Park Ji Sung

Escobar

Shameless Musketeer
Joined
Jun 8, 2004
Messages
30,230
Location
La-La-Land
Had the discussion last night whether we need another winger for next season. TBH, I am not sure
 

UnofficialDevil

Anti Scottish and Preoccupied with Donkeys.
Joined
Aug 5, 2006
Messages
19,029
Location
I'm not anti Scottish, I just wanted Moyes out.
I rate Park.

I thought he was great last night. Just like he was in last years Champions League games.
Which is why most of us thought he deserved a place in the final.

But we are just going to have to accept that he probably will never score!
 

Anduin

Full Member
Joined
Jan 7, 2008
Messages
5,578
Location
Magical Manchester United.
Tbh I was very impressed by his defensive work yesterday, Maicon could do nothing going forward. I think one of the main reasons (beside controlling the midfield) we did so well in the first half was because Inter lacked attacking threat down their wings - Santon is young and inexperienced while Maicon was in Park's pocket.
I'm pretty sure he will start the home leg as well... and rightly so.
 

Treble

Full Member
Joined
Sep 11, 2008
Messages
10,550
Tbh I was very impressed by his defensive work yesterday, Maicon could do nothing going forward. I think one of the main reasons (beside controlling the midfield) we did so well in the first half was because Inter lacked attacking threat down their wings - Santon is young and inexperienced while Maicon was in Park's pocket.
I'm pretty sure he will start the home leg as well... and rightly so.
same here
 

Escobar

Shameless Musketeer
Joined
Jun 8, 2004
Messages
30,230
Location
La-La-Land
Tosic, Ronaldo, Nani, Park?

Don't think so.
Take Ronaldo away, obviously. Who would you play in a CL final? Tosic has a long way to go. Nani is talented, but not consistent enough. We all know the strengths of Park, but we also know that he's not a very dangerous or creative player as he could / should be.

If Hargreaves would be fit, Park wouldnt get as many games as he did plus wasnt in the squad in last years CL final. So my point remains that the other winger's position might be our weak point and might be reinforced (unless we're going to play Hargreaves on the right once he fully recovers)
 

Brwned

Have you ever been in love before?
Joined
Apr 18, 2008
Messages
50,849
To be fair we can't be too sure on this guy just yet - only had few minutes on th epitch to show he's going to be capable at this level.

Obvioulsy I hope he turns out to be another excellent buy from SAF - but at this minute in time i'm not sure we can count on him.
I'm not sure we can count on bringing someone new in, either.

He's not guaranteed to be a success, but the same can be said for a lot of wingers we might buy. There aren't many good ones floating about right now.
 

Escobar

Shameless Musketeer
Joined
Jun 8, 2004
Messages
30,230
Location
La-La-Land
I'm not sure we can count on bringing someone new in, either.

He's not guaranteed to be a success, but the same can be said for a lot of wingers we might buy. There aren't many good ones floating about right now.
There are. The question is rather the price or whether they are available
 

Brwned

Have you ever been in love before?
Joined
Apr 18, 2008
Messages
50,849
Take Ronaldo away, obviously. Who would you play in a CL final? Tosic has a long way to go. Nani is talented, but not consistent enough. We all know the strengths of Park, but we also know that he's not a very dangerous or creative player as he could / should be.

If Hargreaves would be fit, Park wouldnt get as many games as he did plus wasnt in the squad in last years CL final. So my point remains that the other winger's position might be our weak point and might be reinforced (unless we're going to play Hargreaves on the right once he fully recovers)
Why are we taking Ronaldo away?:confused:

You just don't think Park's very good, thinly veiled attempt at you saying you'd rather he doesn't start for us. Which is rubbish.

Like you said, we could play Hargreaves there. That's one top class winger and three good-very good wingers.
 

Escobar

Shameless Musketeer
Joined
Jun 8, 2004
Messages
30,230
Location
La-La-Land
Tbh I was very impressed by his defensive work yesterday, Maicon could do nothing going forward. I think one of the main reasons (beside controlling the midfield) we did so well in the first half was because Inter lacked attacking threat down their wings - Santon is young and inexperienced while Maicon was in Park's pocket.
I'm pretty sure he will start the home leg as well... and rightly so.
This is true, and these are the games where he's very important to our team. Nevertheless, for a winger, he should be much more dangerous in the final third and be more creative. I am not 100% sure that he will play in the home game
 

Brwned

Have you ever been in love before?
Joined
Apr 18, 2008
Messages
50,849
There are. The question is rather the price or whether they are available
Fine, there aren't many available at a good price right now.

