Oh dear.
Keys & Gray in Sexism Row
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Oh dear indeed....
Nothing egocentric about that at all Sam eh?
You cant see why, to people suffering from prejudice or oppression, who it is that leads the struggle from oppression and what the messages and aims portrayed as being representative of them, might be important to them?
'This is the concern for me, and thats all that matters, why would anyone disagree'...
Nothing egocentric about that at all Sam eh?
You cant see why, to people suffering from prejudice or oppression, who it is that leads the struggle from oppression and what the messages and aims portrayed as being representative of them, might be important to them?
I reckon it's Jamie, he's got his eyes on the big chair.
"Who leads the process of eliminating prejudice or discrimination is not of a concern to me. Eliminating them is the concern."
is quite clearly not:
"You've said quite clearly those effected are of secondary importance to the overall 'issue."
I never mentioned primary or secondary. I mentioned eliminating prejudice by whichever is the most effective means.
I thought Jamie was THE one to replace Fergie.Or will he do both jobs at the same time ? Imagine the scousers
Andy Gray sacking: Countless affairs, love children, the sordid truth about pundit | Mail Online
Must be posted already but he's absolute ripped apart here
Had Andy Gray not been born with the ability to head a ball extremely hard into the back of a net, one wonders what would have become of him.
As a young man he was cursed with a face only a mother could love; a sallow, greasy complexion which led to acne well into his 20s, topped with a curly mop of hair so unruly he was surely grateful for the early onset of male pattern baldness.
Thanks to his abilities as a footballer, however, such concerns were mere trifles.
Must be posted already but he's absolute ripped apart here
Had Andy Gray not been born with the ability to head a ball extremely hard into the back of a net, one wonders what would have become of him.
As a young man he was cursed with a face only a mother could love; a sallow, greasy complexion which led to acne well into his 20s, topped with a curly mop of hair so unruly he was surely grateful for the early onset of male pattern baldness.
Thanks to his abilities as a footballer, however, such concerns were mere trifles.
At the risk of being called a macho, a man of ancient times or to be insulted more strongly, I really meant everything (tbh I was kinda joking about the "kill" part)
Whether that involves and is primarily driven by 'victims' or not.
Well I totally disagree with you, I think who leads the process and how representative they are of the victims is of critical importance.
Whichever the most effective means, Popper.
Just as long as prejudice is eliminated in all forms.
The Mail really should have a red top.Andy Gray sacking: Countless affairs, love children, the sordid truth about pundit | Mail Online
Must be posted already but he's absolute ripped apart here
Had Andy Gray not been born with the ability to head a ball extremely hard into the back of a net, one wonders what would have become of him.
As a young man he was cursed with a face only a mother could love; a sallow, greasy complexion which led to acne well into his 20s, topped with a curly mop of hair so unruly he was surely grateful for the early onset of male pattern baldness.
Thanks to his abilities as a footballer, however, such concerns were mere trifles.
The same reason a pediatricians house got vandalised a couple of years back.
Andy Gray sacking: Countless affairs, love children, the sordid truth about pundit | Mail Online
Must be posted already but he's absolute ripped apart here
Had Andy Gray not been born with the ability to head a ball extremely hard into the back of a net, one wonders what would have become of him.
As a young man he was cursed with a face only a mother could love; a sallow, greasy complexion which led to acne well into his 20s, topped with a curly mop of hair so unruly he was surely grateful for the early onset of male pattern baldness.
Thanks to his abilities as a footballer, however, such concerns were mere trifles.
Classic example of what happens when those directly effected have no say.... the point is lost, and it becomes a personal attack serving no purpose that to feed a hunger from gossip...
Can you see now why who leads the cause might be slightly important.
Or do you think that article contributes effectively to the fight to stamp out prejudice?
Oh yeah, everything I have read so far comes off as the writers rubbing their hands at finally getting a chance to stick the knife into both of them, as the common view is both were disliked by most that came across them.
Andy Gray sacking: Countless affairs, love children, the sordid truth about pundit | Mail Online
Must be posted already but he's absolute ripped apart here
Had Andy Gray not been born with the ability to head a ball extremely hard into the back of a net, one wonders what would have become of him.
