Premier League Gameweek 36

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Absolutely stupid point he made. Click bait rubbish from a man trying to be Eamon Dunphy.
Bit of an overreaction I think. Haaland had a poor spell and looked pretty rough in the build up. Dont think he ever doubted his scoring ability.
 

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City look rampant. Hopefully Arsenal win their next game to at least take it to the last round
City's last game is against West Ham and David Moyes though :( . Maybe Fulham could make it tricky for City but that's very doubtful.

A lot depends on whether Villa drop a few points and that motivates Spurs to actually have something to play for when they play City but even then I can't see City dropping points.
 

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We're in May, other teams are puffing and winning wars of attrition. Meanwhile, City's lot look like it's October, fresh as daisies.
Thats been the tale of the premier league for over half a decade. How do they possibly do it, I mean that bench today was a real tied together collection of misfits.
 

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Or people are too dim to understand he meant in parts of the game like holding the ball up.
Deciphering Roy Keane's clickbait bias take on a 23 year old whose Dad he kicked up in the air isnt being "dim." Its clear what he meant. And its still wrong. He's a grifted player who needs to improve things to make him the most elite player in the world. That doesnt mean aspects of his game are league 2 level. It was an over the top dumb point that doesnt need defending.
 

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Sad that Arsenal won’t win the league. Fully deserving of it.
The team who holds first place sheet the last match is played, is the deserved champion.
Arsenal had in their hands. They bottled it against Villa at home. Something City wouldn't do. City are some level better. Arsenal couldn't even beat us in the CL despite having the worst season since 12 years and many injured or unfit players.
 

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Sadly we need the money from the Europa. I'm sure I read there isn't much difference between the two in terms of prize money (might be wrong)
Firstly, we don't need the money. I often see this misconception these days, either on here or even journalists like Ogden not doing their due diligence and publishing articles saying that we won't spend / be able to spend much this summer. It's not true at all, and this update from The Swedish Rumble is actually from today, detailing how FFP will effect us this summer, and how much we might be able to spend. (s/o to @Messier1994, I believe that Twitter account belongs to him)

Secondly, I'm lazy to look up if it's still the same, but I'm pretty sure a few years ago you earned more money by making it through the Champions League group stage, than by winning the Europa League. So there is probably still a big difference in prize money.
 

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The team who holds first place sheet the last match is played, is the deserved champion.
Arsenal had in their hands. They bottled it against Villa at home. Something City wouldn't do. City are some level better. Arsenal couldn't even beat us in the CL despite having the worst season since 12 years and many injured or unfit players.
This logic doesn’t apply to the PL anymore.
 

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Not sure if Guardiola is a genius or just insane. Takes off his player of the match who just scored 4 goals and instead of heaping praise on him he gives him a bollocking on everything he has done wrong in the last 80 minutes or so. :wenger: :lol:
 

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Firstly, we don't need the money. I often see this misconception these days, either on here or even journalists like Ogden not doing their due diligence and publishing articles saying that we won't spend / be able to spend much this summer. It's not true at all, and this update from The Swedish Rumble is actually from today, detailing how FFP will effect us this summer, and how much we might be able to spend. (s/o to @Messier1994, I believe that Twitter account belongs to him)

Secondly, I'm lazy to look up if it's still the same, but I'm pretty sure a few years ago you earned more money by making it through the Champions League group stage, than by winning the Europa League. So there is probably still a big difference in prize money.
Able to spend based on FFP allowances isn't the same thing as can or will spend based on actual money available. We won't keep being run at a loss like we have been recently.

I was talking the difference between Europa and Conference. Not CL which is huge.
 

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I wouldn't be opposed to penalties being removed from golden boot totals.

I did a bored experiment once to deduct penalties from top all-time EPL scorers and it made Andy Cole's record look better than the likes of Shearer and Kane.
I'm all for the Golden Boot being decided on non-penalty goals. It's ridiculous that one player who's not on pens with 18 goals could get beaten by a player who's only got 13 goals from open play, for example.
 

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I wouldn't be opposed to penalties being removed from golden boot totals.

I did a bored experiment once to deduct penalties from top all-time EPL scorers and it made Andy Cole's record look better than the likes of Shearer and Kane.
Never really thought about that, but I'd be on board with it.

Penalties need to be rethought in general. It ridiculous that tight games can basically be decided on marginal handball calls or borderline trips.
 

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Not sure if Guardiola is a genius or just insane. Takes off his player of the match who just scored 4 goals and instead of heaping praise on him he gives him a bollocking on everything he has done wrong in the last 80 minutes or so. :wenger: :lol:
I'm convinced Pep has some kind of mild personality disorder. His behavior on the touchline and in press conferences is so fecking strange at times.
 