Who are these quality wingers floating about then?
 

Escobar

Shameless Musketeer
Joined
Jun 8, 2004
Messages
30,230
Location
La-La-Land
Why are we taking Ronaldo away?:confused:

You just don't think Park's very good, thinly veiled attempt at you saying you'd rather he doesn't start for us. Which is rubbish.

Like you said, we could play Hargreaves there. That's one top class winger and three good-very good wingers.
Because he's obviously our best winger and his quality and position in the team is undoubted, something you cant say about the other wingers.

Thats bollocks, I have always rated Park, since the very start, as I have with Fletcher. Why cant you point out a weakness in a player or question a part of his game before someone comes out and says that you dont rate the player at all. The thing is, Park's strengths (movement, tracking back, football brain) are one part. What I would like to see more from him is a much better final ball, better crosses and generally more dangerous play around the box. That's his weakness imo. Doesnt mean that I dont rate the lad
 

Woodzy

Full Member
Joined
Sep 10, 2004
Messages
14,765
Location
Cardiff
He looked a real threat last night i thought. He was everywhere and always in the box when he needed to be. At the same time though, i have very little confidence in him putting the ball in the back of the net.
 

Brwned

Have you ever been in love before?
Joined
Apr 18, 2008
Messages
50,849
FRank Ribery would walk into our first XI, he's a fantastic player.

That's about it though.
Yep, you could possibly make a case for David Silva as well, but that is about it.
 

Brwned

Have you ever been in love before?
Joined
Apr 18, 2008
Messages
50,849
Because he's obviously our best winger and his quality and position in the team is undoubted, something you cant say about the other wingers.

Thats bollocks, I have always rated Park, since the very start, as I have with Fletcher. Why cant you point out a weakness in a player or question a part of his game before someone comes out and says that you dont rate the player at all. The thing is, Park's strengths (movement, tracking back, football brain) are one part. What I would like to see more from him is a much better final ball, better crosses and generally more dangerous play around the box. That's his weakness imo. Doesnt mean that I dont rate the lad
Doesn't matter, he's still one of our wingers.

Then you've got Nani, Park and Hargreaves, and I'd be happy to have any of those three playing in the Champions League final.

It's his weakness, but it's not a big one. His interplay around the box more than make up for his lack of cutting edge inside the box.
 

jgraham

Company man, hitched.
Joined
Mar 19, 2008
Messages
16,496
Location
punching cats for eggs at a dustbin near you
I personally don't feel we need a new winger.

Hargreaves will hopefully be back stronger than ever next season, and if we had to i'd be comfortable with seeing the twins take some of the pressure of the wingers by playing there from time to time.

IF and its a big IF we had to buy someone, Ribery would of course be ideal but Ashley Young I think would also be a decent signing. But again i'll say I don't think it's an area we need to strengthen.
 

anything about now

MUFC lad living in a matriel world
Joined
Nov 18, 2007
Messages
6,503
IMO the likes of Ribery and Silva would replace Nani, not Park. They are far too attacking minded, we would definitely miss the tenacity of Park especially when our midfield is Scholes-Carrick. If Nani can come good then we wouldn't need any wingers at all, just need to sort out the Tevez deal or sign another striker.
 

Floyd

Doesn't like his Tagline played with
Joined
Apr 27, 2000
Messages
8,526
FRank Ribery would walk into our first XI, he's a fantastic player.

That's about it though.
I'm getting giddy merely thinking about Ribery and Ronaldo on the wings for us, it'd be just sick.

:drool:

Bayern would take us to the cleaners though no doubt.
 

Anduin

Full Member
Joined
Jan 7, 2008
Messages
5,578
Location
Magical Manchester United.
Fine, there aren't many available at a good price right now.
Spot on. Bar Ribery there is none - and even Ribery would probably go for nothing less than £30-40m considering the fact he plays for Bayern and they hardly let anyone (they want to keep) leave for small money. All the other options are either not better than what we have (Ronaldo, Park, Nani, not counting Tosic so far but I'm sure he'll come good) or are just a slight improvement. Hargreaves will add another dimension to our wing options once he is back though, he'll have a hard time settling in the centre and we all know he is a superb crosser and never loses his eye for his defensive responsibilities.
On a sidenote this is exactly why I don't understand why Nani gets so much stick - wingers always have it hard and players like Ronaldo are rare. Park lacks the cutting edge and quality in the final third, Nani is not consistent enough, Hargreaves is injured, Tosic is small and inexperienced... we will always have something to complain, in the end we have to realize we have some very good wingers at our club.
 

