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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
They'd need to release him first and that ain't happening any time soon.
I don't think Israel will pull back even if the hostages where released at this point. They won't stop until they have destroyd Hamas fighting capabilities in Gaza, it will be bloody as hell for both sides but as usual when it comes to urban warfare it will be the civilians that are trapped in the area that will take the biggest hit.
Thanks for sharing mate, I get your point. I was actually meaning the lack of global attention and stern pushback against this.
Hamas have demanded his release in previous hostage negotiations without success. Have to wonder how much they might value him in future potential negotiations given the massive leverage they now have in terms of numbers.
I seriously doubt that. They would simply swap hostages and the Israelis would still go in and remove Hamas. They are committed to doing this as there is by all accounts broad agreement in Israel that they cant go back to the world of pre two weeks ago.
0 Chance. Israel won't stop and the west will sit diligently and watch as genocide happens.
Because they are terrorist scum empowered by terrorist ministers, who know they can get away with it and the police are now not allowed to stop them.
Worth noting the Israeli public didn’t vote for these guys any more than Palestinians voted for Hamas.
What do you mean here by genocide?
Is it in their interests?
Good question.
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Sure, I respect that point of view. However, if they leave Northern Gaza, one day they will be forced to leave its southern part, and then they will never be allowed to come back. This is not a typical call to evacuate a place for some time after which they can return. If they leave, it’s OVER!
US saying it's not the right time for an investigation into the hospital bombing.
They said that a couple of days ago
Someone: Israel did the bombing.
US: HEY! Don't you dare say that, we did an investigation and Israel is innocent.
Someone: Okay, can someone else do an investigation?
US: Now is not the right time for an investigation.
Not at all. That would just mean we'll be back to where we were two weeks ago - With Hamas waiting just accross the border. Only this time, very few Israelis would be willing to take the risk and live anywhere near the Gaza strip. The meaning would be the abandonment of dozens of Israeli cities and kibbutz communities.
Reminds me of “it’s not the right time to talk about school shootings” right after a school shooting
This just reminds me of any other cover up.
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That’s why they have mobilized 360k troops and are launching a ground invasion. Hamas wont stand a chance against the amount of troops and firepower the Israelis are bringing to bear.
Taking the land would be obvious. They will get all the Hamas members eventually as there’s nowhere to hide in an isolated strip of land with no exits. The tunnels won’t save them and they will eventually run out of food and water.
Only if they know who all the Hamas members are.
Shouldn't be too hard to spot Hamas and IJ fighters given they will be the ones shooting at the Israelis.
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you can't be serious?
how much evidence do you need? It's pretty much been proven that this was a misfired rocket.
Even the aftermath you can see a tiny crater and a few burned out cars. Hamas declared 500 deaths within 10 mins of the blast.
spurious to say the least. I bet the actual number was less than 50. You can't really trust anything Hamas says
Okay, but what about the ones that don't shoot at the Israels? Or shoot and then run away? Or hide amongst the 2 million civilians? Hamas is not going to wage a conventional war against a vastly superior conventional army.
Yes in 2006, just a year after Israel gave back the control over Gaza to the Palestinians, a significant majority (57%) voted for Hamas. A terrorist organisation that has the destruction of the State Israel written in their Convenant.
"The charter states that "our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious" and calls for the eventual creation of an Islamic state in Palestine, in place of Israel and the Palestinian Territories,[3] and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel."
Hamas doesn't care about democracy or elections. Though, this doesn't say anything about the support of Hamas in Gaza. Their support could be even higher today. Nobody knows as there were no more elections after 2006.
I can argue that without broad support, Hamas wouldn't be able to cling to power for so many years, build the sophisticated tunnel system, construct and fire thousands of missiles on Israel and prepare these atrocious attacks on October 7th.
I wrote yesterday that the Gazans aren't innocent due to voting and ongoing support of the terrorist organisation Hamas. I have been heavily criticized and even called a train wreck and psychopath.
The German population had been held responsible for the atrocities during WW2, AND RIGHTFULLY SO. The term collective guilt was created by the victors because it had been concluded the Nazis would have never been able to do what they did without broad support from the German population.
Now you tell me what's the difference to Gazans and their support of Hamas. Where do the double standards come from?
And again, to make it very clear. I'm not looking for the acquittal of guilt of Germans for the atrocities during WW2. Not at all!
But I'm asking you why do many here consider the Palestinians in Gaza as innocent while Germans were guilty.
the first replay
It definitely won't be a conventional war. It will be a house to house counterinsurgency with large amounts of Israeli soldiers occupying the two northern sections and calling in air strikes into areas where ground fighting isn't effective. There will significant casualties on both sides.
Color me shocked.
and then when the Western Allies carpet bombed Dresden and other German cities to rid them of Nazis, they weren't criticised. We didn't have 200k pro-Nazi rallies in every city.
Different times of course. But the principles are the same in war. Civilians die, that's what makes it so terrible
So by your logic, Hamas did nothing wrong on the 7th of October. Because the Israeli civilians did elect their government and the IDF have the broad support from them till kill, occupy, ethnic cleans?
FFS just close the thread, you are embarrassing yourself.
You forgot the collateral damage part.
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everyday a UK media outlet has to come out and apologise for misleading the public.
Do you think potentially Israel could be being dragged into a wider ground conflict with Hamas/Hizbollah and other Iranian proxies?
Will be interesting to see how attitudes change during the war. Especially if Hezbollah cause major damage to Israel.
you can expect to see celebratory rallies in a number of UK cities I should imagine. Will quickly get very hostile
you can expect to see celebratory rallies in a number of UK cities I should imagine. Will quickly get very hostile