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I never said I wanted him or that it was a good idea but it will happen.There's no way this isn't a wind up
I never said I wanted him or that it was a good idea but it will happen.There's no way this isn't a wind up
Because he was more interested in twisting his body to claim the foul. He is a very poor keeper.Btw how did Henderson not catch that ball last night (the disallowed goal)?
It was certainly very poor goalkeeping from a keeper who has a big opinion of himselfBecause he was more interested in twisting his body to claim the foul. He is a very poor keeper.
While the criticism of Onana is fair, it's definitely also important to acknowledge that he has been a victim of circumstance because he's facing more shots than most keepers, especially in the second half of the season. It's a pretty simple mathematical inevitability that the more shots you face, on average the more goals you're going to concede.I believe that 1) the team mentality is causing issues and 2) the number of shots he's facing has to get at you at some point.
I don't think this season is a good judge of him, as he's had good and bad spells.
It won't. Onana is better, and even if the new structure misjudges that, it won't be De Gea who comes in for him.I never said I wanted him or that it was a good idea but it will happen.
What makes you think he was decent for interI don't follow Serie A that much, but was he not pretty decent for Inter?
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His FC 24 rating?What makes you think he was decent for inter
It was a questionWhat makes you think he was decent for inter
I have no idea how bad he is overall. I can only judge how bad he's been here, and he's been absolutely shocking. His failure to do the very basics has me very worried tbh. Yes, there are obviously some factors that have made him look worse, but even without those factors, he doesn't inspire any confidence whatsoever.Well, how bad is he?
He isn't as bad as some now have concluded. But he has serious flaws as a player, and when those flaws are mercilessly exposed - he looks like shit.
I dunno. To me, having seen him regularly over a full season, he's just not up to scratch technically and tactically as a defensive keeper (kinda important, that defensive part).
You can argue that we haven't seen the best of him as an offensive keeper (his passing, his ability to initiate attacks) because we've been disjointed and generally not very good - and, yes, I won't dismiss that argument.
You can also say that we've been setting up in a near suicidal manner (allowing the opponent to get at us for fun), which has put him under much more pressure than he should have faced in a well-functioning system (for a supposed top team). And I can sort of buy that too.
But that doesn't really explain what seems like a basic lack of technical (and tactical) prowess as a...goalkeeper (on the highest level).
It's obvious enough that he would've looked infinitely better for a hypothetical team that was very dominant in possession and allowed very few direct chances (shots), and - again - you could argue that United should be that team. But - nah, on the whole he looks a bit like a busted flush. Much like the man who recruited him.
Because he like you and I are human.Number of shots faced will never explain how Olise managed to score his second. That was just appalling positioning.
Sums it up, I guess.Yes, there are obviously some factors that have made him look worse, but even without those factors, he doesn't inspire any confidence whatsoever.
It’s not about levels. It’s about knowing where to be on the pitch. His positioning is shit.Because he like you and I are human.
He is in his first season, the team is having a shit season, he has himself has been up and down, the defense is trash and he's facing record numbers of shots.
It is natural that his levels have dropped under the present circumstances.
Disagree with this actually.Ten Hag got it wrong. Even with no injuries, we do not have the players or system to be able to play out of the back. This should have come first, before spending big on a keeper who is apparently great with his feet, but, as we have seen, is poor with his gloves.
Why refer to Martinez by his first name and not the others?Disagree with this actually.
Dalot - Varane - Licha - Shaw
That’s a very competent defence for playing out the back when played together. Varane is the weakest of the four, but he’s never the defender to demand the ball centrally, he defers wide, it’s shaw or Licha who demand it in the middle.
Yes, he was a few (12) years below me at (a different) school (on a different continent).Why refer to Martinez by his first name and not the others?
Is Licha a mate of yours or something?
There's more chance of you starting in goal next season for Manchester United than David De Gea, and that's probably a good thing as I've seen De Gea play and haven't seen you play, so there is a large chance you would be better than him.I never said I wanted him or that it was a good idea but it will happen.
Peas in a pod thenYes, he was a few (12) years below me at (a different) school (on a different continent).
