Manchester United 1:1 Arsenal

George Owen · May 15, 2015

Our record with Jones in midfield is pretty positive. He wont be a pleasure to the eyes, but get the job done.

Anyway, i doubt LVG will play him there... he clearly prefers him at the back. And i agree... Blind can do a job in midfield, better than our replacements CB can do the job Phil Jones do back there.

Red Hand Devil · May 15, 2015

Jayvin said:
Di Maria is injured isn't he?

Nah - he's just a bit shit this season..

Red Hand Devil · May 15, 2015

ggzii said:
Oh you were being sarcastic, sorry its hard to tell on the internet, I get you now though

Just a bitta craic is all..

Still not his biggest fan though!

Mustafa Ahmed · May 15, 2015

Pexbo said:
Truly mental.

3rdCarter said:
Explain.

Red Hand Devil said:
Minefield, more like..

gooDevil said:
It's interesting to me that Jones has not been tried once in midfield for all of LVGs tinkering.

I don't think he sees that happening, anyway. When i watch him i don't think, "Get that guy into midfield" to be honest.

He's shown he can be effective there, it's certainly not 'mental' to like him as a midfielder, imho.

ggzii said:
Midfield is a highly technical area about creating space, closing spaces, making hard passes, timing tackles and knowing when to sit deep and when to drive forward. Something Jones has zero idea how to do, as evident by his "lunge into every tackle no matter what" attitude.

Well, without getting overly technical. Most people say Blind/Herrera are too dynamic with the ball to play that 'Carrick' role in the DM position, and so I thought Jones would be the best player to play in that position. He's a robust guy. Seen him play fabulously in midfield on more than one occasion, including a couple of games in Moyes' tenure. He has that desire to go and get the ball for us, much like Fletcher or Scholes once did, but obviously being a central defender he is a better tackler than the two of them combined.

There is no doubt he's a nervy guy, but having two CB's behind him WILL make him a better player. Call me crazy but I think he has a very underrated passing range, genuinely. Think he's about ten leagues better than Chris Smalling on the ball.

Very similar to Mascherano IMO. Think he will do well if given the job, and will keep the system compact just like LVG wants.

And just to justify myself even more, I was watching the highlights of the 11/12 season, and was very impressed with the job Jones did in the opposition half.

gooDevil · May 15, 2015

De Gea
Valencia Smalling Jones Rojo
Blind
Herrera diMaria
Mata Wilson Young

Devil may care · May 15, 2015

I am not a fan of the 3-5-2 but if Rojo can't start as LB I'd like to see us opt for this.

Red Hand Devil · May 15, 2015

Mustafa Ahmed said:
Well, without getting overly technical. Most people say Blind/Herrera are too dynamic with the ball to play that 'Carrick' role in the DM position, and so I thought Jones would be the best player to play in that position. He's a robust guy. Seen him play fabulously in midfield on more than one occasion, including a couple of games in Moyes' tenure. He has that desire to go and get the ball for us, much like Fletcher or Scholes once did, but obviously being a central defender he is a better tackler than the two of them combined.

There is no doubt he's a nervy guy, but having two CB's behind him WILL make him a better player. Call me crazy but I think he has a very underrated passing range, genuinely. Think he's about ten leagues better than Chris Smalling on the ball.

Very similar to Mascherano IMO. Think he will do well if given the job, and will keep the system compact just like LVG wants.

And just to justify myself even more, I was watching the highlights of the 11/12 season, and was very impressed with the job Jones did in the opposition half.

Was he out with a spade or a rake fixing up the pitch?

Mustafa Ahmed · May 15, 2015

Red Hand Devil said:
Was he out with a spade or a rake fixing up the pitch?

Jayvin · May 15, 2015

Red Hand Devil said:
Nah - he's just a bit shit this season..

No I mean he's injured so won't play this game. Was replying to the guy who put him in his team. I put it in the form of a question so I wouldn't come across as condescending.