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I wouldn't be opposed to penalties being removed from golden boot totals.

I did a bored experiment once to deduct penalties from top all-time EPL scorers and it made Andy Cole's record look better than the likes of Shearer and Kane.
Why? That's bizarre. May as well take away tap ins too.
 

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I wouldn't be opposed to penalties being removed from golden boot totals.

I did a bored experiment once to deduct penalties from top all-time EPL scorers and it made Andy Cole's record look better than the likes of Shearer and Kane.
Take away goals not scored in Manchester and he'd be well above both of them.
 

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Able to spend based on FFP allowances isn't the same thing as can or will spend based on actual money available. We won't keep being run at a loss like we have been recently.

I was talking the difference between Europa and Conference. Not CL which is huge.
I think that isn't much more than a minor inconvenience for Ineos, and they're also aware how important this summer window is going to be for us. I'm expecting us to spend more this summer than ever before. Wouldn't surprise me if we surpassed 300 million spent on incoming players. Also, it's important that just one or two outgoings will allow us to basically do what we want, especially by selling a homegrown player like McTominay or Greenwood.

Didn't realize you meant EL vs ECL.
 

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I think that isn't much more than a minor inconvenience for Ineos, and they're also aware how important this summer window is going to be for us. I'm expecting us to spend more this summer than ever before. Wouldn't surprise me if we surpassed 300 million spent on incoming players. Also, it's important that just one or two outgoings will allow us to basically do what we want, especially by selling a homegrown player like McTominay or Greenwood.

Didn't realize you meant EL vs ECL.
Why do you think this?
We won't even have the new guru from Newcastle in situ.

Spending tonnes loads is what we've been doing. We need a new proper strategy, one we can only build with the main management in the building.
 

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I can’t really understand how someone couldn’t see a clear difference between penalty and open play goals.

I mean, it’s a skill in itself but most players on the pitch could take and score competent penalties. A goal from open play involves positioning, timing and everything else that a forward should be good at to score goals.

I can definitely understand the mindset that a penalty goal isn’t as valuable to a strikers tally. The majority would be scored whether they were taken by them or not.
 

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Why do you think this?
We won't even have the new guru from Newcastle in situ.

Spending tonnes loads is what we've been doing. We need a new proper strategy, one we can only build with the main management in the building.
1. I think Ineos will invest money as soon as they can or need to.

2. Spending a lot of money is what we will very likely continue doing, just spending it smarter this time. We can't resort to only trying to find unknown gems for cheap, we will fall even further behind if we stop going for the best talents available. Our strategy has to be an optimal mixture of everything. Pulling the trigger on an 80-100 million player when it's the right move, the occasional free transfer, try to find South American teenagers for peanuts and develop them into great players, cheap punts like Malacia or Dan James in the past, very smart value buys like Todibo would be for ~40m this summer, etc.
 

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I think that isn't much more than a minor inconvenience for Ineos, and they're also aware how important this summer window is going to be for us. I'm expecting us to spend more this summer than ever before. Wouldn't surprise me if we surpassed 300 million spent on incoming players. Also, it's important that just one or two outgoings will allow us to basically do what we want, especially by selling a homegrown player like McTominay or Greenwood.

Didn't realize you meant EL vs ECL.
I think you'll be disappointed. It's going to be very hard to shift some of the big earners like Casemiro and Sancho that are burning money.

If we miss out Europe not only will there be less funds but we won't need as big a squad.
 
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I can’t really understand how someone couldn’t see a clear difference between penalty and open play goals.

I mean, it’s a skill in itself but most players on the pitch could take and score competent penalties. A goal from open play involves positioning, timing and everything else that a forward should be good at to score goals.

I can definitely understand the mindset that a penalty goal isn’t as valuable to a strikers tally. The majority would be scored whether they were taken by them or not.
Tell this to Watkins. I swear I've only ever seen him miss penalties and that's why he stepped down from taking them.
 

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Tell this to Watkins. I swear I've only ever seen him miss penalties and that's why he stepped down from taking them.
Yeah, it’s definitely a skill, but it’s one numerous players in the team can do competently. A striker going to a club with an established penalty taker is immediately at a disadvantage in these golden boot situations, often regardless of his ability at them.

A striker scoring 20 goals from open play because he can’t take his teams penalties, has had a better season that a striker who has 12 from open play and 8 penalties.

A player like Andy Cole would probably get mentioned a lot more in striker debates had he hit penalties, and I don’t think that’s really fair.
 

