Gerrard - the most complete player in Premier League history?
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Best player of all time?! fecking hell I can forgive the spastics for rating him highly but that's mental.
Its a Liverpool forum, seriously what do you expect ?
It's like comfort food...
I can't think of many more rounded footballers (Essien is one of the few), but I can think of many footballers that I'd rather have on my team.
To be honest, if he was our player, we'd fecking adore him.
To be honest, if he was our player, we'd fecking adore him.
Agreed, they're exaggerating, but he is a very well rounded player.
I repeat
Gerrard cannot tackle, apart from his two footed homicidal attacks, if not for being next blue eyed bob of English football after Sheerah, even the premiership refs would've canned him.
Poor interception skills, does nothing apart from running around a lot. Interceptions skills can be considered handy only if the player can read the game well, not for someone who is positionally wank like Gerrard.
Poor distribution skills..passes lacking guile and velocity.
Well guaged delivery: Rooney's delivery nowhere from deep to Ronaldo setting up a goal scoring chance in the CL finals..
Brickwall deliveries: 200 mph hits fired in the general direction of the centre forwards with no guile or precision..for starters, Gerrard to Torres against Chelsea during last season...Andy Gray tried to fool every one calling that muppet delivery as well guaged pass, if not for Torres' close control and finishing it would've been another typical brickwall ball.
All these factors reflect in his poor run he has had the international football and his failure as a midfielder even in the premiership, more of an inside forward synonymous with the English football of 70's and hence not being recognized outside the islands.
Any footballer with running ability and power can notch his fair share of goals in the premiership even of he's technically dud, Gerrard along with that with wonderful striking technique with his right foot notches up his fair share of goals...Nothing more, a typical Liverpool-English footballer with physical presenece and high work rate that masks his technical deficiences, but ironically goals are the only stat that matter in football and he gets his fair share of recognition from the jinguisotic media, clueless Scousers, noodles, Browned, WancFanfromManc and King Eric.
Gerrard cannot tackle, apart from his two footed homicidal attacks, if not for being next blue eyed bob of English football after Sheerah, even the premiership refs would've canned him.
Poor interception skills, does nothing apart from running around a lot. Interceptions skills can be considered handy only if the player can read the game well, not for someone who is positionally wank like Gerrard.
Poor distribution skills..passes lacking guile and velocity.
Well guaged delivery: Rooney's delivery nowhere from deep to Ronaldo setting up a goal scoring chance in the CL finals..
Brickwall deliveries: 200 mph hits fired in the general direction of the centre forwards with no guile or precision..for starters, Gerrard to Torres against Chelsea during last season...Andy Gray tried to fool every one calling that muppet delivery as well guaged pass, if not for Torres' close control and finishing it would've been another typical brickwall ball.
All these factors reflect in his poor run he has had the international football and his failure as a midfielder even in the premiership, more of an inside forward synonymous with the English football of 70's and hence not being recognized outside the islands.
Any footballer with running ability and power can notch his fair share of goals in the premiership even of he's technically dud, Gerrard along with that with wonderful striking technique with his right foot notches up his fair share of goals...Nothing more, a typical Liverpool-English footballer with physical presenece and high work rate that masks his technical deficiences, but ironically goals are the only stat that matter in football and he gets his fair share of recognition from the jinguisotic media, clueless Scousers, noodles, Browned, WancFanfromManc and King Eric.
Only a matter of time before they start burning his shirt again.....
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/liverpool/article5753802.ece
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/liverpool/article5753802.ece
I had a conversation with a Villa fan who brought that up yesterday; the one where he skinned Carvalho first, right?
That was one of the most ridiculous passes I've ever seen!
Considering the dross around him, he HAS to be a contender. He pretty much has everything. He hasnt won a title though so to say he's the best player ever is laughable.
vastly overated - very good player but no more than that - I´d take Keane or Robson, for starters, in their prime over him any day of the week
Best player in the Premier League in the last 10 years? 
Ronaldo would be a better candidate. Ohh wait, everybody can score 42 goals a season if you are as selfish as him
Ronaldo would be a better candidate. Ohh wait, everybody can score 42 goals a season if you are as selfish as him
He probably is. Nowhere near the best though.
