Has anyone ever played an online game? In all my years I’ve never bothered. Would a few of you be up for it? Is it any good?
Gaming Football Manager 2024
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
That is true. I find when I sign players it takes 6 months for them to become good which means that the game weighs heavily on squad dynamics and cohesion.
Heading to the SI offices in a few weeks, will pass on the feedback.
When online first came out I used to play in a couple of clans that never worked out, people were always missing and eventually, it just descended into a farce after a few weeks and the game never progressed very far.
FM Live was a great craic though back in the day despite not lasting too long. it eventually lost a huge chunk of its playerbase cause those who got in a server first ended up dominant from picking up everyone with pace and tall cbs for the crazy op corners. Everyone's tactic was built around running down the wing really fast, getting to the byline and hoping for a corner before the winger crossed. Was pretty much impossible for new arrivals in a server to catch up.
Ask for the masterminds behind the squad building AI.
Doing a youth style save with Ajax, setting myself some rules (21yo transfers, not club allowed to break transfer record)
Really enjoying it after about one season. Brought Mainoo in on loan in January and he's absolutely brilliant!
Really enjoying it after about one season. Brought Mainoo in on loan in January and he's absolutely brilliant!
I played it on the PS5, I would say it is worth it runs much smoother than the awfully slow PC I have.
Sounds like thought it would be!
That’s totally fair. I know it’s pure dry but I always just get Utd back up and running and dominant again and then I just mess around in the lower leagues with free transfers and getting youths out of Spain Belgium and France semi pro and then once I’m in the PL I go for the South American wonderkids and it’s game over. It’s a really easy game if you follow the template (and go 5 at the back for really tough away games!) I won’t bother with online so. Cheers @padr81Yeah I started an unemployed save, got in at Villareal after half a season and got Mainoo in the summer for 20m. Became a key player for me pretty quickly and is looking excellent.Doing a youth style save with Ajax, setting myself some rules (21yo transfers, not club allowed to break transfer record)
Really enjoying it after about one season. Brought Mainoo in on loan in January and he's absolutely brilliant!
I’d quite like to buy him but I could do so much more with the 15-20m so may try and loan him again.
Really cool approach to playing this.
Seems like a really complicated version of genie scout to be honest.
New United manager in 2026 after sacking Ten Hag, we never learn
I think Evan Ferguson is broken for me. No matter how or where I play him he's absolutely poo and is always offside. He's scored about 20 offside goals for me.
Saw a post on reddit earlier that the game doesn't generate sweeper keepers, so all newgen GKs have crap passing and first touch stats.
One of the comments mentioned it being an issue since at least 22 and that they literally haven't included a sweeper keeper profile in the newgen system. It's apparently the same reason full-backs are always shit, because they haven't updated the newgen profile tp reflect modern players.
One of the comments mentioned it being an issue since at least 22 and that they literally haven't included a sweeper keeper profile in the newgen system. It's apparently the same reason full-backs are always shit, because they haven't updated the newgen profile tp reflect modern players.
From what I have read it is because when most newgens are created they have the stat base that suits no nonsense full back or whatever the most basic one is so even though they have attributes which are set for them to be wingbacks or whatever the AI will train them in that most basic form which means unless you are handling their training they won't grow as they should. I imagine the same is for keepers.
Either way it's a problem they need to fix.
SI every year.
Since it was the beta I went mental and broke us financially but did the treble.
Switched between these two in the season. Ferguson works far better as a striker within a two than by himself but Darvich is very good so kept trying. Most of the time though I brought on Cunha at half time as he's excellent. When they play as a two though I'd blitz teams.
sickening unrealistic transferI know, he's worth no more then 15 million
Couple more days and I'll be able to get my hands on it! On the phone of course but still excited to take Luton into the top 4!
I already bought on based on the promises of improvement (which I'm regretting based on the beta) so I guess I will play it.
I am hoping they've magically managed to fix such core issues as squad building AI, player interactions, newgens, etc.. but they'll probably release the full version and be like "we fixed the number of goalkeeper injuries, cheers"
I am hoping they've magically managed to fix such core issues as squad building AI, player interactions, newgens, etc.. but they'll probably release the full version and be like "we fixed the number of goalkeeper injuries, cheers"
Why is it a problem?
Players aren't naturally a sweeper keeper or a roaming wing back, they have to be coached to be that.
For me this is the most realistic and best way of implementing positions for new gens.
I'm hanging on for now and will probably pick it up off a key site in May, so currently simming FM23 to the future (currently at 2043) with the plan of getting to 2122 before I actually start a game on that. The way it's going, United still won't have won a league title.
Ten Hag lasted 10 years, winning a league cup, two conference leagues and a europa league. He was replaced by Ronaldo, who won nothing, but then left us for Real Madrid (who have won La Liga every year on the bounce until the 2042/43 season). Solskjaer came back to replace Ronaldo, after guiding Molde to another Norwegian title and guiding Portsmouth to promotion to the PL. He left and was replaced by some guy called Matheus. The club went 10 years without any European football and has just qualified for the first time in yonks (for the conference leavue) in 2043. Last time I checked, Darren Fletcher was still Technical Director and Eric Ramsey was still knocking about as a coach. Nick Cox is still head of youth development and has been caretaker manager a few times too.
