Manchester United 1:1 Arsenal

Yagami · Nov 19, 2016

It was definitely a pen.

OB · Nov 19, 2016

RetroStu said:
I don't know if you are being sarcastic but i was just making an observation lol.

I'm serious :lol:

serghei · Nov 19, 2016

paulscholes18 said:
Thought it was Walcott?

Could've been. They look about the same from a distance.

Gandalf Greyhame · Nov 19, 2016

It's really hard to believe the referees don't hate United - we never get good decisions under Mourinho. Given Mourinho's comments against them over the last few years, it is understandable.

Irrational. · Nov 19, 2016

The Hilton said:
He'd be one of the best players in the world if he had a left foot, it confounds me that nobody has stuck him in front of a wall and forced him to kick with his left until it's useful.

He does use it once in a blue moon. I think it's more of a confidence thing.

Mitser · Nov 19, 2016

Really good first half performance.
Everything but the goal(s), which hopefully will come with continued pressure in second half.

Definite pen too, looked like ref had a great view of it...bottled it big time.

Also I think Pogba has been a massive influence, most of our chances have come through his class interplay.

JinnerJamie · Nov 19, 2016

Giggs with the balls to tell it like it is.

lonelyred · Nov 19, 2016

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Posted at14:12
We've seen an angle on the replay from behind and that's the view Andre Marriner had. But you can still see Monreal's arm come across Valencia.

Mark Lawrenson: No, I have to say in that position, it's quite natural. No penalty.

SqueakyWeasel · Nov 19, 2016

Here we go … Sourness will say United are being overly aggressive. And it's not good football because the right team aren't winning!

kps88 · Nov 19, 2016

RetroStu said:
How would they know?

Yeah I think it's bullshit. No way could he have smuggled all that past security.

Tom Van Persie · Nov 19, 2016

Souness

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Bubz27 · Nov 19, 2016

Souness said Valencia forearm smashed Monreal :lol:

Walters_19_MuFc · Nov 19, 2016

Decent enough half.

Think Jones and Rojo have been fantastic defensively.

Mata and Valencia have been our best attacking players, in my opinion.

We do need to be mindful of whats in behind our midfield. A few times Sanchez has popped up in between the lines with no one around him.

ocprodigy · Nov 19, 2016

I love how the fact that Valencia is strong is being factored into this. He's strong so therefore he shouldn't earn a penalty.

Baxter · Nov 19, 2016

Souness of all cnuts calling that a forearm smash

roykeane19 · Nov 19, 2016

One thing I like about Pogba, despite giving the ball away alot, he doesnt lose his confidence, his passing, dribbling, and chances created are the best in our teams, the boy is very talented, just needs to learn when to keep it simple to stop giving he ball away so much

Jacko21 · Nov 19, 2016

I feel more and more apathy for this squad with each passing game. The lack of energy, conviction, desire is so demoralising.

Why do we take so long to do things? 30 seconds for a goal kick, twenty seconds for a thrown in, too slow to win the 50/50s... amble around in midfield. Why, when we know that playing with tempo is so effective, do we struggle find any with regularity?

The bursts of speed and movement we've shown in flashes in the first half has, unsurprisingly, seen us create chances.

Just show a bit of heart, please. Little wonder the atmosphere is so flat, an early kick-off, coupled with pedestrian football, is going to do little to lift the crowd.

Mark_Barca · Nov 19, 2016

Honestly don't think it's a penalty, Souness is correct to an extent, Valencia puts his arm into Monreal's face.

Camy89 · Nov 19, 2016

Bruno8 said:
What is Pogba's best position honetsly. He is almost always the weakest link in the midfield

Rashford Mata Valencia and Carrick have been very good.

We sitting too deep and slow to react when we win balls

Are you watching the game? Pogba has been influential in creating some of our chances?

Stop trying to be fashionable and hating on Pogba, he's playing well.

prateik · Nov 19, 2016

Damn.. Lawrenson doesnt think it was a pen.

pauldyson1uk · Nov 19, 2016

watching it for 3rd and 4th time, I am changing my mind , agree with Giggs

DomesticTadpole · Nov 19, 2016

13:23SAMUEL LUCKHURST
Non decisions
Andre Marriner was booed as he headed down the tunnel and it was deserved.

United have suffered some terrible non-decisions against them this season: Bravo on Rooney, the foul on Martial at Watford in the build-up to their goal, Luiz’s challenge on Fellaini, the non-penalty after Flanagan clipped Darmian and now today’s.

