you've got to be his mum, or one of his close friends/relatives carrying on like this. so tell me, what's Wayne's side of the story?
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
your right if he stays in the prem then its about money and you have a point about other clubs catching up and possibly passing us by spending millions more then us over the last couple of years but Seriously inter is not better then us now and chelsea are not better then us. Barca are imo the best team in the world and Real may be the best but we are still in the discussion. You can argue that we havent spent the money to stay the best but these are decisions made by men who know more about this game then you or I could ever hope to.
Finally i wasnt mocking you about your knowledge of our achievements in the past couple of years it was to make a larger point about how successful we have been and will continue to be. When you consider how the greatest English team in history (according to them) have not won the league in the last 20 years you can see how slippery the slope can be. United are a brand like the Yankees in America and will always strive to be the best lets not forget that Madrid dont win the ECL every year neither do Barca or Inter or Milan and neither do we. We cant be all conquering every year or be naive by spending millions on players who may not produce.
I understand this is an emotional day and if Rooney does go to Shitty i will bemoan him just as much as any other person on here but i truly think it goes deeper then this.
For me at least i hope im right and he is trying to do this for his family.
OliverKayTimes
Largely unreported amid Rooney chaos was (genuine) ankle injury sustained in training today in challenge with ... Scholes
Largely unreported amid Rooney chaos was (genuine) ankle injury sustained in training today in challenge with ... Scholes
you sound like his wife, wanting to take him back even after his betrayal
if JM wants the united job, he should buy wayne because we don't want give any more charity to fat scousers. and then in a couple of years JM comes and brings back the true heir to law, robson, and cantona.
Which comment is ridiculous?
What else do you want to have an idea about? Whose talking about not playing in the first place? We're saying that NOW that he's not interesting in playing for the club, he shouldn't play for us.
Not sure what you're on about.
He's really desperate for Rooney to stay isn't he? Guess even he does not want to take charge of a Rooney-less squad
Well to be fair Jose's desperate for the United job
yes i back SAF in this.
So we will have lost arguably our 3 best players in the last 2 years. I hope this isn't a sign of the Glazers' lack of ambition because they have no money. Maybe Rooney has unsettled the whole team and that is why the results have been poor.
As for Rooney just saying he wishes to go, surely he owes SAF a reason.
As for Rooney just saying he wishes to go, surely he owes SAF a reason.
Knew it would be Scholes....
Should we be praising scholes right now?
Guardiola: "Rooney will leave Man United? What can I say? He's a great, great player, one of the best around."
Vultures
Vultures
The question is, were we really much better off 6 months ago when he was saying he wants to stay and try and emulate Giggs, and end his career at the club? Our financial situation was pretty damn similar wasnt it?
It may be the excuse he uses when he talks, but his change of heart from 6 months ago makes no sense with that excuse.
I would back him 100%.Rooney is dead to me now, something terrible could happen to him that I wouldn't necessarily care
OP said sit him in the stands... feck that, too.
Now there is a footballer that young Wayne could learn something from.
For all the media uproar caused by his actions his departure would be no more than a blip in our history. Yet grown men will cry their eyes out when the ginger maestro hangs up his boots.
Well in Scholesy
True United legend , I rather have one Scholesy than a hundred sad tramps like RooneyKnew it would be Scholes....
Ok, explain something.
You'd like to believe the manager about what exactly?
I'll try once more....pay attention....
ALL WE KNOW SO FAR IS THAT SAF HAS SAID THAT ROONEY WANTS TO LEAVE....NOTHING ELSE.
So yeah, i believe SAF when he says that Rooney wants to leave. Of course i do. No reason not to.
But everyone talking about "Nobody is bigger than the club" is completely unfounded because we don't know anything else that would remotely suggest that he thinks he is.
Understand?
OliverKayTimes Oliver Kay
Largely unreported amid Rooney chaos was (genuine) ankle injury sustained in training today in challenge with ... Scholes
That's our boy!
Largely unreported amid Rooney chaos was (genuine) ankle injury sustained in training today in challenge with ... Scholes
That's our boy!
Hmmm. Agents and their agendas concern me greatly too.
I do hope that Rooney agents are the truthful type or they could have misinformed him about any contract negotiations from United.
The more I read about it all, the more I don't understand it. He just had the best season of his life and said he wanted to stay here for ever and suddenly he wants to go. What has happened? Does he feel that the players in the team are not good enough to play with him; is it money; is it his private life? It just doesn't make sense to me.
It is beginning to look like City have been lining this up for a while, Rooney who lets face is not the brightest spark in the world is perhaps being manipulated by people who stand to make fortunes, he will live to regret it
I hope they let him rot on the bench until the door hits him in the ass on the way out!
