Rafa charged by FA for improper conduct, fecking cnuts.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I'm not sure why. Most players argue with the ref whilst coming off.
3 game ban presumably.
3 game ban presumably.
Hardly a surprise...given the circumstances yet another idiotic decision
Barcelona Set Sights On Highly Rated Manchester United Youngster
just sell the little bugger for all the trouble
Barcelona Set Sights On Highly Rated Manchester United Youngster | CaughtOffside
Barcelona boss Pep Guardiola has set his sights on capturing Manchester United right back Rafael and has earmarked the Brazilian as a summer target. The 20 year old Brazilian has had a great season thus far at Old Trafford and Sir Alex Ferguson is likely to shun moves from the Catalan giants.
Current Barcelona right back Dani Alves has spent the best part of a year trying trying to get the La Liga giants to agree to his new contract demands but seems no nearer to getting the deal he wants and that has led to speculation that the former Sevilla man may leave for pastures new with the likes of Chelsea and Manchester City said to be interested.
Regardless of whether Alves stays, Guardiola is looking to bring in a new full back to keep him on his toes and the Barcelona boss believes his international team mate Rafael would be perfect for the job.
Rafael arrived at Man United, along with his twin brother, in January 2008 and has proceeded to force his way into the first team reckoning and is now arguably the club’s first choice right back and as such Ferguson is unlikely to accept offers for the former Fluminense man.
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just sell the little bugger for all the trouble
Barcelona Set Sights On Highly Rated Manchester United Youngster | CaughtOffside
Barcelona boss Pep Guardiola has set his sights on capturing Manchester United right back Rafael and has earmarked the Brazilian as a summer target. The 20 year old Brazilian has had a great season thus far at Old Trafford and Sir Alex Ferguson is likely to shun moves from the Catalan giants.
Current Barcelona right back Dani Alves has spent the best part of a year trying trying to get the La Liga giants to agree to his new contract demands but seems no nearer to getting the deal he wants and that has led to speculation that the former Sevilla man may leave for pastures new with the likes of Chelsea and Manchester City said to be interested.
Regardless of whether Alves stays, Guardiola is looking to bring in a new full back to keep him on his toes and the Barcelona boss believes his international team mate Rafael would be perfect for the job.
Rafael arrived at Man United, along with his twin brother, in January 2008 and has proceeded to force his way into the first team reckoning and is now arguably the club’s first choice right back and as such Ferguson is unlikely to accept offers for the former Fluminense man.
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To be fair, he was right up in Dean's face, screaming and swearing. Regardless of the call, it was fairly out of order. Had it been Gerrard (though you could argue he wouldn't have been charged), we'd be applauding the decision. He needs to cut that sort of petulance (the imaginary card-waving too) out, which he will. Though if they're applying it to one, they should apply it to all. The FA has a shocking history when it comes to singling out United players and ignoring similar incidents.
Rio Ferdinand missed a drugs test. He was banned for 8 months and fined £50,000. That same year Manchester City’s Christian Negouai missed a drugs test. He faced no ban and was fined £2,000. Adrian Mutu failed a drugs test the following year. He was banned for 7 months and fined £20,000.
Wayne Rooney and Paul Scholes received red cards in the pre-season Amsterdam tournament in 2006. The FA banned them for three Premiership games. When Neil Mellor and Steven Gerrard were sent off in the same tournament three years before they received no ban.
Ferdinand again was banned for swinging an arm against Hull City, when similar incidents with Gerrard and Mascherano around the same time were ignored. They then added another game for the "frivolous" appeal although similar appeals were left at the initial ban.
I guess it's to compensate for all the biased referees we get.
Rio Ferdinand missed a drugs test. He was banned for 8 months and fined £50,000. That same year Manchester City’s Christian Negouai missed a drugs test. He faced no ban and was fined £2,000. Adrian Mutu failed a drugs test the following year. He was banned for 7 months and fined £20,000.