Yeah, really sets the International scene alight whenever he pulls on an England shirt...remember that time he dominated................No, nor do I!
thats just laughable. ye just cannot take it seriously.
Another RAWK thread
Best player in the Premier League in the last 10 years?
Ronaldo would be a better candidate. Ohh wait, everybody can score 42 goals a season if you are as selfish as him
Gerrard's been doing it for years in the Premiership, there's no point in comparing them at this point in time. Ronaldo has a larger level of ability (probably much larger), but a comparison at this point in time would be pointless.
Can you remember Gerrard against Andorra in the second half..Ingurland fans went after SCS right from the first half and Stevie G took charge and thrashed Andorra all by himself.
Typical midfield general of football, the perfermance should go up there with the best of Socrates, Platini, Matthaeus, Keane, Redondo etal.
It was once in a life time performance, doubt Stevie G can replicate it even if he tries hard, even against the same opposition.
Ronaldo even in a mediocre run this season, is up there with the best Gerrard can offer. Poor passing being pedestrain yet scoring and setting up goals.
Ronaldo knows he is less in confidence so he does that tentatively whilst Gerrard understands its the best he can offer, he carried on the same wiht higher level of confidence.
I couldn't believe my eyes that he managed that one, for it seemed like the ball dragged just before he was about to strike it, but he hit it perfectly...
Then there was the surprise cross along the floor which Tevez narrowly failed to connection with.
Rooney's vision is absolutely remarkable.
As for the RAWK assertions... is the quote that Cruyff had no right foot doctored?!
Show us yer trophies Gerrard
Most complete player my arse. He's not even a patch on this little ginger genius:
Most complete player my arse. He's not even a patch on this little ginger genius:
Ronaldo's overall influence on the majority of games this year has been fairly minimal, Gerrard's has not.
You reckon Gerrard was more influential as he runs around a lot period... more confidently with a better physical presence...he runs all around the pitch so he appears everywhere.
Ronaldo is low in his confidence, poor form and he's not a footballer who runs around like a yerd dog yet he has notched his fair share of goals.
Also Workrate is a wonderful terminology in English football, hyped by fans and media alike to mask the technical inability of a footballer. The more a footballer is praised of high work rate, the more dud he's technically in using the ball, Gerrard has a high work rate apparently.
Fixed.
I think Gerrard had 54% of his shots on target last season, which does indicate he's throwing a lot of shit against the wall and eventually something sticks.
He is a pretty complete player but there are glaring weaknesses in his game - work rate, position discipline and tackling. He's not the sort of person you'd want to control a midfield - it speaks volumes that he works best with two holding midfielders behind him!
But in some ways being a jack-of-all-trades is a bad thing. O'Shea is another example, able to play in about 50 different positions averagely.
There's only two positions Gerrard can play properly - on the right and in the hole. That's not very complete, to me. Iniesta can do Gerrard plus the left and central midfield as well as the occasional shift at defensive midfield. Ballack at his best can do any central midfield role while Essien is like Gerrard but can do defensive roles and is good at them, unlike Gerrard's "optional" roles on the left and in central midfield.
He is a pretty complete player but there are glaring weaknesses in his game - work rate, position discipline and tackling. He's not the sort of person you'd want to control a midfield - it speaks volumes that he works best with two holding midfielders behind him!
But in some ways being a jack-of-all-trades is a bad thing. O'Shea is another example, able to play in about 50 different positions averagely.
There's only two positions Gerrard can play properly - on the right and in the hole. That's not very complete, to me. Iniesta can do Gerrard plus the left and central midfield as well as the occasional shift at defensive midfield. Ballack at his best can do any central midfield role while Essien is like Gerrard but can do defensive roles and is good at them, unlike Gerrard's "optional" roles on the left and in central midfield.
i suspect the guys who wrote those posts are very young
Gerard is a very good premiership player; no doubt. On his day he can even be described as world class. However his day doesnt come often enough, he disappears at international level for example.
Robson... Now, he really had all the attributes of a top central midfielder
Not to mention Keane or numerous others
Gerard is a very good premiership player; no doubt. On his day he can even be described as world class. However his day doesnt come often enough, he disappears at international level for example.
