Accepted. But perhaps FeedingSeagulls would like to accept that they oppose our current equality laws on the grounds they are too equal and are blind with respect to equality.
Keys & Gray in Sexism Row
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Not really - merely pointing out the vastly differing effects of negative stereotyping depending where in the power structure the group resides.
If you are all uncomfortable addressing this wrt sexism then examine the issues that had to be addressed in this regard for racism.
I think I perfectly understand you.
No need to attend bullshit feminists classes.They're among the people I dread the most
You've lost the plot mate.
I'd advise bowing out before you contemplate e-suicide.
41 pages over this story? FS.
The football league was formed in 1888, in all the time since then there have been 2 female officials in the top division, this clearly shows that women dominate the official positions on the pitch.
Too old! - having seen Charlton, Law and Best play. I also have to endure quite enough bigotry being expressed around me when supporting Utd anyway.
Keys resigned? I'm not surprised.
The media campaign has made things untenable for him and Gray. Whoever wanted them gone from inside the company has got their wish. The corporate world is a nasty place.
The media campaign has made things untenable for him and Gray. Whoever wanted them gone from inside the company has got their wish. The corporate world is a nasty place.
It was nicely done tbh.
cheek by jowl
You've seen Charlton, Law and Best play????? Oh wow, can i touch you.
When an institution has embraced embedded bigotry for decades the personnel is going to be highly infected by that - it will be difficult to even begin the necessary rebalancing that 'natural justice' unhindered by prejudice might have produced. So forcing a bigger minority representation via a 'helping hand' is entirely reasonable in general terms.
The problems of potentially disadvantaging a worthwhile candidate from the 'non-target' group (and these you will find debated in women's philosophy courses for example) are what make this otherwise worthwhile endeavour subject to debate.
LinesMAN wrongly flags Torres offside 
Why? Equality is a worthwhile goal and an excellent guide.
How we get there is the challenge.
Off the Beeb:Liverpool think they are 1-0 up... and so they should be. Raul Meireles sets Fernando Torres through and the Spaniard runs on to clip home, only to be pulled back the linesman's flag. Replays show, however, the Liverpool frontman was a good half a yard on when played in. Massive let-off for Fulham.
Intelligent, independent-minded women?
If you really did understand me then your earlier post was singularly irrelevant.
Doesn't sound too far removed from what Robert Mugabe subscribes to.
She was jealous of his hairLinesMAN wrongly flags Torres offside
That's the thing. Football has never been male dominated in the crowd.
There's also a difference between being in the crowd and having a television microphone.
Not necessarily all the time.
Some of them are a bunch of hysterical drama queens who are ready to use any excuse or situation to discharge their hatred towards men.
For the record, I'm not saying every feminists is like that but a huge number of them are and I know what I am talking about having encountered them or having seen men encounter them on many occasions.
I cringe at the sound of their voices and complaints
What the hell does that have to do with anything?
James Richardson should replace Keys. A well respected presenter and a great surprise he has not been on TV since Setanta went bust.
No its not.
It needs people to apply common sense and be professional in their approach.
Because our current quality laws protect against positive discrimination.
It would seem a step backwards to change the law to allow positive discrimination to occur. A move away from true equality if you will.
There's nothing positive about positive discrimination, it surely just breeds resentment.
Henry's looking up her shorts, he's always been a sucker for poon.
To show male referees that it is possible to make correct decisions frequently and consistently.
Not something anyone will ever say about you.
I don't think you’re right on the wider equality discussion but to be honest in this thread it's pointless trying to debate it because posters mistake looking at the wider picture for defending Keys or Gray. If you only look at work place discrimination then you miss issues around family law where the bias is as bad the other way.
I didn't say they weren't wrong in their opinion.
But where do you draw the line. Women dig at men all the time.
This is something people seem to find hard to grasp in discussions of racism as well as sexism
No everything isn't equivalent. Stereotyping of black people is obviously going to be more loaded than stereotyping of white people... that's what happens when one group gets sold, worked, bred and slaughtered like animals for several hundred years, and the other doesn't.
Same goes for sexism
No everything isn't equivalent. Stereotyping of black people is obviously going to be more loaded than stereotyping of white people... that's what happens when one group gets sold, worked, bred and slaughtered like animals for several hundred years, and the other doesn't.
Same goes for sexism
But Boots haven't made an advert mocking women or black people!
I oppose positive discrimination because it seems totally contrary to it's stated aim - equality and the eradication of discrimination.
Discriminating in the name of equality if you will.
Basically to sum up.
Gray and Keys did a thing.
The media blew it up.
The media bayed for blood.
The media got their way again.
Sorry what's the Boots thing? I only read the last few posts
They shouldn't be sacked because boots have an advert mocking men, or something like that, it didn't make much sense.