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The Israeli bloodlust is truly incredible.Tweet
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They didn't actually withhold this type and the IOF have been using dumb bombs anyway.
The Israeli bloodlust is truly incredible.Tweet
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They didn't actually withhold this type and the IOF have been using dumb bombs anyway.
I do fear we have gotten lost in this war(if you can call it that) mass killing and genocide is more appropriate.Tweet
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And it makes no sense unless they mean that Hamas sends subliminal messages to the protestors through their channels or something.Have a word with yourself - putting the hamas point in brackets immediately post protestors is disingenuous conflation
That was a great post/vid. Thank you.I do fear we have gotten lost in this war(if you can call it that) mass killing and genocide is more appropriate.Tweet
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Some have forgotten what led us here. And that’s apartheid. The West Bank is not even being discussed (understandably). 21st century apartheid, segregation and Jim Crow rolled into one. I fear once there’s a ceasefire, everyone takes a sigh of relief and says can we all go home now.
I have no respect for anyone that defends this shit in any way.
Don't forget occupation and colonization, and they have a government led by their people who also contribute to this oppression. A sort of Vichy government for Palestinians as Edward Said described it. All the tested forms of oppression from the last century have been applied to these people.I do fear we have gotten lost in this war(if you can call it that) mass killing and genocide is more appropriate.Tweet
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Some have forgotten what led us here. And that’s apartheid. The West Bank is not even being discussed (understandably). 21st century apartheid, segregation and Jim Crow rolled into one. I fear once there’s a ceasefire, everyone takes a sigh of relief and says can we all go home now.
I have no respect for anyone that defends this shit in any way.
Have a word with yourself - putting the hamas point in brackets immediately post protestors is disingenuous conflation
He's been trying to undermine the legitimacy of these protests since day one.And it makes no sense unless they mean that Hamas sends subliminal messages to the protestors through their channels or something.
I missed it, but I try to avoid as much nonsense as possible in these forums. If ever a post needs a quality control label.
The information was provided the other day. The overall numbers at City College and Columbia (the two NY schools in question) were between the 29% and 60, as was published by the NYPD.He's been trying to undermine the legitimacy of these protests since day one.
@Raoul this reminds me, I'm still waiting for that data that shows 40% of protesters are infiltrators. Can you provide it or will you admit you were wrong?
A good illustration of how Biden will get criticized by both sides irrespective of which positions he takes. This was the right position to take though.Tweet
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Can you link me to the information provided mentioning they were infiltrators? I can't find it.The information was provided the other day. The overall numbers at City College and Columbia (the two NY schools in question) were between the 29% and 60, as was published by the NYPD.
Its not useful for you to get hung up on the word infiltrators. People who are "unaffiliated "is merely politically correct office speak; a way of saying people who were unauthorized to be on campus were arrested. They were therefore anywhere between unauthorized guests to professional saboteurs. In either case, they were arrested on campus despite not having legitimate reasons to be there.Can you link me to the information provided mentioning they were infiltrators? I can't find it.
I have 0 proof but 0 doubts that is a PR stunt. Biden it still supply everything that Israel needs while withholding, in agreement with Netanyahu, a shipment that Israel don't need (or not much) to show that is doing somethingTweet
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The fact that Biden is saying this publicly and not through leaks seems pretty big, assuming he stands by it. The administration finally tired of Netanyahu and Israel constantly torpedoing any possible hostage deal in their desire to level all of Gaza.
Poor Biden. It must be so hard to face criticism from both sides from selling weapons to Israel whilst they genocide the Palestinians.A good illustration of how Biden will get criticized by both sides irrespective of which positions he takes. This was the right position to take though.
I can't see any scenario under which the Israelis don't go into Rafah at this point. Their publicly stated goal from the beginning has been to expel Hamas from Gaza and they view anything short of that as being a victory for Hamas. This is also why hostage swaps are unlikely to move the needle since Hamas' position has been that swapping hostages for a ceasefire would entail Israeli forces withdrawing from all of Gaza. Never mind the possibility that a fair number of hostages are probably no longer alive at this point.I read something earlier about the Israelis wanting to exempt Rafah from a ceasefire deal.
These people are deeply unserious and the talks have stopped now.
