That_Bloke
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They’re releasing more details about it and have revealed that the three hostages emerged holding white flags and were shirtless. I’m just amazed they’re willing to reveal that despite this they still killed them?? I guess the logic is to suggest that Hamas integrates itself even into the ‘white flag civilian population’ but to me it doesn’t reveal anything other than the policy is to kill first and hope it turns out to be Hamas later.Right. You have to wonder just how many Palestinian civilians have been shot if they can make that kind of mistake regarding escaped Israeli hostages. Thousands, surely.
According to Haaretz (quoting the IDF preliminary report), the hostages were shirtless, waving a white flag and one was even shouting for help in Hebrew.Right. You have to wonder just how many Palestinian civilians have been shot if they can make that kind of mistake regarding escaped Israeli hostages. Thousands, surely.
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I suppose that there was too many eye-witnesses and an autopsy would quickly reveal that Israeli bullets killed the hostages. So the IDF went ahead and spilled the beans to minimize the controversy.They’re releasing more details about it and have revealed that the three hostages emerged holding white flags and were shirtless. I’m just amazed they’re willing to reveal that despite this they still killed them?? I guess the logic is to suggest that Hamas integrates itself even into the ‘white flag civilian population’ but to me it doesn’t reveal anything other than the policy is to kill first and hope it turns out to be Hamas later.
IDF soldier interviewed last monthIDF spokesperson announces that three Israeli hostages had escaped their captivity, but were shot and killed by the IDF. I think that reveals an extraordinary amount regarding the extent of precautions taken by the IDF to protect civilians.
Not a very important footnote, but it’s they/he for them.She was about to receive the Hannah Arendt Prize for Political Thought
Great post, it required a lot of mental gymnastics to defend it at the start but now even some of the most staunch Israel supporters are running out of ideas. If the shooting of unarmed people waving white flags won't convince people the IOF are deliberately killing civilians nothing will.The thread is one-sided because the situation on the ground is one-sided right now. Throughout October and November, the thread was full of pro-Israel or Israel-friendly posts arguing that they were trying to minimize civilian casualties, had not committed any atrocities, and were behaving quite well all things considered. That position is untenable today so the argument is no longer made.
One Israeli poster here said that after October 7th, they just wanted security and didn't care what it took. Another one said that a round of ethnic cleansing was the best option for everyone. These are not far-right politicians.
Thanks for the heads-up. A blunder on my part and I've edited my post.Not a very important footnote, but it’s they/he for them.
I’m really not a fan of their work overall but the article in New Yorker was brilliant.
Horrifying, but hardly a surprise action by the terrorist army.IDF spokesperson announces that three Israeli hostages had escaped their captivity, but were shot and killed by the IDF. I think that reveals an extraordinary amount regarding the extent of precautions taken by the IDF to protect civilians.
The white flag is written in the Geneva convention, you can not shot even militants if they surrender. It is a straight violation of international law and a war crime. That being said, we only got this information because it was 3 Israeli citizens. Imagine how many Palestinian women and children did they kill holding the white flags? Anyone tells you that Israel does not intentionally kill civilians is either a liar or lying to himself.Horrifying, but hardly a surprise action by the terrorist army.
Yeah those kids being bombed into oblivion just need to learn how to cope. Bill Maher the voice of reason, yikes...
Imagine taking the words of a clown as facts.
You’re being sarcastic.. or ironic?
If by "nailed it" you mean "said a bunch of idiotic stuff", then sure.
And all the big movements / mass deportation of peoples he mentioned came after decades (sometimes centuries) of grievances and conflict. He made it sound like it happened in a couple of months and only palestinians are stubborn enough to keep this going for decades.You’re being sarcastic.. or ironic?
The whataboutism… the wooden delivery… the sycophantic false laughing.
Muslims had an empire hundreds of years ago, so Israels actions are ok? Is that his rationale? Ireland “let it go” so Palestine should?
Watched (out of interest), turned off after four minutes. Something I could imagine Netanyahu saying to the UN …. on a good day
Imagine telling the Ukrainians to just suck it up and accept the Russian invasion as a fact.It's easy to take up the 'just suck it up' attitude when you are the benefactor.
The IDF killed his wife, daughter, son and grandson.
I mean it explains why they've gone with the blank slate approach of levelling the city to the ground, as well as destroying institutions like university, mosques, schools and hospitals. Rendering the whole area inhabitable and near impossible for Palestinians (who have no right of return) to return to of course makes these sorts of plans "not a dream".This can’t be true surely? Because Israel isn’t interested in land grabs, it’s all about Hamas then Palestinians can return?
“‘A house on the beach is not a dream’. An Israeli real estate company specialising in Jewish settlements in the West Bank is planning for the day after. This is beyond aspirational, their staff is already working on plans.”
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Let me guess, /Israel will say these folks are Hamas...
MP live-tweeting a massacre with zero response. Churchill crying tears of joy, looking at the state he wanted, and how far it's come. Finally a lively terror among the natives