Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager

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EtH only had to deal with one in ronaldo. Poch had to deal with neymar, messi and mbappe, that can't be easy at all.
Only Ronaldo was a real problem, the dressing room is still full of egos. Look at how Rangnick failed.
 

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EtH only had to deal with one in ronaldo. Poch had to deal with neymar, messi and mbappe, that can't be easy at all.
No. Ronaldo was the biggest one. I mean have a look at this United dressing room last year compared to this year, Ronaldo was not the only problem.

Do you think Ronaldo was leaking everything to the press alone is it?
 

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Far-fetched hope for Pochettino to replace Potter to see how he would handle a big team in a mess.
 

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I can answer that question for you. Ajax is able to put together a great starting line up and if we are lucky even three decent subs but after that it's either second tier or of course highly talented but very young academy players. ETH would never complain about this because he knows the club and to protect his team he would always say we have 20 good squad players while in reality he knew only 12/13 were ready for it. It sometimes made us mad as supporters that he said one thing and did the other but in retrospect it was purely because of lack of real depth in the squad. Too little Ziyechs too many Garnachos if you will.

You saw it in 2019 against Spurs. I an sure we wouldn't have lost the second match had we had Neres fit and Dolberg in form. Instead when the pressure was on we had to resort bringing in a defender with Magallan who was never good enough. That cost us and ETH knew that but he would never blame it on ayone in particular, instead he told us all to keep our chins up because there were two more finals up and that resulted in the first double in years where many of us feared the elimination would cost us all titles.
That's why next to our academy scouting is so important. We payed 7 million for Martinez and Antony for about 18. Then there was Tagliafico for 4 million and FDJ for a symbolic 1 euro (we shared the profits with W2 and RKC) and we know We will lose them fast if they succeed so basically our time period for European success closes every 2/3 years and a new cycle starts.
I feel like ten Hag's squad management experience with Ajax is key to what he's done with our players so far, and his squad building experience is going to be critical for our continued success. I hope we do assemble a scouting team that is up to par with his standards.
 

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Only Ronaldo was a real problem, the dressing room is still full of egos. Look at how Rangnick failed.
of course the dressing room is full of egos....you don't get to this level of playing without having a slight ego but Rangnick failing was because he was too rigid. yes, Ronaldo was clearly the main issue in the dressing room.

No. Ronaldo was the biggest one. I mean have a look at this United dressing room last year compared to this year, Ronaldo was not the only problem.

Do you think Ronaldo was leaking everything to the press alone is it?
No idea about the leaking park and to piggyback on the post above, the dressing room will all have egos especially the senior players. Ronaldo was on another level though with his arrogance.

EtH has dealt with him and Maguire brilliantly.
 

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of course the dressing room is full of egos....you don't get to this level of playing without having a slight ego but Rangnick failing was because he was too rigid. yes, Ronaldo was clearly the main issue in the dressing room.



No idea about the leaking park and to piggyback on the post above, the dressing room will all have egos especially the senior players. Ronaldo was on another level though with his arrogance.

EtH has dealt with him and Maguire brilliantly.
That is my point, he has dealt with the players and got control of the dressing room, something that Poch never managed at PSG.

United needed a manager than is strong minded and will not be influenced by the dressing room and outside noise, Ten Hag is the guy for that.
 

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That is my point, he has dealt with the players and got control of the dressing room, something that Poch never managed at PSG.

United needed a manager than is strong minded and will not be influenced by the dressing room and outside noise, Ten Hag is the guy for that.
for sure....EtH right now is proving that he was the right appointment. We don't know if Poch could have or couldn't have b/c as i said dealing with 3 is harder than one. I like Poch but i'm over the moon with Erik.
 

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The combo of EtH and Mitchell van der Gaag as a collective gets overlooked a lot.

Van der Gaag is a top coach and he's been heavily involved with the training of the defenders and the shape.
 