Because literally no AI manager/coach trains them that way, so no players actually develop into those roles unless you train them that way at your club.
This. Which is a problem because a) it means you have to identify targets early and sign them or develop them in your ranks and b) other teams won't do that so the game becomes easier and unbalanced.
It's a problem because modern football is littered with players like this and thus the game should be too but it isn't because of AI development issues.
I've never seen this issue, are you saying that 30 years or so into the game that there's zero sweeper keepers out there because none of the regens are trained that way?
There are far less than at the start of the game, yes. Same with the types of full backs that are current (inverted, wing backs with good crossing etc). Someone did a study and posted it on Reddit after simming into the future.
As it is present in the game you should be seeing a similar amount or more in the future but you're seeing far less which is a big problem and it's due to AI coaching.
Interesting, as I say I've never really seen this or at least if it was there never taken much notice of it, but to be fair I find the game gets ridiculously easy the further you get into it so often stop probably before it becomes too big an issue.
Defo sounds like a bug, and interesting if this has been going on for a few versions as shows the 'background' tweaks SI apparently do aren't as big as they possibly claim!
I don't think it's a bug. I just think it's something they've completely overlooked as they think the fans care more about putting face paint on their managers.
The issue is only really noticeable if you're someone who plays long saves. Realistically, you're looking at a good five or six seasons at least before regens start becoming somewhat noticeable.
It seems likely that his issue also contributes to the squad-building issues, with AI managers not giving young players a chance, and instead keeping their focus on older, established players.
Essentially, SI built the newgen system on a number of "templates" for the players that get generated, but because the bases are quite simple, the AI just focuses on training them for the most simple role for whatever their strongest position is. The problem with this is that the training models don't really allow for development outside of the highlighted attributes for whatever role is selected. As the role of "goalkeeper - defend" doesn't require passing or first touch, none of the newgen keepers have decent stats there, as the role of no-nonsense full-back doesn't require crossing, no newgen full-backs can cross a ball, etc.
It's less noticeable with the midfield and attacking roles because even the more basic roles cover a decent range of attributes.
Yep this is basically what people simming years into the future have discovered. Not a single regen GK with passing above 10.
Miles needs to go imo. Game has stagnated under him for years now.
Glazers > Miles
Darvich is class. Kayode I had a deal for but pulled out as I had agreed for Dedic on a cheaper deal, but feel like I'm regretting that now as the season is going and the scouts get more info. Also brought in Diomande, almost got Pavlovic to partner him but he went with Arsenal. Always feel like there are a handful of players that pretty much everyone goes for. Always decent priced with big potential.
Since it was the beta I went mental and broke us financially but did the treble.
Switched between these two in the season. Ferguson works far better as a striker within a two than by himself but Darvich is very good so kept trying. Most of the time though I brought on Cunha at half time as he's excellent. When they play as a two though I'd blitz teams.
I switched to 442 at the start of my 3rd season with Villareal now and seen a big step up though. Was doing alright but always feel like I'm not getting enough shots off and while the xG was alright, it's volatile to have too many below 1 xG games. 4-4-2 and suddenly I'm getting roughly 20 shots per game and blowing teams out with xG now (and scoring). Going with this basically, Baena as a deeper forward and Leonardo as a poacher who is a beast.
Marcos Leonardo - Baena
Akhomach - Mainoo - Bove - Pedrola
Guindo - Cuenca - Diomande - Foyth
Jorgensen
Akhomach - Mainoo - Bove - Pedrola
Guindo - Cuenca - Diomande - Foyth
Jorgensen
I'm living in (perhaps futile) hope that 25 will be very good and they'll have fixed all of the long-standing issues.
This is completely baseless, but given the talk of the engine and everything being rebuilt, I'm wondering if the existing system essentially has too much "locked in" and that's why these things haven't changed.
Yep. Every player was under 100m too so they're achievable for the big clubs. I think Diomande was 54m, Darvich 32m, Olise 41m, Pinyaev 9m, Ferguson 84m, Emery 90m, Kayode 50m, Ito 25m, Moscardo 20m, Cunha 20m.
Seems a lot but I think there might be a Saudi glitch which lets you sell players for 60m as I sold DCL, Mykolenko, Beto and Garner there for 60m each which basically helped build that squad.
I found the exact same as you in regards to switching to 4-4-2 or 4-2-4.
The 4-2-3-1 is more defensively solid and helps me maintain clean sheets better but the 4-2-4 was giving me an xG of 3+ most games that I used it in. I also think it's the formation Ferguson performs amazingly in, he's not that great alone despite Darvich being quality behind him.
Just had a look on my save into the future and there are plenty of goalkeepers with decent passing.