Red Hand Devil · May 15, 2015

Mustafa Ahmed said:

Red Hand Devil · May 15, 2015

Jayvin said:
No I mean he's injured so won't play this game. Was replying to the guy who put him in his team. I put it in the form of a question so I wouldn't come across as condescending.

Oh, i knew what you meant Jay

Sorry, i was just messing around & makin light of Di Maria bein a bit shit this season - like someone playin with injuries.. (broken ankles in his case :rolleyes:

)

ChaddyP · May 15, 2015

Mustafa Ahmed said:
Well, without getting overly technical. Most people say Blind/Herrera are too dynamic with the ball to play that 'Carrick' role in the DM position, and so I thought Jones would be the best player to play in that position. He's a robust guy. Seen him play fabulously in midfield on more than one occasion, including a couple of games in Moyes' tenure. He has that desire to go and get the ball for us, much like Fletcher or Scholes once did, but obviously being a central defender he is a better tackler than the two of them combined.

There is no doubt he's a nervy guy, but having two CB's behind him WILL make him a better player. Call me crazy but I think he has a very underrated passing range, genuinely. Think he's about ten leagues better than Chris Smalling on the ball.

Very similar to Mascherano IMO. Think he will do well if given the job, and will keep the system compact just like LVG wants.

And just to justify myself even more, I was watching the highlights of the 11/12 season, and was very impressed with the job Jones did in the opposition half.

Surely a wum :lol:

Adisa · May 15, 2015

Valdes should start

Devil may care · May 15, 2015

Red Hand Devil said:
Was he out with a spade or a rake fixing up the pitch?

soapythecat · May 15, 2015

Start Valdes in goal. Clearly, he was bought in to cover DDG when he goes, so may as well put him in now. If DDG isn't signing a new contract, why give him an OT farewell?

Jayvin · May 15, 2015

Red Hand Devil said:
Oh, i knew what you meant Jay

Sorry, i was just messing around & makin light of Di Maria bein a bit shit this season - like someone playin with injuries.. (broken ankles in his case )

Oh ok fair enough, definitely agree with you that he's been underwhelming this season. Hopefully next season we see more of the form he showed early on this season!

Tribec · May 15, 2015

Someone should have a quiet word with Di Maria before the game starts, don't go hassling the 4th official if or when you are about to come on. I'm not sure Michael Oliver would take to kindly to any shirt pulling telling him his job once more. Mike Dean to take charge, he's not bad, bit inconsistent, but he's no worse than most.

It's looking like it will be a very young bench with the exception of Valdes I suspect.

Kostur · May 15, 2015

soapythecat said:
Start Valdes in goal. Clearly, he was bought in to cover DDG when he goes, so may as well put him in now. If DDG isn't signing a new contract, why give him an OT farewell?

Don't know, maybe to have somebody in goal whose last competitive game was not 100 years ago, hasn't had a pretty bad injury and is a far, far better keeper perhaps?

Red Hand Devil · May 15, 2015

soapythecat said:
Start Valdes in goal. Clearly, he was bought in to cover DDG when he goes, so may as well put him in now. If DDG isn't signing a new contract, why give him an OT farewell?

As far as we know - our Dave is still undecided, or confused as a blind lesbien in fish shop..

Imagine he was edging towards staying & then he gets benched on Sunday? Jesus - the riots in Manchester on Sunday would be of Northern Irish standard..

Kostur said:
Don't know, maybe to have somebody in goal whose last competitive game was not 100 years ago, hasn't had a pretty bad injury and is a far, far better keeper perhaps?

John "The Cat" O'Shea, left the club years ago man

BringNaniBack · May 15, 2015

Just had a little peak on an Arsenal forum to see their recent opinion of us and on the game. I saw this "DM reporting de Gea has agreed personal terms with Madrid. Silly little feeder club Yanited are. Hope we brush them aside like they were Hull or some other lower table filth."