Yes, but that's not their actual goal, so it's irrelevant.Their publicly stated goal from the beginning has been to expel Hamas from Gaza
The word infiltrators is precisely the thing to be hung up on. Because you and I both know that word, in the context of protests, has a negative connotation.Its not useful for you to get hung up on the word infiltrators. People who are "unaffiliated "is merely politically correct office speak; a way of saying people who were unauthorized to be on campus were arrested. They were therefore anywhere between unauthorized guests to professional saboteurs. In either case, they were arrested on campus despite not having legitimate reasons to be there.
That's precisely why its used. Because it has a negative connotation. The NYPD displayed some of the items they confiscated from those arrested, and they weren't exactly things synonymous with peaceful student protesters advocating for peace.The word infiltrators is precisely the thing to be hung up on. Because you and I both know that word, in the context of protests, has a negative connotation.
It is the goal they've stated from the beginning. If you're suggesting they are interested in removing all Gazans from Gaza, with the exception of a few loud right wing Israeli politicians who no one takes seriously, we haven't seen any evidence of that.Yes, but that's not their actual goal, so it's irrelevant.
Jesus mate, it's not about "why its used", because it wasn't used. It's about YOU using it despite no one else doing it, including the police you keep repeating has used it.That's precisely why its used. Because it has a negative connotation. The NYPD displayed some of the items they confiscated from those arrested, and they weren't exactly things synonymous with peaceful student protesters advocating for peace.
There was no mistake made. It was done intentionally after reading about the amount of outsiders arrested. That's not to say actual students don't have a right to protest on campus, but when the entire thing becomes disruptive, the administration have the right to calls cops to escort them out. They can still protest outside of campus, therefore there's nothing preventing them from expressing their views on the conflict.Jesus mate, it's not about "why its used", because it wasn't used. It's about YOU using it despite no one else doing it, including the police you keep repeating has used it.
Your incapacity to admit you made a mistake is quite fascinating. That or it wasn't a mistake and you're proving my point about having an agenda.
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OK, it's now clear then, it was no mistake, good to know.There was no mistake made. It was done intentionally after reading about the amount of outsiders arrested. That's not to say actual students don't have a right to protest on campus, but when the entire thing becomes disruptive, the administration have the right to calls cops to escort them out. They can still protest outside of campus, therefore there's nothing preventing them from expressing their views on the conflict.
Not at all. The actual student protestors were originally within their rights to be on campus. Those who weren't students were right to have been arrested when the administration called the cops. The students could've easily continued protesting outside of campus after the admin asked them to leave.OK, it's now clear then, it was no mistake, good to know.
You purposefully want to make the protesters look bad by claiming 40% of them are infiltrators to give them a negative look and claim they are violent, even though you pulled the number out of thin air, as you haven't provided any source, except some police reports, which have zero mentions of infiltrators. 100% clear.
I hope you hesitate in the future before claiming others have an agenda when yours is now on display for all to see, and recognize others can't take your arguments in good faith when you admit you're making stuff up to fuel the narrative of thousands and thousands of infiltrators committed to violence.
At this point I'm not sure if my english is that bad or you're just trolling me.Not at all. The actual student protestors were originally within their rights to be on campus. Those who weren't students were right to have been arrested when the administration called the cops. The students could've easily continued protesting outside of campus after the admin asked them to leave.
It's funny that people like Bush were calling for an end to the Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands just 16 years ago. I know it was just lip service, but there's now zero chance you'll find someone from the current democratic administration to utter anything that resembles these words. That goes for the vast majority of elected Democrats.Tweet
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This is where the IHRA definition law will be so useful in the future - discourse will be censored exactly like in Germany.
I prefer the (more accurate) statement "israel is a terrorist state" anyway.Tweet
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This is where the IHRA definition law will be so useful in the future - discourse will be censored exactly like in Germany.
Your English is fineAt this point I'm not sure if my english is that bad or you're just trolling me.
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But middle east muslim governments couldn't give a crap of Palestine and they would love that Israel would kill or kick out all the palestinians so they could stop faking any concern and start to do business with IsraelI mean, he's right. Muslims worldwide by and large couldn't give a shit about Hamas, "Palestine" though is a different matter.
Also true.But middle east muslim governments couldn't give a crap of Palestine and they would love that Israel would kill or kick out all the palestinians so they could stop faking any concern and start to do business with Israel