Inseparable some, but not many at all if any, might say.Peas in a pod then
Ok I thought the - was he not being an implied he was kind of question. A straight question would have just been, was he any good. Don’t know why you found it so funny to have two laughing facesIt was a question
Hence the not really following Serie A part.
It was pretty funny that you went for me when I didn't imply that I thought he was good.Ok I thought the - was he not being an implied he was kind of question. A straight question would have just been, was he any good. Don’t know why you found it so funny to have two laughing faces
And what happens when a couple are injured?Disagree with this actually.
Dalot - Varane - Licha - Shaw
That’s a very competent defence for playing out the back when played together. Varane is the weakest of the four, but he’s never the defender to demand the ball centrally, he defers wide, it’s shaw or Licha who demand it in the middle.
Went for you is a stretchIt was pretty funny that you went for me when I didn't imply that I thought he was good.
I suppose, he seemed highly rated in general and I thought he was supposed to have been good for Inter. The assumption was based on us paying pretty big money after one season there. I also remember a thread about him on here during his Ajax days where plenty seemed to really rate him.
I don't think it is an exaggeration, DDG was awful on the ball. If you believe that playing out from the back is overrated then fair enough, but there's no way we'd be able to do it with DDG.One if the worst around on the ball is such an exaggeration almost as big as “you can’t play out from the back without the GK being Ederson”. The same over exaggeration was used last may. Ramsdale didn’t stop Arsenal last season and Madrid just got into the CL semis with Lunin while Kepa is on the bench.
And as far as it was reported DDG was being offered a contract on much lower wages and on short term, that was the only reasonable thing to do with him, than ETH changed his mind.
It's less about Pep making it trendy, and more about the rise of high pressing teams. Think how often players need to go back to the keeper, if they're only good for lumping the ball out then without a Fellaini like character to bypass the other team then you reduce your chances of getting on the ball.I don’t fully buy into that just because pep has made it recently trendy to do so. There were many great teams in the past who dominated possession without having a “sweeper keeper”: why outfield players cannot find passing angles without a ball playing keeper is crazy.
Onana is the sole reason I'm an XG atheist at this stage. No stat is going to tell me something different than what my eyes see.Tweet
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I love the faith, you’ve given me the confidence to audition.There's more chance of you starting in goal next season for Manchester United than David De Gea, and that's probably a good thing as I've seen De Gea play and haven't seen you play, so there is a large chance you would be better than him.
He still lives over here, there were some video's he released recently of him using the pitch at Altrincham FC for private training sessions.I love the faith, you’ve given me the confidence to audition.
I just have a weird feeling that they’ll see he’s still out of work, knows the club and will come back for peanuts. Let’s hope he’s settled at home in Madrid
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Onana is the sole reason I'm an XG atheist at this stage. No stat is going to tell me something different than what my eyes see.
I bet he outperformed the xG stat last night too.Onana is the sole reason I'm an XG atheist at this stage. No stat is going to tell me something different than what my eyes see.
Playing out of the back is overrated. Vastly overrated. You clearly want to see your defenders be able to handle pressure but consistently trying to break pressures with short passing out of the back invites too much danger and easy chances for the opposition, with little gain in return. Onana's footwork is superior to Dave's but we don't have the back line or the midfielders to capitalize on the perceived benefits of having a keeper who can hit short passes quickly. Many timbers have fallen to make us easy prey for clubs like Palace, but one of them was the downgrade in the keeper, the current keeper being poor at shot-stopping, which under every paradigm of goalkeeping is a crucial attribute to be successful as a keeper.I don't think it is an exaggeration, DDG was awful on the ball. If you believe that playing out from the back is overrated then fair enough, but there's no way we'd be able to do it with DDG.
You're wrong about what happened with DDG. He was originally offered another medium-long term contract on partially reduced wages that would still have made him the highest paid goalkeeper in the country.
Thankfully the club decided against yet another inflated contract for a player on the wane, which would have tied us to DDG for years (not like we could have offloaded him, given that he can't find a club on a free), and offered a short term contract more befitting a backup keeper, that DDG rejected.
Again, Onana doesn't look like the right replacement, but we did need a replacement.