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Tell this to Watkins. I swear I've only ever seen him miss penalties and that's why he stepped down from taking them.
Remember that behind door's season when he missed that 94th min pen.
Still smarting at that.

Wasting all those Grealish assists too.
 

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If Spurs lose or at least fail to beat Liverpool tomorrow at Anfield, you'd think then it'll be really hard for them to catch Villa, regardless of Villa's result tomorrow at Brighton. And then top 4 will be gone for them. Newcastle may race them for 5th place finish but Spurs should also be beating Burnley at home and Sheffield away and that should secure them 5th place finish.

So will they have enough motivation (while also being in poor form) to really try and beat City which would hand the title to their biggest rivals? You'd think much would depend on our result vs Arsenal 2 days before that game and if we can get a result, which seems unlikely atm.

Arsenal should beat us and especially Everton. Looking at other games City have - Fulham got nothing to play for but it's their last home game of the season so they might give it a try. West Ham at home should be a win, interesting that they secured the title against same rival in last game of the season in 2014. Perhaps Moyes' boys could trouble City like Villa did 2 years ago, who knows.
 

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If Spurs lose or at least fail to beat Liverpool tomorrow at Anfield, you'd think then it'll be really hard for them to catch Villa, regardless of Villa's result tomorrow at Brighton. And then top 4 will be gone for them. Newcastle may race them for 5th place finish but Spurs should also be beating Burnley at home and Sheffield away and that should secure them 5th place finish.

So will they have enough motivation (while also being in poor form) to really try and beat City which would hand the title to their biggest rivals? You'd think much would depend on our result vs Arsenal 2 days before that game and if we can get a result, which seems unlikely atm.

Arsenal should beat us and especially Everton. Looking at other games City have - Fulham got nothing to play for but it's their last home game of the season so they might give it a try. West Ham at home should be a win, interesting that they secured the title against same rival in last game of the season in 2014. Perhaps Moyes' boys could trouble City like Villa did 2 years ago, who knows.
I actually think we'll beat Arsenal or at least get a draw. We've looked ok against the good teams this season. It's every other game that's the issue.

As much as I don't want City to win the league, watching us end Arsenal's title hopes would be very enjoyable.
 

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Those pens for Arse and City are a joke.
 

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The decisions City have been getting this season have been an absolute joke. Abu Dhabi brown envelopes being handed out.
 

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I actually think we'll beat Arsenal or at least get a draw. We've looked ok against the good teams this season. It's every other game that's the issue.

As much as I don't want City to win the league, watching us end Arsenal's title hopes would be very enjoyable.
I get what you're saying but 2 reasons I don't see us getting result against Arsenal: 1) they're brilliant away from home 2) style of football ten Hag has us playing could mean us getting terribly exposed and they're too good not to take advantage. We showed before we can get result at home against Arsenal team that's playing well - 13/14, 15/16, 22/23. All those are examples of it but we looked tactically sound in those games and this season we've conceded all those shots and chances... 2-2 draw vs Liverpool would never have happened if they took their chances in first half when they were 1-0 up.

If we do somehow get a result, then City should let us win in the final :lol:
 

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EPL is truly a farmers league. Whenever City need to win, they simply win every game. 10 in a row, 13 in a row. Doesn´t matter. Nobody touches them. Bunch of *****.
Well, they have infinite money, and no matter how good a team could be, they just can't compete with City signing Oliver, Pawson, Taylor, etc...those guys are just too good for the rest of the PL
 

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Can absolutely guarantee that if Garnacho goes down on Monday like Havertz did, not only will we not get penalty, but Garno will be booked for diving. And the spineless tw@ts in VAR will do nothing
 

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Have to say Halaand's second and fourth goals were fantastic finishes
 

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and I won't miss Ian Wright's drivel now that's he's "retiring" from MoTD
 

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Chelsea XI: Petrovic, Chalobah, Silva, Badiashile, Cucurella, Caicedo, Gallagher, Madueke, Palmer, Mudryk, Jackson.

Subs: Bettinelli, Disasi, Sterling, Nkunku, Colwill, Gusto, Casadei, Deivid, Gilchrist.

Nice to see some coming back to fitness. Could be cool if Nkunku especially gets a start before the end of the season.
 

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A month earlier with Olsen in goal and Spurs Utd and Newcastle would’ve caught Villa
 

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Bit of a rubbish season this. The bottom 3 are down. Top 4 is sorted. We've been trash. City vs Arsenal is mildly interesting but you'd imagine City will see it through.
 

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