As a young man he was cursed with a face only a mother could love; a sallow, greasy complexion which led to acne well into his 20s, topped with a curly mop of hair so unruly he was surely grateful for the early onset of male pattern baldness.
Thanks to his abilities as a footballer, however, such concerns were mere trifles.
Jamie's revenge!
The story of Gray's life....succeeded by Jamie.
Without meaning to divert on another tangent altogether, if Andy Grays been fired for sexist comments off air.
Surely, the whole cast of Loose Women should be fired too!?
Surely, the whole cast of Loose Women should be fired too!?
As I keep saying. I don't have an opinion on who leads the cause as long as the end game is the same; stamping out prejudice. If it's victim lead, fine.
The Daily Mail won't help anyone fight any sort of prejudice. It is the bastion for middle class racism.
But if the media have played a part in uncovering endemic sexism at Sky and Sky are acting on it as a result, then I have no issue with that. And, I imagine, nor would the women at Sky either.
That's a disgusting hatchet job.Andy Gray sacking: Countless affairs, love children, the sordid truth about pundit | Mail Online
Must be posted already but he's absolute ripped apart here
Had Andy Gray not been born with the ability to head a ball extremely hard into the back of a net, one wonders what would have become of him.
As a young man he was cursed with a face only a mother could love; a sallow, greasy complexion which led to acne well into his 20s, topped with a curly mop of hair so unruly he was surely grateful for the early onset of male pattern baldness.
Thanks to his abilities as a footballer, however, such concerns were mere trifles.
On an unrelated note, it baffles me how a bit of fame and money can have people like Gray punching so far above their weight class. What's wrong with women?
I'm wondering whether Keys has ever "Hung out of the back of anything" or just sits there imagining what it's like.
Again, how do you KNOW what warnings any of them have on their employee records? you dont!
Keys would bring a whole new level of fear to the phrase 'I'll show you the hairy side of my hand'.
So he wasn't given an in house warning was he not?
Do you have a source to back that up?
Word Dawg.
I'd say if he tries to sue then he will end up wasting a lot of time and get trampled on by Sky's lawyers, who will be infinately better than his and have at least 3 videos and a history of many warnings given to Gray, and this is just what is in the public domain.
Sexist dicks get sacked. Does it really matter that SKY only did the right thing because they got outed?
I don't think Gray will want to sue.
Sky's lawyers will surely just send a man down to their archives to dig out all the material they have on this. Could get real ugly for him.
Sky's lawyers will surely just send a man down to their archives to dig out all the material they have on this. Could get real ugly for him.
I don't think it's a question o being 'outed'. I doubt the one's in charge pay attention to the daily happenings enough to be aware of talks like this off-screen.
It was brought to their attention and they reacted. You ask me, this was an inside job from one of a huge number of employees who have had access to these tapes and had probably heard stuff like this one time too many from them.
I hope to God there's no Keys and Gray threesome tape.
The only way Grey would lose a case like this is if he's had warnings in the past (verbal, then written) and was made aware that he was on his final warning. I somehow doubt that this was the case as he would not have continued to make comments even in a jokey way if he was on his final string.
If Sky havn't given him any warnings in the past and not made him aware of prior conduct then they are vicariously responsible for his actions by not nipping it in the bud. If this was the case Grey could even argue that Sky impliedly accepted sexism in the work place by not punishing it in the past and so he would be entitled to future loss of earnings in addition to having his contract fully paid up.
OK, so say he was given a warning for the comment he made to CJ. Then that would mean that they have now sacked him, so period of time after the event, over the same incident, would it not?
The courts may think so.
Hey, cut that out you sexist pig. I hope you are dealt with appropriately and sacked from your job.
Has everyone seen the youtube video called 'Keys and Redknapp would you smash it'?
Cant post the link as cant get on youtube at work but its absolutely hilarious
Keys: I could see Redknapp hanging out the back of that
Cant post the link as cant get on youtube at work but its absolutely hilarious
Keys: I could see Redknapp hanging out the back of that
It won't get to court.
He's on a warning, performs another 2 acts of a similar nature = rightful sacking.