Jamie Turner - For those of you un-aware.

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Seen as we're playing Southampton this weekend, this story has naturally been brought into the public eye again.

It really is shocking.
This is taken from another website...

'What you are about to read is not a funny story. It is a bitter, dramatic, sad story. It should make us think. It is the story of any fan of any football team of any country. That he is called Jamie Turner and is a fan of Manchester United is really just a detail. Certainly, not for him and certainly not for his family. The date of 15th May 2005 will remain impressed in Jamie Turner’s memory for the rest of his life. Luckily.

Because it means that he still has a life and a memory. And, from the very beginning, it was clear that the risk of losing both was very high. Like so many times as he had done before with his friends, on that damn day Jamie had gone to the away match to support Manchester United, his favourite team. The season’s calendar had brought him to the south of the island, to Southampton. Suddenly, however, the day of fun was turned into a nightmare.

A long and painful nightmare. As soon as he arrived in the vicinity of the stadium, he was attacked from behind by a group of fans of the local team and in a moment he found himself on the ground, hit on the head and unconscious. His skull had caved in, was fractured from ear to ear and the whole business was complicated by a brain haemorrhage. Immediately assisted and taken to the neurosurgical department of Southampton hospital, he had a whole section of his skull removed to facilitate the operation required to stop the haemorrhage. His family was immediately informed of his critical condition which was such as be seriously lifethreatening. For three weeks Jamie Turner was in a coma suspended between life and death. When he did awake it was immediately obvious that his brain has been gravely damaged and that if he ever did recover it would have taken some time, seeing as how Jamie has awakened with the mind of a five year old child. His wife and children stayed by his bedside trying to stimulate the recovery of his mental faculties and trying to discover what information he still possessed, as practically nothing of his life was initially present in his memory files: Jamie was just about able to read, but not to write, he had aphasia, an alteration of the language faculty, his voice was monotonous and his capacity of expression very limited. And that was not all: Jamie was paralyzed on one side of his body and in spite of every effort, his left arm and hand were blocked and, by not transmitting the correct signals to his brain, his left eye denied him full capacity of sight.

Terrible migraines and a constant sense of fatigue worsened his case history. After numerous operations and much rehabilitation, with tens of specialists from various sectors of medical science, in August 2006 Jamie Turner was finally operated on once more to fix his broken skull with the insertion of a plaque to replace the piece of skullcap that had been removed in May 2005. This was necessary to protect the part of his brain where the blows had damaged it most. A few moments was all it took to make him a vegetable and years were needed to help him to recover a semblance of normality that will never be total. And above all so much suffering and unbelievable expenses. Jamie is still not able to work; he suffers from problems of sight, depression and constant migraines. And he has a great need to sleep and rest. But Jamie Turner’s story does not end here. Thanks to the help of his family, his friends, the fans of Manchester United and many nameless people, Jamie has ecovered. Slowly, but he has recovered. On 11th January last, Manchester United Football Club invited him with his family to meet the players of his favourite team on the occasion of the work-out before the following day’s match. And on 12th January, Jamie Turner returned to the Old Trafford. The United players had promised him an intense match, dedicated to him and his family. A victory, all for them.

And that was how it went: Manchester United won 6-0 against Newcastle.

Jamie, overcome with emotion, returned for a few moments to being a normal man, forgetting his great suffering. And so, for now, we come to the end of a tragic story of a football fan, cowardly attacked by someone who left him almost dead on the ground. Action Now – Play old style has decided to offer its own small contribution of economic assistance to the Turner family.
Over the next few days, in agreement with Jamie Turner and his family, some photographic works donated by the Swedish artist Charlotta Smeds – works that were shown in the Photographic Exhibition ‘Flick about’ and that portray Subbuteo players of Manchester United – will be auctioned. The proceeds of the auction will be given to the Fund that was created especially for Jamie. Because even a small offering can contribute to assisting a great man and a great fan'

He was seen in Tokyo a fwe weeks back, and is apparently now feeling and looking alot better.

Which is good to hear.
 
Did they ever catch the scum who did it?
 
Nope, no-one was arrested.
Utter disgrace. :(

Hopefully nothing happens in retaliation tomorrow.
 
Sickening stuff, it really is.
 
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Glad that the club takes time to recognise what this man has gone through.

It's sickening what one second of stupid from an intellectual pygmee may wreak.
 