Wayne Rooney and Paul Scholes received red cards in the pre-season Amsterdam tournament in 2006. The FA banned them for three Premiership games. When Neil Mellor and Steven Gerrard were sent off in the same tournament three years before they received no ban.
Ferdinand again was banned for swinging an arm against Hull City, when similar incidents with Gerrard and Mascherano around the same time were ignored. They then added another game for the "frivolous" appeal although similar appeals were left at the initial ban.
I guess it's to compensate for all the biased referees we get.
The card waving comment was harsh, it was obvious he did that because all of the Spurs players asked for him to be booked minutes earlier. I normally hate the card waving but this time I think he had good grounds.
Wayne Rooney gets away with it all day, every day. He could have done the same and the ref wouldn't have mentioned it.
I'm actually quite shocked by this though I shouldn't be.
What a fecking joke.
What a fecking joke.
Rooney could be clearly seen on camera yesterday calling the ref a 'fecking wanker' when he was already on a yellow.
Just look at how Dean puts his finger over his nose in the video. Last time I saw someone doing that was at a petulant three year old. Authority has gone to Dean's head. The worst thing Rafael did in the game was wave an imaginary yellow card, and kick the microphone whilst going off.
You need some passion in a player. They are not robots.
I'm sure Guardiola knows full well that United won't sell and therefore hasn't earmarked him as one of Barca's summer targets.just sell the little bugger for all the trouble
Barcelona Set Sights On Highly Rated Manchester United Youngster | CaughtOffside
Barcelona boss Pep Guardiola has set his sights on capturing Manchester United right back Rafael and has earmarked the Brazilian as a summer target. The 20 year old Brazilian has had a great season thus far at Old Trafford and Sir Alex Ferguson is likely to shun moves from the Catalan giants.
Current Barcelona right back Dani Alves has spent the best part of a year trying trying to get the La Liga giants to agree to his new contract demands but seems no nearer to getting the deal he wants and that has led to speculation that the former Sevilla man may leave for pastures new with the likes of Chelsea and Manchester City said to be interested.
Regardless of whether Alves stays, Guardiola is looking to bring in a new full back to keep him on his toes and the Barcelona boss believes his international team mate Rafael would be perfect for the job.
Rafael arrived at Man United, along with his twin brother, in January 2008 and has proceeded to force his way into the first team reckoning and is now arguably the club’s first choice right back and as such Ferguson is unlikely to accept offers for the former Fluminense man.
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I'm sure the papers know this too...but it does make an interesting story and might sell some papers to worried fans so they'll publish it anyway.
EDIT: Apologies for reading a Caughtoffside article...in my defence I must stress that I failed to notice at the time.
Jesus, having watched it again it's even more innocuous that I remembered... pretty much every player does something like that when sent off, and most hang aronud for a lot longer refusing to go.
Pathetic decision by Dean made even more pathetic by the bent FA.
What was Gerrard's reaction to being sent off? I can't quite remember, but he didn't leave straight away.
He didn't get away with it yesterday, he was booked for dissent.
No matter how wrong the referee was you can't go running up to him and scream in his face. Stop making excuses up for him, he was stupid to do what he did and deserves his ban to say otherwise sounds very RAWKish
Yeah but after he got booked he still had a go and probably had a worse reaction. Its a shame refs arent put into the media after the games to explain their decision since they clearly love the attention. They can come out and explain what they saw cos after all they are still human. But saying that, mike dean should be punished for a poor decision...
He was and then later on Rooney could be clearly seen on camera calling the ref a 'fecking wanker' when he was already on a yellow.
The sad thing is his emotional and instinctive reaction is going to be punished more harshly than Babel's idiotic and calculated expression of opinion.
Couldn't tell, as the footage I found was replaying the challenge when Webb produced the red.
We can see that the commentator said "It's red!" at :32, and Gerrard walked off at :38, and he was still talking as he did. Looked like "feck off" at the end there, so, basically the same: 6 seconds of arguing, probably not in the politest of terms, and that's it.