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Love how he's limited the replies.
the problem with media geniuses like this though is that they will be waiting in the long grass for the bad results or blip in form (that will happen at some stage) to pounce and pontificate, rather than admit they got it massively wrong.
 

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the problem with media geniuses like this though is that they will be waiting in the long grass for the bad results or blip in form (that will happen at some stage) to pounce and pontificate, rather than admit they got it massively wrong.
Absolutely.
 

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Any updates on Fred, Shaw and Sancho? All missing tonight along with Martial..
Fred's in the building. Shaw had a knock and was a doubt for this one, hopefully nothing serious. No idea about Sancho, I'm sure we'll hear about that pre-match.
 

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"Laid the foundations" :nono:

All joking aside, the phrase certainly has meaning. It's a piss take on here as it's used wildly out of context; remember soms nutters claiming LvG laid some sort of foundations. There was one in the wild the other day on here trying to claim that Ole laid some sort of foundations for ETH :lol:
Yeah I saw that re ole :nervous:
 
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We look absolutely unstoppable at the moment. Even when we start games poorly or concede the first goal, once we get into the game, you know we're going to win it.

How did we go from the miserable shit of last season to this in space of 8 months is beyond me. So that's what a good coach actually does.
 

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There's a feeling if invincibility under this man. Even when West Ham scored and the rotation was hampering us I knew we'd win. That's a special feeling I last had under SAF.
 

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The combo of EtH and Mitchell van der Gaag as a collective gets overlooked a lot.

Van der Gaag is a top coach and he's been heavily involved with the training of the defenders and the shape.
Agreed.

Van der Gaag is a top coach and a great guy to have in the backroom staff. Everything I've read about him as a coach is very good.
 

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We were struggling, Ten Hag changes a couple of things and we win comfortably and look like we can score at will.

Standard fair for King Eric the second.
 

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Best move this club has done since hiring SAF. What an improvement from last season and this is not a squad built by ETH.
 

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He’s ridiculous, he’s even fixed Fred’s shooting.
 

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Most important thing about ten Hag is we've managed to build a mentality in which we get the result despite playing below the standard.

Tonight was a clear example, shitty most game but still got the result even though we were losing with less than 15' to play. That's building a winning mentality.

I've seen plenty games of Real Madrid doing this. They play shit, they're losing and still they get the result somehow. That's a Champions mentality. Glad we seem to have it under ten Hag.
 

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I really do have my doubts of the job Poch could have done.

We saw at PSG, he just couldn't handle big players and egos. PSG and United were similar in their circus off the field. Poch got the chance to show how he deals with a big club and failed.

Ten Hag has come in and got hold of the club. The way he dealt with Maguire, Ronaldo and the like shows he is in control. I cannot see Poch having that aura or authority.
He what now? :lol:
 

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3 wins in 3 different competitions. He has managed the ridiculous fixtures brilliantly. Let's make it 4 out of 4!
 

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Most important thing about ten Hag is we've managed to build a mentality in which we get the result despite playing below the standard.

Tonight was a clear example, shitty most game but still got the result even though we were losing with less than 15' to play. That's building a winning mentality.

I've seen plenty games of Real Madrid doing this. They play shit, they're losing and still they get the result somehow. That's a Champions mentality. Glad we seem to have it under ten Hag.
Completely agree with all of that.

Imagine playing an opponent and being 1-0 in the 75th minute with your opponent not playing all that well, and they somehow still score 3 goals against you. It's completely demoralising. It feels fecking amazing to know that we can do this. :drool:
 

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I fecking love this man. The passion and desire to win that he brings, has emanated onto the players and the fans.
 

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Tonight was our 20th game since the World Cup. The results he's getting out of a squad that put together the worst season in 30 years, a handful of signings and an 18 year old kid is utterly ridiculous.
 

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Not to create a polemic discussion here but even a young sir Alex couldn't have done the work ETH is doing during this months here.