A player who says he wants to leave the club at the beginning of a season, but gives no explanation as to why, must think he's bigger than the club.
If Rooney does go to city, Neville could end his career in a blaze of glory by doing a hatchet job on him come February. Shame Keane isn't still with the club...
I wouldn't even dirty the bench
Rios tweets would suggest the players knew nothing about this, as you'd think he'd be probably the player closest to Rooney. Hopefully they can talk some sense into him
Honestly after all the talk and seeing his body language I knew he was on his way out. I only hope we have the funds to actually get 2 good signing.
He won't be playing for anyone, all we need to do is, keep Scholesy around him.
from somewhere on the net :
He spoke like a father who had been betrayed by his favourite son.
“The boy,” he kept calling him. An old man still in mourning for a dear and cherished gift that had been lost.
A man who found himself caught between vengeance and grief.
For the first time in his public life, Sir Alex Ferguson did not bother to try to cloak his hurt in a fit of anger or a burst of resentment.
Instead, the Manchester United manager made it clear that the pain he feels at what he views as the treachery of Wayne Rooney runs deep.
His vulnerability, his utter bemusement at how and why this had happened, filled the hushed room at Old Trafford and turned it into one of the most compelling pieces of football theatre that we have ever seen.
By the end of it, he had buried Rooney by painting him in vivid colours as the villain of the piece, the vandal who had daubed graffiti on the altar.
It was the performance even of Ferguson’s life, a masterclass of a speech that reached out to United supporters by invoking the club’s history and its traditions, a stirring call to arms in what feels like a gathering crisis.
To achieve that, though, Ferguson knew he could not spare himself. And so suddenly, this man who has always hated even hinting at internal conflict at his club was speaking about his best player as if he had desecrated everything Manchester United stood for.
Suddenly, he was sitting before us fighting to uphold his honour and the honour of the football club whose modern value system is his creation.
It was easy to think of him as he sat on that dais, flanked by John O’Shea and the United press officer Karen Shotbolt, as an old man holding his arms out wide, trying to halt the tide.
He had lost Cristiano Ronaldo and Carlos Tevez but Ferguson did not even try to hide the fact that he never thought he would lose Rooney.
If there was one tiny corner of innocence left in Ferguson after all these years of staying at the top in a hard, hard game, his demeanour yesterday said that it had vanished when Rooney told him he wanted to leave.
There was a catch in his voice as he spoke. Tears welled in his eyes.
It was as if he had invested more in Rooney than the rest.
As if Rooney was his last great hope, the brightest light in the autumn of Ferguson’s career, the man who would deliver the third European Cup Ferguson craves to crown his career.
He was his final project, the street footballer he thought that he could relate to, the lad he thought was immune to the whispers of agents and the lure of gold.
He believed him, he said, when Rooney told everyone he wanted to stay at United for life.
He believed him when he said there was nowhere else he would rather be. Maybe he was this angry when David Beckham left but he was never this wounded and never this despairing.
He had sensed an inevitability about Beckham’s departure. It was business. But this was personal and so it cut deeper.
But Ferguson was always going to come out fighting and so, out of the mire of his *bemusement, Britain’s greatest manager found great strength and determination.
Ferguson has made some powerful speeches in his time but most of them have been behind a closed dressing room door.
This oration was different.
This one laid bare in front of everyone the great schism between him and Rooney.
The depth of its rawness startled everyone who witnessed it.
It was as if he viewed Rooney’s turning away as a symptom of all that is wrong with a modern game that even Ferguson, the great survivor, the eternal enthusiast, is struggling to love.
It was as if Rooney’s defection was an assault on all the values that have underpinned his 24 years in charge at Old Trafford.
Ferguson couched Rooney’s refusal to sign a new contract in emotive terms.
He spoke of how he had always ensured that United was “a harbour” for him in times of trouble.
He drew a portrait of an ungrateful man, a man who he had tried to protect him from the slings and arrows of the wider world and who had flung all the club’s kindnesses back in his face.
Indignation began to colour Ferguson’s words now. Rooney, he made it clear, had not just betrayed him. He had betrayed the family that Ferguson has built at Old Trafford.
“We have done nothing but help him since he came here,” Ferguson said, as if Rooney had been United’s favourite Oliver Twist. “I can’t believe this has happened.”
Rooney may just be realising the fury he has unleashed.
He is not fit to play against Bursaspor tonight which, given the strength of feeling Ferguson has stirred up against him, may be a good thing.
It is hard to see, in fact, how the relationship between the two men can ever be repaired.
