)
Three midfielders aren't enough for a 70+ match season. It just isn't. Mount can't play deep, even less so than McTominay.
Tuchel and Bayern then? Vindication? Nah, they too must be clueless.Obviously not at that price though was there? Not because they don’t have the money, they targeted alternatives for similar or even more money. And who gives a feck if West Ham are interested in a player anyway? Is that some sort of vindication? Newcastle’s alleged interest was reported, but I’ve seen no bid and saw them go and sign another midfielder instead.
Took your time. And yes, clearly. Bayern pursuing a player that ONLY West Ham have tried to sign, but refused to go above 30m for is obviously more vindication of their own clueless activity than it is of Scott being some sort of top level player.Tuchel and Bayern then? Vindication? Nah, they too must be clueless.
Could be, with our interest for ome of their players, they are trying to speed things up.Bayern news is certainly... something
Yeah, sure. Pearson and Rothwell would have been just as good (or probably better) with same amount of minutes!Took your time. And yes, clearly. Bayern pursuing a player that ONLY West Ham have tried to sign, but refused to go above 30m for is obviously more vindication of their own clueless activity than it is of Scott being some sort of top level player.
Scott plays for United right now, and can barely get a kick. We are desperate for a midfielder and are not counting him. Bayern signed Sabitzer who they don’t want and loaned him to us, yet we don’t want him either.
Most probably.Yeah, sure. Pearson and Rothwell would have been just as good (or probably better) with same amount of minutes!