There are some utter pricks out there. Glad to hear that Jamie is on the up.
 
Went to the Newcastle match last year, had no idea. Disgraceful what happened to him.
 
My 1st ever utd away tomorrow, this kind of thing doesnt have a place at any football ground, utter cowards, safety in numbers is the call of the day then.
 
fecking hell. Terrible story, but good to hear he's been getting better.

Stay safe lads.
 
I thought football fans had grown up....guess there will always be a few neanderthal idiots!

Found an article about his appeal and that truly shocking!
 
I thought football fans had grown up....guess there will always be a few neanderthal idiots!

Found an article about his appeal and that truly shocking!

Nothing to do with football, just some utter, utter cnuts. If football did not exist they would probably have attacked someone else. Regardless of what football team they, or their victim supports, I sincerely hope the people responsible for this die soon, the world would certainly be a better place.
 
We're hearing one side of the story here. I've found that every time someone rocks into A&E after getting battered, they've always been hit from behind and always been out-numbered. I've never yet heard someone admit to getting beat up after throwing the first punch or setting out to cause trouble. Does anyone believe that never happens?

I have absolutely no idea what happened in this instance and my condolences go out to this bloke and his family but I do note a certain irony in this thread being started by someone who has always been slow to condemn "a bit of a ruck" in the past.

If any of us think that it is in any way acceptable for people to go round punching/kicking each other in the head then stories like this are inevitable and I don't think the people who attacked him are necessarily any more guilty than anyone who has given rival fans a slap at any time in the past.
 
There are a number of stories. What i do know is them cnuts were baiting us all the way yesterday. Jamie Turner was a respectable, middle aged man who happened to be a season ticket holder at Old Trafford.

The walk yesterday was shady as feck. Wasn't expecting that. fecking Southampton of all places.
 
We're hearing one side of the story here. I've found that every time someone rocks into A&E after getting battered, they've always been hit from behind and always been out-numbered. I've never yet heard someone admit to getting beat up after throwing the first punch or setting out to cause trouble. Does anyone believe that never happens?

I have absolutely no idea what happened in this instance and my condolences go out to this bloke and his family but I do note a certain irony in this thread being started by someone who has always been slow to condemn "a bit of a ruck" in the past.

If any of us think that it is in any way acceptable for people to go round punching/kicking each other in the head then stories like this are inevitable and I don't think the people who attacked him are necessarily any more guilty than anyone who has given rival fans a slap at any time in the past.

I've heard NOTHING to suggest that Jamie was anything but an innocent victim in this.

Southampton's getting rough as feck these days for some reason - reds were getting picked on on their way to and from the ground yesterday, including women.
 
St. Mary's is in a dodgy area of the city though, loadsof Hells Angels pubs nearby and the like. The Dell was in a much nicer area. I don't like going down St. Mary's Road late at night.
 
I've heard NOTHING to suggest that Jamie was anything but an innocent victim in this.

Southampton's getting rough as feck these days for some reason - reds were getting picked on on their way to and from the ground yesterday, including women.

That pint pot that got launched could have hit anything. There were fecking kids walking with their parents and the likes.

Scarfers were getting done, fecking shirts getting pounced on. cnuts
 
I've heard NOTHING to suggest that Jamie was anything but an innocent victim in this.

Like I said, I know nothing about the specifics of this case.

Out of interest, and I'm talking hypothetically here, would you extend the same sympathy to a United fan who got all bevvied up and initiated a bit of a ruck with some local fans who were up for a scrap - which ended in the same outcome?
 
Out of interest, and I'm talking hypothetically here, would you extend the same sympathy to a United fan who got all bevvied up and initiated a bit of a ruck with some local fans who were up for a scrap - which ended in the same outcome?

Obviously there is less sympathy for someone who instigates violence than someone who is a completely innocent victim.
 
you from down there Frosty?

London originally, but I live down there now. The new stadium is in a complete tip of an area, the reason being that The Dell couldn't be made bigger dur to the nice area it was in. Southampton isn't the nicest city, possibly the result of city planners cementing over 90% of it that was destroyed by bombing. I try to avoid the St. Mary's area, especially on Championship matchdays.
 
There are plenty of specifics of the case out there, worth a read Pogue to be fair.

And there is a difference between giving somone a bit of a twatting and a slap and stoving someones head in so bad they end up shattering their skull.
 