Rooney is the favourite son no more.
He spoke like a father who had been betrayed by his favourite son.
“The boy,” he kept calling him. An old man still in mourning for a dear and cherished gift that had been lost.
A man who found himself caught between vengeance and grief.
For the first time in his public life, Sir Alex Ferguson did not bother to try to cloak his hurt in a fit of anger or a burst of resentment.
Instead, the Manchester United manager made it clear that the pain he feels at what he views as the treachery of Wayne Rooney runs deep.
His vulnerability, his utter bemusement at how and why this had happened, filled the hushed room at Old Trafford and turned it into one of the most compelling pieces of football theatre that we have ever seen.
By the end of it, he had buried Rooney by painting him in vivid colours as the villain of the piece, the vandal who had daubed graffiti on the altar.
It was the performance even of Ferguson’s life, a masterclass of a speech that reached out to United supporters by invoking the club’s history and its traditions, a stirring call to arms in what feels like a gathering crisis.
To achieve that, though, Ferguson knew he could not spare himself. And so suddenly, this man who has always hated even hinting at internal conflict at his club was speaking about his best player as if he had desecrated everything Manchester United stood for.
Suddenly, he was sitting before us fighting to uphold his honour and the honour of the football club whose modern value system is his creation.
It was easy to think of him as he sat on that dais, flanked by John O’Shea and the United press officer Karen Shotbolt, as an old man holding his arms out wide, trying to halt the tide.
He had lost Cristiano Ronaldo and Carlos Tevez but Ferguson did not even try to hide the fact that he never thought he would lose Rooney.
If there was one tiny corner of innocence left in Ferguson after all these years of staying at the top in a hard, hard game, his demeanour yesterday said that it had vanished when Rooney told him he wanted to leave.
There was a catch in his voice as he spoke. Tears welled in his eyes.
It was as if he had invested more in Rooney than the rest.
As if Rooney was his last great hope, the brightest light in the autumn of Ferguson’s career, the man who would deliver the third European Cup Ferguson craves to crown his career.
He was his final project, the street footballer he thought that he could relate to, the lad he thought was immune to the whispers of agents and the lure of gold.
He believed him, he said, when Rooney told everyone he wanted to stay at United for life.
He believed him when he said there was nowhere else he would rather be. Maybe he was this angry when David Beckham left but he was never this wounded and never this despairing.
He had sensed an inevitability about Beckham’s departure. It was business. But this was personal and so it cut deeper.
But Ferguson was always going to come out fighting and so, out of the mire of his *bemusement, Britain’s greatest manager found great strength and determination.
Ferguson has made some powerful speeches in his time but most of them have been behind a closed dressing room door.
This oration was different.
This one laid bare in front of everyone the great schism between him and Rooney.
The depth of its rawness startled everyone who witnessed it.
It was as if he viewed Rooney’s turning away as a symptom of all that is wrong with a modern game that even Ferguson, the great survivor, the eternal enthusiast, is struggling to love.
It was as if Rooney’s defection was an assault on all the values that have underpinned his 24 years in charge at Old Trafford.
Ferguson couched Rooney’s refusal to sign a new contract in emotive terms.
He spoke of how he had always ensured that United was “a harbour” for him in times of trouble.
He drew a portrait of an ungrateful man, a man who he had tried to protect him from the slings and arrows of the wider world and who had flung all the club’s kindnesses back in his face.
Indignation began to colour Ferguson’s words now. Rooney, he made it clear, had not just betrayed him. He had betrayed the family that Ferguson has built at Old Trafford.
“We have done nothing but help him since he came here,” Ferguson said, as if Rooney had been United’s favourite Oliver Twist. “I can’t believe this has happened.”
Rooney may just be realising the fury he has unleashed.
He is not fit to play against Bursaspor tonight which, given the strength of feeling Ferguson has stirred up against him, may be a good thing.
It is hard to see, in fact, how the relationship between the two men can ever be repaired.
Rooney is the favourite son no more.
don't want him back. Not after what he has done to the club and SAF
don't let the door hit you on the way out Wayne
I hope it smashes his head in 2
Scholesy's very fond of Fergie.
It would actually be interesting to see how many on here would actually want him to stay after all this and the way hes treated the club, whod take him back?
Personally he can rot as far as im concerned, feck him, hope he plays 1 more game for the club in front of a packed old trafford and gets ripped to pieces the disloyal money grabbing prick.
Personally he can rot as far as im concerned, feck him, hope he plays 1 more game for the club in front of a packed old trafford and gets ripped to pieces the disloyal money grabbing prick.
He won't go anywhere. This is just saf calling his bluff.