I don’t know if he was lazy, more a case of simply being not that great a player.
The real question is who hurt Souness?
Is Pogba white?I wonder if there’ll be a press campaign to stop this bullying like we’ve seen for other players?
Is Pogba white?
There is your answer.
I think Souness is an annoying prick, but do either of you have any evidence that his dislike of Pogba is racially driven?This man would definitely call Pogba the n word on TV if he could.
I'm not suggesting it is, my post refers to whether there will be support from the media to stop going after him. Which we know won't happen and we should know why at this point.I think Souness is an annoying prick, but do either of you have any evidence that his dislike of Pogba is racially driven?
Yawn.Is Pogba white?
There is your answer.
The feck.This man would definitely call Pogba the n word on TV if he could.
I obviously cannot say it's 100% the reason for it. He has made certain comments about him that I don't think he would aim at a white player. A lot of people do this towards black players. Black people are very consistently stereotyped and criticised in ways that other races are not. If you're going on Sky Sports and saying certain things in front of an audience of millions of people, some of us are going to pick up on it.I think Souness is an annoying prick, but do either of you have any evidence that his dislike of Pogba is racially driven?
And yet he’s achieved more in his career than most footballers in history. Strange.Is Pogba white?
There is your answer.
What a strange man.
Meh. Couldn’t care less. They probably didn’t even listen to the podcast.
It was a live show in Dublin and he was asked about Pogba. The hosts of the podcast have regularly slagged him off for his opinions in the past and asked him if he felt vindicated.Having not listened to the podcast - did he randomly bring up Pogba or was the question asked of his opinion on Pogba as a player? One obviously suggests a vendetta, whilst the other is his honest response to a question, as loaded as it may be.
Yeah, good summary.It was a live show in Dublin and he was asked about Pogba. The hosts of the podcast have regularly slagged him off for his opinions in the past and asked him if he felt vindicated.
He spoke at length about how Pogba was talented and should have been one of the best players in the world but didn't work hard enough. They then brought up the memes etc and had an bit of a laugh about that whole thing.
He was then asked if he felt he'd been unfair and he said no and then said he thought he was a lazy twat but he was playing up to the crowd at that stage. He gotten a few laughs already and as it was Dublin there'd have been quite a few Liverpool supporters there.
Pogba has a languid playing style. Other’s with similar styles were also often (rightly or wrongly) called lazy. Think Berbatov, Riquelme, Le Tissier etc.No evidence it is racially driven but the choice of words in this instance are unfortunate. The stereotype of people of colour being "lazy" is widespread amongst the ignorant and is particularly triggering to people who have experienced systemic racism, living in the deep south as I have for the past 20 years I have encountered that perception more times than I care to recall.
It is not so much whether Souness is racist, I doubt he is any more or less racist than anyone of his age and background, it is more a reflection of how comments about players of colour are treated by the media and society at large as opposed to white players. I am not fond of Pogba but the flood of pundits and media rushing to defend Maguire does stand in stark contrast to the way Pogba was considered fair game for all kinds of abuse.
That is a shocking statement.This man would definitely call Pogba the n word on TV if he could.
What a strange poem.That is a shocking statement.
Graeme Souness may be many things but he isn't a racist.
Can't you say anything about someone these days without it being miss-associates to something more sinister?
It's like women who cite "mansplaining" when all it is is teaching.
Souness called Paul Pogba a lazy tw*t because Paul Pogba is a lazy tw*t. Nothing at all to do with race.
Paul Pogba IS a lazy tw*t. Does that make me racist? Does me adorable Cole and Yorke muddy the waters?
He is lazy. My abiding memory of Paul Pogba is strolling around then doing some dainty little chip-pass.
Meanwhile, for France, he would run through brick walls.
I still remember the start of the BLM thing and Souness was on Sky Sports and he gave an impassioned speech to Micah Richards.
He's 100% not a racist.
He's actually very progressive in his thinking. And I don't subscribe to the "a man of his generation" thing.
The KKK aren't an OAP group. Nor is Tommy Robinson collection
In general, Souness is spot on about Pogba. If Pogba had the application of Keane or Beckham or Fletcher, he would've been incredible.
He was but he seems to genuinely hate Pogba. Like it's almost personal to him. It's really weird. I saw him make some comment about Pogba along the lines of "Put your medals on the table" apparently forgetting he's comparing achievements with someone 4 or 5 decades younger than him.I hate the guy but lets be honest he was mostly right about Pogba being shit.
Genuinely looks like a modern attempt to copy Half-caste by John agard.What a strange poem.
What a strange poem.
This is a rather bizarre analogy.Souness is that typical neibghour who doesn't like your V8, your dog but would bang your wife just to teach you a lesson and satisfy his hurt little man ego.
Cant retire if he keeps showing up. Go home old man.
I hope a lot of people.The real question is who hurt Souness?
Souness got out of management partly because he hated the way players were becoming, i.e. more interested in celebrity, being more powerful than the manager etc etc. Pogba is basically everything he hates about the modern player and I think being a very expensive United player just made him an easy target.He was but he seems to genuinely hate Pogba. Like it's almost personal to him. It's really weird. I saw him make some comment about Pogba along the lines of "Put your medals on the table" apparently forgetting he's comparing achievements with someone 4 or 5 decades younger than him.
I think he's just a bit of a dinosaur. Pogba is often on social media and has flash haircuts and Souness is a grumpy bastard who doesn't like that. He dismissed De Zerbi, Casemiro and anyone that hasn't done well in England as well. His understanding of football plateaued in the early 90s and has stayed there ever since.
You're probably right. Keane is similar. They both hate footballers way too much for them to actually be successful in management.Souness got out of management partly because he hated the way players were becoming, i.e. more interested in celebrity, being more powerful than the manager etc etc. Pogba is basically everything he hates about the modern player and I think being a very expensive United player just made him an easy target.