Brophs

The One and Only
Joined
Nov 28, 2006
Messages
50,471
He did lots of work for us last night, stayed with Maicon all night, but offered next to nothing going forward. His passing was off, and he seemed to lose the ball quite a bit.

But, that's just one game. He's been excellent for us over the course of the season. We all know his flaws, and they aren't going anywhere, so why not accept him for the player he is rather than the player some want him to be?
 

Escobar

Shameless Musketeer
Joined
Jun 8, 2004
Messages
30,230
Location
La-La-Land
Doesn't matter, he's still one of our wingers.

Then you've got Nani, Park and Hargreaves, and I'd be happy to have any of those three playing in the Champions League final.

It's his weakness, but it's not a big one. His interplay around the box more than make up for his lack of cutting edge inside the box.
It does. Because his position is very clear as well as his ability. He's a certain starter, unlike the other ones. Got it now?

None of the others could be sure of a place in the starting XI of a big game, except maybe Hargreaves if he'd be fully fit, and that for the reason because they lack something. He's a winger, and not being dangerous around the box or lack of cutting edge is a bit of a bigger weakness. We all know he can do it (showed it 3 years ago as well as before his lengthy injury), but he needs to do it on a regular basis
 

Godfather

Full Member
Joined
Feb 18, 2007
Messages
29,968
Location
Austria
Great player.

Yesterday he was a bit annyoing though. Fighted hard, got many balls, but wasnt able to cross it or be threatening.
 

Sylar

Full Member
Joined
May 15, 2007
Messages
40,517
Park was a better attacker for PSV but is a better player now that hes joined u.
 

girish

I too love women...for their shoes.
Joined
Jul 23, 2004
Messages
14,495
Location
Kerala,India
If Rooney had been on the pitch yesterday with him, this thread wouldn't have been posted.
 

MUFCgal

Full Member
Joined
Nov 8, 2005
Messages
19,837
Location
Belfast, Northern Ireland
Jeez, if it isn't Berbatov then it's Park. I just don't get this, I really don't. Berbatov's a great player and Park is a great player. Sometimes they'll have brilliant matches, other times they won't.....get over it and support them please!
 

buckooo1978

Full Member
Joined
Jul 14, 2008
Messages
13,768
park has been a dependable player in all the games he's played this season and at times he has offered a real attacking threat - moreso than he has done in previous seasons...

he definately deserves his place in the side and offers good balance with ronaldo....
 
Joined
Jun 24, 2004
Messages
33,953
Location
Red man down in London town
He's not an average player. There is a reason why he has been consistently in our starting team for most of the season. It is also not a coincidence that his appearances have coincided with us getting this far in the Champions League and dominating Inter in their own yard, reaching the top of the Premier League table, breaking all kinds of records, doing well in the cups, etc. Sure last night was not his most spectacular game in offensive terms but we had a game play against Inter Milan and it worked for the most part. Park gave us extra security from the wing and kept their attackers quiet while he also assisted our attack when necessary. He put in another breathless shift and should be commended for that.

Oh and Happy Birthday to Park Ji Sung today! :devil:

 

Name Changed

weso26
Joined
Jan 10, 2008
Messages
27,395
Location
Dublin
is distinctly average at best. He has no attacking attributes. Discuss.
Ridiculous stupid comment. Just because he wasn't that good going forward in last night's match does not mean he has no attacking attributes. Obviously you have not watched any of United's matches over the last couple of years. Overall his general play was quite good.
 

marcus agrippa

Full Member
Joined
May 13, 2005
Messages
7,496
Location
"Clattenburg!- Jesus God!" - SAF
i'll tell you one thing, if i was an attacking player, i'd absolutely, unequivocally HATE to play against Park. hate it. he would never give me a moment's peace, and would never stop running. i'd fecking hate it. and then he'd keep popping up in spaces i didn't even think to track back looking for him. he'd be a nightmare to come up against if i were even marginally less fit than he was.

that's why he's in the team.
 

amolbhatia50k

Sneaky bum time - Vaccination status: dozed off
Joined
Nov 8, 2002
Messages
95,792
Location
india
Good player but i just wonder how good he could be if he had end product. The 'defensive winger' thread was rather harsh but it did have a point. Park is a very useful player who links up really well and adds a lot of value to our build up play as well as defensive solidarity. BUT he does sadly lack end product. It just seems to be a thing with him, hell do all his good work in the middle third but as an attacking threat he lags behind.

Also, some people have been claiming he was our best winger until recently this season, which is absolute nonsese. I rate Park but an off form Ronaldo is twice as good as him.