London originally, but I live down there now. The new stadium is in a complete tip of an area, the reason being that The Dell couldn't be made bigger dur to the nice area it was in. Southampton isn't the nicest city, possibly the result of city planners cementing over 90% of it that was destroyed by bombing. I try to avoid the St. Mary's area, especially on Championship matchdays.

I always found it a nice city to be fair. Certainly nicer than pompey.

It did look a wank area round St Marys...some little bottlenecks too which were shady.
 
It did look a wank area round St Marys...some little bottlenecks too which were shady.

We were a bit fortunate not to see more trouble getting in actually, especially that nob in the checked cap and his mates who tried to ambush us in that tunnel. We should really have stuck together more - next time the lasses will have to get more sensible shoes (or drink less!).
 
There are plenty of specifics of the case out there, worth a read Pogue to be fair.

And there is a difference between giving somone a bit of a twatting and a slap and stoving someones head in so bad they end up shattering their skull.

Could have been a lucky punch TBF (not that I'm condoning that kind of behaviour).

One of my mates is serving a 12 month jail sentance at the moment for slapping someone and shattering their jaw. He didn't really hit them that hard, just in the wrong place. The local rags had him reported as some kind of vicious thug but he's not like that at all. He's one of the soundest lads I know.
 
We were a bit fortunate not to see more trouble getting in actually, especially that nob in the checked cap and his mates who tried to ambush us in that tunnel. We should really have stuck together more - next time the lasses will have to get more sensible shoes (or drink less!).

I reckon you're right mate. We did go in dribs and drabs. If Jen wears them twatting shoes again she's banned. 4 inch heels to a game?

Mind you i wouldn't have minded whipping them off her feet when things were getting a little tasty. Could have come in handy:lol:
 
Could have been a lucky punch TBF (not that I'm condoning that kind of behaviour).

One of my mates is serving a 12 month jail sentance at the moment for slapping someone and shattering their jaw. He didn't really hit them that hard, just in the wrong place. The local rags had him reported as some kind of vicious thug but he's not like that at all. He's one of the soundest lads I know.

Which is the point I'm making. You punch anyone in the head there's a chance they'll fall down, smack their head on something hard and end up like this bloke.

Some people on here seem to think it's ok to give out the odd slap to people who are looking for trouble but are full of hatred for rival fans who seem to have similar attitudes to the rights and wrongs of casual violence. If someone doesn't want to get involved in a fight then it's horrible for him to end up brain injured but if someone is for up a ruck does that really make it ok?

The only difference between giving someone a bloody nose or making them paraplegic is dumb luck.
 
I reckon you're right mate. We did go in dribs and drabs. If Jen wears them twatting shoes again she's banned. 4 inch heels to a game?

Mind you i wouldn't have minded whipping them off her feet when things were getting a little tasty. Could have come in handy:lol:

Oh, I've no doubt they can ALL look after themselves (you should have seen Rach's eyes light up when the windows were put through by Ultras in Kiev! :D), I just wish they would walk faster!
 
Oh, I've no doubt they can ALL look after themselves (you should have seen Rach's eyes light up when the windows were put through by Ultras in Kiev! :D), I just wish they would walk faster!

hehe your rach is quality. Kiev, Barca, Saints? trouble just follows her ;)
 
there is a difference between giving somone a bit of a twatting and a slap and stoving someones head in so bad they end up shattering their skull.

No, there isn't...

Could have been a lucky punch TBF (not that I'm condoning that kind of behaviour).

One of my mates is serving a 12 month jail sentance at the moment for slapping someone and shattering their jaw. He didn't really hit them that hard, just in the wrong place. The local rags had him reported as some kind of vicious thug but he's not like that at all. He's one of the soundest lads I know.

Unbelievable.
 
No, there isn't...
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Yes, Yes there is.

If a lad comes down Sir Matt Busby way...such as they did at Bolton at home this season...singing manchester bombing songs he deserves a fecking slap.

Knocking him to the floor while a group of you kick his head in until he gets brain damage and is missing a significant proportion of his skull is very different.

Surely you can see the difference in the two??
 
Wish I was there even more yest, sound like it was good fun.

Regarding the original point, it's a terrible story and I'm glad the lad is Ok. Should never of happened.
 
Yes, Yes there is.

If a lad comes down Sir Matt Busby way...such as they did at Bolton at home this season...singing manchester bombing songs he deserves a fecking slap.

I fecking wanted to... somebody wouldn't let me..

:(