Absolutely! City failed without Rodri in the team. We’ve got about 4/5 first teamers out
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Just want to say Happy New Year to all the Ten Hag out lot, even though we disagree you are all my friends 4 lyf
Statistically the best manager. Don't @ me.
Erik Ten Hag May Be "Under Pressure" But He Is Statistically Man United's Best Manager Ever
https://www.si.com/fannation/soccer...is-statistically-best-man-united-manager-ever
Erik Ten Hag May Be "Under Pressure" But He Is Statistically Man United's Best Manager Ever
https://www.si.com/fannation/soccer...is-statistically-best-man-united-manager-ever
Liverpool went from a 92 point season where they were 2 matches away from the quadruple to finishing 5th the next season with 67 points after they got hit by an injury crisis.
Are we? Doesn't feel like it at all. I feel we have improved over the last few games in progressing the ball to final 3rd but definitely didn't think we get into the box much.
The something that's not working is partly quality of players (Antony/AWB not good enough, no Shaw/Licha means not enough early passing to put attackers in better positions) and partly coaching, not enough movement in final 3rd.
There is old saying, statictis is like mini skirt. It leave so much to open to see, but hide the best part. In our case that we are shit.
Hopefully we don't spend more money in Jan to get ETH more players. And I'm not even sack ETH. Who is there who we can trust to buy properly?
This is going to ruffle some feathers
I'm not even going to read it because I know it's ridiculous based on what I've seen on and off the pitch since he arrived.
It’s bullshit though and surely you know that, unless you just like to wum
The scouts. There's lots of them apparently. Think we just have to listen to them. Obviously I've no real idea of what's going on behind the scenes but we keep repeatedly hearing of them being ignored.
SAF said something in an interview a few months back about "trusting your scouts." It didn't feel like he was randomly saying it, it was directed.
We don’t. We are ninth in the league for touches in the box, 11th for xG, and 13th for xPts.
So not only that we do not create enough, but we are also bad at converting those few chances we create. That’s why we are one of the teams that has scored the fewest goals this season (and were not doing much better last season, especially after the League Cup).
It’s also out of date. Having won 1 of his last 5 matches since the article, he’s dropped below Fergie.
His loss percentage is 28%, which is worse than every post Fergie manager bar Moyes.
Crazy swing, sounds like it can swing BACK
the only way to salvage this season is by winning the FA cup and finishing 4th. I don’t think we’re gonna do either of those things.
Stats eh?
Since Sir Matt Busby became our manager (and thus football started), the only managers with a higher loss ratio than EtH are O’Farrell and Moyes. Yes, his loss ratio is worse than Rangnick’s. In case of Moyes it is very marginal, so give to EtH the next month or two and he’ll reach O’Farrell level. Whom literally relegated us.
One of the worst 3 United managers in the last 70 years?
NB: As someone mentioned he is already behind SAF. And by February will be behind Mourinho (1% difference right now).
That's interesting. Manager of the month and statistically our best manager ever. Give him life time contract!
That's going to ruffle some feathers
#wum
There's no question to answer. You want him to be evaluated only when he has his entire first team fit and playing every game. This will never, ever happen, neither for him nor for any manager in the world. Injuries are part of the game. The manager is managing a squad of 25 players and not 11 players only. This is basic football knowledge. The 2nd point is these injured players you are using as an excuse were already performing pretty poorly this season. Not like we lost someone on fire or something.
You are welcome.
Well we gave him the control, he fecked up royally and now it's time to revoke those privileges. Worst assembled team we've had since SAF retired, give him 2 more transfer windows and we'll cement our place in mid-table for years.
His style concedes so many shots even at the best of times so I am peplexed as to how he didn't see that bringing an average shot stopper would be disastrous. More than anything else I think his biggest weakness is lack of anticipation.
Looks like it did
Lets. Or he won't. Who the feck knows.
Pretty much everyone who doesn’t have a poster of EtH in his bedroom.
But who takes responsibility to decide on a player? Obviously we are not going to sign in Jan everybody the scouts recommend. This current set up cannot be trusted. Our only hope is INEOS improves it. In the meanwhile I wouldn't waste any money.
Are you capable of a reasonable discussion without trying to be some mug claiming anyone thinking our form is capable of improving must be a Ten Hag poster boy?
Bollocks. Carrick has a 66.6% win percentage with Man United as a manager.
I know what you mean, you can't trust these guys.
I just think if we begin with a shortlist of players found by the scouts as opposed to the manager. That'd be a start.
Then ETH and Murtough can get involved from there, working off that list.
66% - drew with Chelsea as I recall.
We should hire him!
Ten Hag and Murtough shouldn't be involved at all. They've done enough damage
Yeah I edited it. 66.6%. Still our best manager ever, according to this logic.
Yeah becuase ten hag has only been with us for a handful of games innit
Feck me, only on this forum when discussing Ten Hag will people say City ‘failed’ after winning a treble.
Saying a manager is "statistically" the best because they have the highest win percentage is like saying a team is "statistically" the best in the league because they score the most goals.
Are we? How do we assess that? Big chances missed? I wonder if that's just the norm, in the sense you don't obviously conver all your chances...thanks for any reply.
No it isn't, football is about winning games.
Are you able to without trying to wum? Goes both ways
Where did I wum? I'm not the one posting the stat.
Completely incorrect.
Compare something that involves winning. Not winning vs scoring goals.