Robson... Now, he really had all the attributes of a top central midfielder
Not to mention Keane or numerous others
Obviously they don't remember all the times when Keano played him off the park. Gerrard used to go missing in so many matches when up against Keane and Scholes.
Delusional feckers. Cryuff could certainly use both feet. Ive seen countless footage of him using both feet to beat a man etc.
As for best all round player in the Premier League in the last ten years my fecking arse. Henry was the best in the league of recent, before him we had Eric Cantona.
Twats utter feckin Twats he's good but jesus christ he aint that feckign good. keane made him look like a child on the park anytime they locked horns
As for best all round player in the Premier League in the last ten years my fecking arse. Henry was the best in the league of recent, before him we had Eric Cantona.
Twats utter feckin Twats he's good but jesus christ he aint that feckign good. keane made him look like a child on the park anytime they locked horns
Fixed.
You'll have to fix it again in a few months time...
I'm hoping so
I rate GBs post here, Gerrard is a good footballer on his day but some of his appearences for England have been dire.
He can do everything, pass, score, tackle, hand in a transfer request, dive, assault people.
Brilliant!
Brilliant!
Gerrard is the most overrated player I am ever heard of. He is regarded as world class for what he does in 15 minutes of a match. For the other 75 minutes you wouldn't even realise he was playing. If he was at United I would hate him as I hate those type of players.
Playing in the hole is always not that easy, fits only for lazy footballers it takes great footballing brains to do that Baggio, Bergkamp, Rivaldo, Totti to name a few. Even Paul fecking Scholes, with his gifted vision initially struggled a bit before settling in that role.
Gerrard doesnt have any footballing brains, or technical ability to play the role his compensates that with his strength on ball and running all over the park and even this season Benetiz subbed him when they need a goal fully aware his pranks are going beyond the limits.
Overall Gerrard's a footballer who can fit well in Benetiz system, or he gets projected a a good player simply because Benetiz plays the attack around him. He lacks the flair to raise above the system when it matters, that differentiates between good footballers and the great ones that I had mentioned.
Some players in the hole are not lazy.
Del Piero did an awful lot of closing down when we played Juventus in pre-season, and quite a bit of defending too.
And Rooney isn't lazy either.
Or Kaká.
Del Piero did an awful lot of closing down when we played Juventus in pre-season, and quite a bit of defending too.
And Rooney isn't lazy either.
Or Kaká.
Kaka roled varied whenever he played in a hole behind two strikers Sheva and Crespo or a lone striker alone compared to what he does this season, playing along with two other forwards. Zidane was playing in the hole when Del Piero played along with him if my memory serves right. Rooney's running around a lot even playing the hole undid him on the longer run apparently, at times losing confidence and catching up with injuries, its after Fergie made him to tone down his needless runs along with a temperament check, he's more consistent footballer rather playing blinders in three matches and missing out for a month.
But both Rooney and Kaka at least have the technical ability on the ball to make it to the next level..Gerrard clearly does not have that, once he loses his running ability by a fraction he must retire.
Gerrard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pele, Cruyff.
Only in RAWK.
Only in RAWK.
Jesus christ I feel like counting to ten. What a load of scouse shite. Even when his engine had gone and legs were failing Keane pissed all over Gerard purely using his ability to read the game. In fairness to Gerard he acknowledged this about his game its just the dillusional scousers who feel the need to have something thats the best in the world!
Look at the state of him playing international football.
Look at the state of him playing international football.
Positionally shit and gives away possession far too much. Apart from that he's a terrific player. If he'd come to United when he was about 23/4 and had some proper coaching God only knows how good he could have been. On a par with Keane and Robson I'd guess.
Doubt that,
Had he made his move before Houlliers last season at Pool he would've developed as a decent midfielder for us but Fergie would've converted him as a proper right sided attacking player. As of now we have Ronaldo, Rooney, Berbatov and Tevez who can all use the ball better than Gerrard. Gerrard partnering with either Carrick or Anderson in the midfield is a potential disaster, Carrick with Gerrard is a muppets dream, Capello reads that clearly and it never gonna happen even for England.