Oh please spank these and put them back in their hole just so they know we are back and they will be back to playing for their 4th place trophy again next season.

The Purist · May 16, 2015

BringNaniBack said:
Just had a little peak on an Arsenal forum to see their recent opinion of us and on the game. I saw this "DM reporting de Gea has agreed personal terms with Madrid. Silly little feeder club Yanited are. Hope we brush them aside like they were Hull or some other lower table filth."

Oh please spank these and put them back in their hole just so they know we are back and they will be back to playing for their 4th place trophy again next season.

To be fair, it will be nice to be there for David De Gea's last game at Old Trafford

Americano · May 16, 2015

This club needs to get serious about goalkeeper preparation for next season, starting with THIS match. We have waited long enough!

For that reason, I hope that everyone at Old Trafford whistles at De Gea to help get him ready for next year at Madrid.

SirFergie · May 16, 2015

DDG

Valencia
Smalling
Jones
Rojo

Blind

Mata
Herrera
Fellaini
Young

RvP

Jaxa · May 16, 2015

De Gea
Valencia Smalling Jones Rojo
Blind
Herrera Fellaini
Mata RVP Young

Probably what I expect to be honest

El-Manos · May 16, 2015

Di Maria, Januzaj and Pereira should start.

Gerald G · May 16, 2015

El-Manos said:
Di Maria, Januzaj and Pereira should start.

Pereira is away with Brazil's U20s.

Di Maria's angel · May 16, 2015

Is Rooney injured?

On that note, who else is out?

bucky · May 16, 2015

Captain Hindsight said:
Is Rooney injured?

On that note, who else is out?

Carrick, Shaw

Di Maria's angel · May 16, 2015

bucky said:
Carrick, Shaw

Thanks.

Not that bad, I guess.

George Beast · May 16, 2015

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Gerald G · May 16, 2015

De Gea
Valencia-Jones-Smalling-Rojo
Blind
Herrera-Fellaini
Mata-Falcao-Young

subs: Valdes, Evans, McNair, Januzaj, Di Maria, van Persie, Wilson

I want Di Maria to start but not sure where.

Kag · May 16, 2015

Gerald G said:
De Gea
Valencia-Jones-Smalling-Rojo
Blind
Herrera-Fellaini
Mata-Falcao-Young

subs: Valdes, Evans, McNair, Januzaj, Di Maria, van Persie, Wilson

I want Di Maria to start but not sure where.

If Rojo is deemed fit to play then you would expect that to be the line up.

Devil may care · May 16, 2015

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I hope whichever formation we play we don't play both him and RvP.

MyOnlySolskjaer · May 16, 2015

Horrible how he's picked ahead of Wilson.

LARulz · May 16, 2015

BringNaniBack said:
Just had a little peak on an Arsenal forum to see their recent opinion of us and on the game. I saw this "DM reporting de Gea has agreed personal terms with Madrid. Silly little feeder club Yanited are. Hope we brush them aside like they were Hull or some other lower table filth."

Oh please spank these and put them back in their hole just so they know we are back and they will be back to playing for their 4th place trophy again next season.

Arsenal fans calling another club a feeder club :lol:

bucky · May 16, 2015

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Baffling.

SirAF · May 16, 2015

LARulz said:
Arsenal fans calling another club a feeder club

Incredible :lol:

AtlMuppet · May 16, 2015

LARulz said:
Arsenal fans calling another club a feeder club

*whisper* Barcelona *whisper*

Sweet Square · May 16, 2015

bucky said:
Baffling.

He was pretty decent against Palace. But yeah was hoping that Wilson might get the nod after he destroyed City's U21 this week.

peterstorey · May 16, 2015

AtlMuppet said:
*whisper* Barcelona *whisper*

Barcelona have paid us £130M for has-beens, never-wases and coulda-beens. Real will have paid you £120M for 2 players who walk into a world XI.

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