Manchester United 1:0 FC Astana

paulscholes18 · Sep 15, 2019

Romero
Young Tuanzebe Jones Rojo
Fred Garner
Chong Gomes James
Greenwood

Gerald G · Sep 15, 2019

Romero
Young--Tuanzebe--Jones--Rojo
Fred--Matic
Lingard--Gomes--Chong
Greenwood

subs: Grant; Lindelof, Williams; McTominay, Garner; Mata, Rashford

Mata will probably start instead of Gomes.

Van Piorsing · Sep 15, 2019

Would be a light in the tunnel to see the Gomes, Chong or Greenwood adding some goals. We need it like never before in the current squad situation.

Irwin99 · Sep 15, 2019

Will probably be a mix of senior and youth players. Might even see Matic again to build up his fitness, probably Fred, Lingard and Jones too. I hope the senior players treat it seriously and we see some good football.

SAFMUTD · Sep 15, 2019

Romero
Dalot Tuanzebe Jones Rojo
Fred Matic
Greenwood Mata James
Rashford

Subs: McTominnay, Gomes and Chong

King Andow · Sep 15, 2019

TwoSheds said:
Yeah, probably Young over AWB to save his injury I reckon but otherwise I'd love to see that team. Rashford up front again I reckon, try to build up his finishing confidence and keep Martial out until he's properly fit.

Agreed. Better not risk it with our best FB.

RedDevilRoshi · Sep 15, 2019

SAFMUTD said:
Romero
Dalot Tuanzebe Jones Rojo
Fred Matic
Greenwood Mata James
Rashford

Subs: McTominnay, Gomes and Chong

Unfortunately Dalot is still injured.

Amerifan · Sep 15, 2019

@ThinkTank@Cafe Thanks for the background. I hadn’t heard of the team prior to the draw.

Alabaster Codify7 · Sep 15, 2019

Don't know anything about FC Astana but I'll try and be optimistic. Expecting a mixture of youth and fringe players with the odd first teamer:

---------------------Romero----------------------
Young---------Jones-------Tuanzebe-------Rojo
---------------Fred---------Matic-----------------
----------------------Mata------------------------
Greenwood----------Rashford------------Chong

SUBS - Lingard (Chong), Garner (Matic), Pereira (Rashford)

Man United 2 - 0 FC Astana
Rashford, Mata.

SAFMUTD · Sep 15, 2019

RedDevilRoshi said:
Unfortunately Dalot is still injured.

Didnt knew that, I guess we will see Young or Wan Bissaka there.

starman · Sep 15, 2019

Romero
Tuanzebe Jones Rojo Young
Fred Matic
Mata
Chong Greenwood Gomes

jderbyshire · Sep 15, 2019

Romero
Young Tuanzebe Jones Williams
McTominay Fred
Greenwood Gomes James
Rashford

Garner and Chong to come on in the 2nd half.

Prediction: 5-0.

Carlsen19 · Sep 15, 2019

Might see Chong and Greenwood but I bet we don't see either of Garner or Gomes.

Beans · Sep 16, 2019

Romero
Young Tuanzebe Jones Rojo
Fred
Pereira Gomes
Lingard Greenwood Chong

Beans · Sep 16, 2019

Carlsen19 said:
Might see Chong and Greenwood but I bet we don't see either of Garner or Gomes.

We haven't yet, it's a good bet.

pocco · Sep 16, 2019

Carlsen19 said:
Might see Chong and Greenwood but I bet we don't see either of Garner or Gomes.

This place will riot if Gomes doesn't play. I think he'll start.

Feed Me · Sep 16, 2019

This is going to bugger our preparation for West Ham away on Sunday, which is a bloody tough game for us at the best of times. Play the kids.

Gambit · Sep 16, 2019

Personally I hope we just play all the kids, really couldn't care less about this competition.

Hernandez - BFA · Sep 16, 2019

As long as Tuanzebe, Gomes, Greenwood, Chong and Lingard start - I’m happy.

stu_1992 · Sep 16, 2019

Expect a good mix of squad players and youngsters for this. Would expect the likes of Romero, Jones, Tuanzebe, Fred etc to get their first start of the season. Greenwood will surely start, and it would be a great game to see him get his first senior goal (or hopefully goals). Hope to see at least Gomes and Chong too. Maybe even Garner.

Sassy Colin · Sep 16, 2019

No idea who we are going to play in this one.

Cassidy · Sep 16, 2019

Hernandez - BFA said:
As long as Tuanzebe, Gomes, Greenwood, Chong and Lingard start - I’m happy.

Why?