True, but it's a total joke until all players are treated equally.
Pathetic decision made more pathetic by Dean submitting a report of misconduct. The FA are left with no choice.Pathetic decision by Dean made even more pathetic by the bent FA.
Going by past record I do agree we'll not get a fair hearing from the FA.
FA in overreaction against United to try and prove they're not biased shocker.
He was wrong to react in the manner he did but, at the same time the FA should show a modicum of sanity. When you've got the ABU media and the manager of the opposing team expressing what a bad call it was, then perhaps consider it as mitigating circumstances and let him off with a warning.
I'd say accept the charge and request a hearing. Surely reason should prevail but, then again when has the disciplinary board been anything but, reasonable and rather the most bent, inconsistent bunch of mongrels that continue to bastardize the sport.
I'd say accept the charge and request a hearing. Surely reason should prevail but, then again when has the disciplinary board been anything but, reasonable and rather the most bent, inconsistent bunch of mongrels that continue to bastardize the sport.
Nah, I was there. Gerrard walked pretty much straight off in fairness, apart from chucking his armband to someone else.
you can't be serious Sults.
I hate the FA..I only hate Blatter and FIFA more.
But the lad was out of order.
If this is an extended ban, he has let the club down.
Dean is a spastic but I can tell you Fergie wont be happy with Rafael.
Shit like this happens. Just leave to fight another day.
The difference being he knew he deserved being sent off
A joke of a decision by the FA.
He'll miss Birmingham home, Blackpool and Southampton away, right? Back against Villa at home on the 1st February?
He'll miss Birmingham home, Blackpool and Southampton away, right? Back against Villa at home on the 1st February?
Two wrongs dont make a right, he shouldn't have gotten a yellow, but then players can be booked for card waving (or clapping) so he was lucky to be on the pitch anyway. Cant act like he did whether he deserved to be sent off or not.
Unlike the red itself, I don't think there can be too many complaints about this. He's argued and swore right up in his face which you can't do and then be surprised when punished. While I agree with the sentiment that the same should be implemented for all, which is probably not the case at the moment.
He was obviously pissed off at the poor decision, but can't keep doing that. Fergie will set him straight about that and the imaginary card waving I'm sure.
By the way though, what does a charge of misconduct actually mean? A hearing to decide whether there should be further punishment? If so is that likely to be 3 matches on top of the 1 he's already facing? I'd have thought 1 match extra would suffice.
He was obviously pissed off at the poor decision, but can't keep doing that. Fergie will set him straight about that and the imaginary card waving I'm sure.
By the way though, what does a charge of misconduct actually mean? A hearing to decide whether there should be further punishment? If so is that likely to be 3 matches on top of the 1 he's already facing? I'd have thought 1 match extra would suffice.
Don't think you can be booked for card waving, though its something I like many would like to see introduced.
The kid did not deserve to be sent off. He was unjustly punished. I understand a passionate and committed young kid react the way he did in a high profile game. If that means him missing a few matches so be it buddy.
He didn't swear to his face though, when he's at his face he says 'why' and 'I didn't touch him'. He swears on approach then probably when he's walking away.
Well, maybe not right in his face then, but he's shouting at him from close and then swears as you say on approach and leaving. You just can't do that.
Small comfort, but those should be three matches that we should be able to take without our first-choice right-back.
Unless he gets hit with a further ban for misconduct he only misses one game for two yellows.
You can.
Wow I can't believe people are on Rafael's back for showing a little bit of anger. All he did was "feck off. Hey! Why?" And it lasted about 5 seconds. Some people!
RoM
Unbelievable decision by the FA. Bet he gets a 5 game ban and Evra a 4 match ban
In a nutshell.
you are wrong buddy.
I agree he did not deserve to be sent off. And I understand his passion. But I do not condone it is all.
you play by the rules...end off.
Dean is an idiot. The FA has an agenda.
nothing to justify.
do you think Fergie will agree with you?