Mourinho might be talking about another ‘campaign’ later.

bosnian_red · Nov 19, 2016

Came alive more in the last 15 mins. Was tight in the opening 30. We look much better then them though, their only danger men are sanchez and ozil obviously. Martial I'd like to get more involved as he can destroy Jenkinson if he is on it. Pen was a pen, you cant put your arm across someone, though a bit soft as Valencia was going down easily. We need to push on though. A win here will be a huge encouragement to us.

saivet · Nov 19, 2016

Borderline penalty for me. Not sure it's as clearcut as many on here making out.

Raees · Nov 19, 2016

Even if we go on to lose this.. it is clear that Jose knows what he is doing and that this team is progressing. Clear to see. We played some excellent football in that first half. Worried about Martial though, he seems so subdued.. yet still looks a threat.

Tom Van Persie · Nov 19, 2016

DomesticTadpole said:
13:23SAMUEL LUCKHURST
Non decisions
Andre Marriner was booed as he headed down the tunnel and it was deserved.

United have suffered some terrible non-decisions against them this season: Bravo on Rooney, the foul on Martial at Watford in the build-up to their goal, Luiz’s challenge on Fellaini, the non-penalty after Flanagan clipped Darmian and now today’s.

Mourinho might be talking about another ‘campaign’ later.

Spot on.

SqueakyWeasel · Nov 19, 2016

Why does everyone keep mentioning Tony's strength?

When Costa goes over no-one says "it was soft, he has the muscles to stay on his feet … no pen is a fair call!"

Bogart-er · Nov 19, 2016

Marcelinho87 said:
Or maybe our defensive players are doing well? I know it's not fashionable to praise Rojo and co but credit where it's due.

Yeah defensively you guys have done well but its not necessarily down to the back four. It's more down to better organization, maintaining shape etc and that comes from all over the pitch not just back 4.

Berbaclass · Nov 19, 2016

Feck off Souness :houllier:

Trizy · Nov 19, 2016

SqueakyWeasel said:
Here we go … Sourness will say United are being overly aggressive. And it's not good football because the right team aren't winning!

Yet if we weren't as adventurous we'd be ''parking the bus'' ... there's no pleasing that ABU cnut.

Hugh Jass · Nov 19, 2016

Young for Darmian before he gets sent off.

Gasolin · Nov 19, 2016

It's a pity that United didn't get a goal in the first half...

I wonder if the goal would be possible but that Arsenal team can be beaten in my opinion.

pauldyson1uk · Nov 19, 2016

SqueakyWeasel said:
Here we go … Sourness will say United are being overly aggressive. And it's not good football because the right team aren't winning!

He is a dickhead, I was struggling to see what he was on about , forearm smash !!!

Gasolin · Nov 19, 2016

Hugh Jass said:
Young for Darmian before he gets sent off.

Blind then no?

Adam-Utd · Nov 19, 2016

Jacko21 said:
I feel more and more apathy for this squad with each passing game. The lack of energy, conviction, desire is so demoralising.

Why do we take so long to do things? 30 seconds for a goal kick, twenty seconds for a thrown in, too slow to win the 50/50s... amble around in midfield. Why, when we know that playing with tempo is so effective, do we struggle find any with regularity?

The bursts of speed and movement we've shown in flashes in the first half has, unsurprisingly, seen us create chances.

Just show a bit of heart, please. Little wonder the atmosphere is so flat, an early kick-off, coupled with pedestrian football, is going to do little to lift the crowd.

The fitness of the squad is clearly low. I think that pre season in china really did a number on us personally, we can't keep up any intensity at all.

paulscholes18 · Nov 19, 2016

prateik said:
Damn.. Lawrenson doesnt think it was a pen.

So 2 ex Liverpool players, ex Arsenal player didn't think it was a pen. Ex United player think it was

Xeno · Nov 19, 2016

Raees said:
Even if we go on to lose this.. it is clear that Jose knows what he is doing and that this team is progressing. Clear to see. We played some excellent football in that first half. Worried about Martial though, he seems so subdued.. yet still looks a threat.

I'm a big fan, but I'd trade with PSG for Marco in a second.

El Zoido · Nov 19, 2016

He's put his arm across him. Doesn't matter if it was a weak block, he's still obstructing the player and preventing him from reaching the ball. Has to be a penalty.

izec · Nov 19, 2016

It is not a natural position. It is actually braindead the way Monreal defended. If that was Rojo or Jones, they would get slaughtered. You cant just defend the way he did with his arm and not expect a penalty.

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