Camilo · Sep 16, 2019

Oh the glamour!!

backofthenet · Sep 16, 2019

I'd like to see Romero, AWB, Tuanzebe, Jones, Williams, Fred, Garner, Chong, Mata, Gomes, Greenwood. I reckon there is less chance than a chocolate fireguard being released unfortunately.

Chaky_Best · Sep 16, 2019

Probably field the second side considering our injured ones and the fact we are at home vs a weak side in a weak competition.

Romero

Young
Tuanzebe
Jones
Rojo

Matic
Fred

Chong
Mata
Lingard

Greenwood

SirAF · Sep 16, 2019

Gomes.

stubie · Sep 16, 2019

I'd go

Romero
Dalot
Tuanzebe
Lindelof
Young

McTominay
Perrira
Fred

James
Martial/Rashford
Lingard

Subs

Grant, Jones, Wan-Bissaka, Garner, Chong, Greenwood, Mata

joedirt87 · Sep 16, 2019

will be pissed if we play regular first teamers in this one.

Nickosaur · Sep 16, 2019

Please please please, I want starts for Tuanzebe, Gomes and Greenwood. That's all.

FerociousCorgis · Sep 16, 2019

Would be very perturbed to only see greenwood and tuanz as youngsters starting. Gomes HAS to start, think garner and chong need to start as well. Want to see at least those 4 and then can sprinkle in some veteran players who need fitness.

FerociousCorgis · Sep 16, 2019

stubie said:
I'd go

Romero
Dalot
Tuanzebe
Lindelof
Young

McTominay
Perrira
Fred

James
Martial/Rashford
Lingard

Subs

Grant, Jones, Wan-Bissaka, Garner, Chong, Greenwood, Mata

no gomes at all? Only tuanz as a youngster getting experience. Hard Pass

Mark Pawelek · Sep 16, 2019

Keep 1st team squad for Sunday away to West Ham. But have enough on bench to bring on should plan A fail.

------------- Romero
Williams --- Jones --- Tuanzebe --- Mitchell
------------- Garner --- Levitt ------------
------ Ramazani --- Gomes --- Chong ------
------------- Greenwood -------------

Bench: Kovar, WanBissaka, Rojo, McTominay, Fred, Rashford, James

NickSantigo · Sep 16, 2019

ThinkTank@Cafe said:
As I am a Kazakh, I feel obliged to give a cultural perspective on Astana. If you are interested only in football assessment, just skip the post.

I don't follow Kazakh football closely: it's a waste of time. With average salary of $250 a month, Kazakhs have more worries than football. Professional football in Kazakhstan exists only because the Governors finance the regional clubs and the Republic pays for NT. Kazakh Premier League is a regions vanity fair. Since the oil prices plummeted, the financing of the clubs was drastically reduced and the level of the League dropped.

Astana is by far the biggest club in Kazakhstan. Its yearly budget is around $45 million US dollar. FC Astana is a part of Astana Sports Holding financed by Samruk-Kazyna, a National Wealth Fund. The most successful member of Astana Sports group is Astana Cycling which a major team in the world Cycling.

Astana was established in 2008 as Lokomotiv under patronage of then the President's youngest daughter's husband Daniyar Hasenov who was the club president and player (!!!). This little detail gives an insight of why Sasha Baron Cohen chose to name his fantasy country "Kazakhstan". Kazakhstan, being a large and open country, is relatively known in the world (unlike, say, Turkmenistan), and has a quite extravagant elite.

Kazakhstan society, especially in big cities like Almaty and the capital Astana (renamed to Nur-Sultan after an ageing and mentally sick dictator but Kazakhs don't accept "Nur-Sultan" in daily life) are a modern society. Foreigners love Almaty located in the South at the Alatau mountains foothills. A beautiful city with all local pleasures and international infrastructure with Starbuckses, Ritzes, and Saks Fifth Avenues of the developed world.

However, our elite grouped around Nazarbayev family, looks like they came right from the Middle Ages. The political situation is changing, and the regime is counting months to its inevitable fall.

Since Lokomotiv became Astana in 2011, the club has won 5 League titles, went to Europe cup 1/16 play offs, and participated in CL Group stages. It's a pretty strong side with a lot of experienced foreign players and the best national talents. Kazakh players are of a respectable quality. Kazakh NT has become quite an opponent for European teams lately. We destroyed Scotland 3:0 in ongoing Euro qualifiers. The last match was against Russia in Kaliningrad, where Russia escaped a draw with a late goal. Kazakhstan is third in the Group behind Belgium and Russia and ahead of Scotland and Cyprus.

Astana is a good test for our youngsters. I personally would play a second team against them. However, the win will not be guaranteed. Astana is an experienced, disciplined, well organized and tactically sound mid-level European team.

Thanks for that interesting insight into
Astana

Gator Nate · Sep 16, 2019

Romero
Rojo - Tuanzebe - Jones - Williams
Garner - Matic
Lingard - Gomes - Chong
Greenwood

Bench: Mata, Fred, McTominay, James, Rashford, Maguire

I can see Ole starting Matic and subbing in Fred for EL games, then starting Fred and subbing Matic for PL games, when needed. The rest are backstops for anyone that can't go 90. Would be fun to see Rashy and James going in for the last 15 for mop-up duty against a tired defense. Cruel, but fun.

Can't wait for Dalot to be available again...

adexkola · Sep 16, 2019

ThinkTank@Cafe said:
As I am a Kazakh, I feel obliged to give a cultural perspective on Astana. If you are interested only in football assessment, just skip the post.

I don't follow Kazakh football closely: it's a waste of time. With average salary of $250 a month, Kazakhs have more worries than football. Professional football in Kazakhstan exists only because the Governors finance the regional clubs and the Republic pays for NT. Kazakh Premier League is a regions vanity fair. Since the oil prices plummeted, the financing of the clubs was drastically reduced and the level of the League dropped.

Astana is by far the biggest club in Kazakhstan. Its yearly budget is around $45 million US dollar. FC Astana is a part of Astana Sports Holding financed by Samruk-Kazyna, a National Wealth Fund. The most successful member of Astana Sports group is Astana Cycling which a major team in the world Cycling.

Astana was established in 2008 as Lokomotiv under patronage of then the President's youngest daughter's husband Daniyar Hasenov who was the club president and player (!!!). This little detail gives an insight of why Sasha Baron Cohen chose to name his fantasy country "Kazakhstan". Kazakhstan, being a large and open country, is relatively known in the world (unlike, say, Turkmenistan), and has a quite extravagant elite.

Kazakhstan society, especially in big cities like Almaty and the capital Astana (renamed to Nur-Sultan after an ageing and mentally sick dictator but Kazakhs don't accept "Nur-Sultan" in daily life) are a modern society. Foreigners love Almaty located in the South at the Alatau mountains foothills. A beautiful city with all local pleasures and international infrastructure with Starbuckses, Ritzes, and Saks Fifth Avenues of the developed world.

However, our elite grouped around Nazarbayev family, looks like they came right from the Middle Ages. The political situation is changing, and the regime is counting months to its inevitable fall.

Since Lokomotiv became Astana in 2011, the club has won 5 League titles, went to Europe cup 1/16 play offs, and participated in CL Group stages. It's a pretty strong side with a lot of experienced foreign players and the best national talents. Kazakh players are of a respectable quality. Kazakh NT has become quite an opponent for European teams lately. We destroyed Scotland 3:0 in ongoing Euro qualifiers. The last match was against Russia in Kaliningrad, where Russia escaped a draw with a late goal. Kazakhstan is third in the Group behind Belgium and Russia and ahead of Scotland and Cyprus.

Astana is a good test for our youngsters. I personally would play a second team against them. However, the win will not be guaranteed. Astana is an experienced, disciplined, well organized and tactically sound mid-level European team.

Thanks for the breakdown.

Smores · Sep 16, 2019

Nickosaur said:
Please please please, I want starts for Tuanzebe, Gomes and Greenwood. That's all.

Those would be the 3 I'd expect to see start. No excuses for him if he can't manage to field a few of our young talents here

AneRu · Sep 16, 2019

I think the EL will be a boon for our fringe players and youth team players looking to make a breakthrough. The only player, who can be a starter, who should play is Fred. The likes of Jones, Tuanzebe, Gomes and Greenwood should feature prominently at least until our progression to the next round is under threat. This, in turn, ought to prepare squad players for roles in the first team should they be needed.

King Andow · Sep 16, 2019

Gator Nate said:
Romero
Rojo - Tuanzebe - Jones - Williams
Garner - Matic
Lingard - Gomes - Chong
Greenwood

Bench: Mata, Fred, McTominay, James, Rashford, Maguire

I can see Ole starting Matic and subbing in Fred for EL games, then starting Fred and subbing Matic for PL games, when needed. The rest are backstops for anyone that can't go 90. Would be fun to see Rashy and James going in for the last 15 for mop-up duty against a tired defense. Cruel, but fun.

Can't wait for Dalot to be available again...

Rojo at RB? The duo with JLingz on that side

Florida Man · Sep 16, 2019

Give me Gomes or give me death.

JJ12 · Sep 16, 2019

Gambit said:
Personally I hope we just play all the kids, really couldn't care less about this competition.

When it's a route to CL it's going to be important for us.

Unfortunately.

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